It’s interesting, as dairy fats are supposed to be a source of CLA, which supposedly helps you lose fat and gain muscle. I don’t get how it’s bad, either. It’s also interesting that flax oil in a low fat diet helps to decrease T levels, yet this is held as a super-healthy fat. I’ve never heard of dairy fat doing anything like that. Also, I was reading some T-Mag articles and it says dietary sources of calcium help in fat loss. So milk has both CLA and calcium. Seems like it would be a great combination to me.
BTW, what do you guys make of new studies showing high flax consumption isassociated with increased chances of prostate cancer? (Probably due to the fact that it’s highly susceptible to oxidation?). I wonder what the T-mag gurus say about that, too…
In the case of flax oil oxidation, it would make sense to take it with a protective saturated fat (such as coconut oil), along with antioxidants such as vitamin C or E. The same applies to fish oil, but cod liver oil seems to be better protected because of the vitamin D acting as an antioxidant.
I also don’t get why saturated fat is thought to be evil when it’s polyunsaturated fats that make up most of artery blockages.
Paul, I didn’t mean to imply something was wrong with wanting the answer, but I’m just pointing out that this is often what happens in all scientific sorts of endeavors. Like Relativity seemingly being it until Quantum came along and contradicted it, but seemed just as right. Those sorts of things. Sometimes answers just aren’t that easy to come by or take a lot of probing was the point, I guess.
I never said it was high in calcium. It IS, however, a dietary source of calcium (1 cup yielding about 125 mg of calcium, which is 12.5% of the RDA). And dietary sources of calcium were said to aid in fat loss.
I will not contribute on which side of the this debate I agree with (don’t really care). However I would like to say something in response to some of the comments Brent and Carson have made about there being soo much contradiction in fitness/nutrition. Science is an indefinite thing. No theorey even when it becomes a law is infinitesimally correct, there will always be some possibility of it being disproven with another possible circumstance. NOW, add that to the fact that this industry is still relatively new and research is somewhat lacking. Now before I point the finger at anyone, I’ll say that I might not have understood your comments/complaints. The contributors here IMO are mentors to me and just like any mentor in school some I agree with and some I don’t, and unless I myself have contributed some sort of work that on par with their contributions (and recognized as being so) I would simply respect their veiws.
People, even when you do find something that works for you, guess what? It ain’t gonna work forever. Stay around long enough in this game (10-15 years +) and your body will change. You must therefore change with it.
The strategy here should be: listen to and read the experts. Develop enough knowledge that you can separate the real BS from the stuff that might actually be helpful. Try the latter out for yourself. Find what works and doesn’t work for your body at present. That’s it. Change as necessary when you stop getting results.
If you’re a PT or something similar, you’ll need to also find out what works for others. But failing that, all you really need to worry about it yourself. And that’s not all that difficult.
I went through a little project with a glucose monitor a while back. Looking back at my results, coincidence that I happen to test both versions of cottage cheese.
The response reading was identical in two different cases.
I drink WHOLE milk. I work at a grocery store. I have never drank skim, save chocolate. I pick of a crate of whole, and it feels like milk. I pick up a crate of skim and it reminds me of water. When whole spills, it pools like milk. Skim runs like water. I have no desire to drink skim. I drink whole. The fat aint hurting me, I am at 8% body fat.
