I saw those pictures of your son. I’m sure he could build one in your garage.
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I agree, we need to investigate everything, and that’s so far what’s happening. However it does directly contradict other research currently out there. My point was that people can’t just assume it’s correct because they like the conclusions. Modeling is tricky, notoriously so. The model is only as good as it’s assumptions, and my belief (and others) is that it’s assumptions are probably not sound.
Yes it was, however if what the authors are saying is true, then we should expect that the “seasonal surge” of flu-like /pneumonia cases should be about like other bad years. In other words, slightly higher than the curve but not off the charts. I don’t think this lines up in other countries. Obviously other countries can have different rates of exposure, however as a general trend we should see most of them with relatively similar rates. This is not what I see when I look at the data. I think an epidemiologist would probably be a better source for this, or a statistics guy like AG. However I do have enough experience with these matters to understand what other data should be saying if this is the likely result.
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He’s good, but not that good. 
In fact, I got laughed out of Parker-Hannefin’s electro mechanical division for my rudimentary skills and ignorance of standards and practices.
The assemblers that built them for the med device company I worked for started at $14.50/hr and required a HS diploma. They are actually some of our higher paid assemblers.
Other med devices are assembled by people making less than $1/hr in other countries.
The engineer that designs the stuff is highly skilled, the assembler, not so much. It is part of why the engineers have to be so skilled (they need to design stuff any idiot can put together).
You botch one and then tell me all about it.
Pay has nothing to do with skill.
You would be shocked by how many med devices don’t work right out of the box. They also fail in use all the time (I used to deal with this stuff all the time).
I would have a hard time classifying the assemblers as skilled. They do very little thinking. It is a boring job. The manufacturing technicians are pretty skilled. I just don’t think putting the same things together everyday requires that much skill.
I still respect these workers a lot. I would get fired if I had to operate in their working conditions. They got shit pay, could not show up more than 3 minutes past 7am. Do that 3 times in a year and you get a serious warning. Do it 6 times and you are fired. That policy in MN, where traffic on any given winter day might be 2X as long as the day before.
Not only that, but they are not supposed to talk while working. It is brutal to assemble components together for 8 hours in silence. The get written up for BS that I do every day (what I am doing now as I write this).
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Not unless it was a pacemaker. 
No, I’m somewhat familiar with the qa/qc in electromechanical assembly. I’ve done automated and robotic welding systems repair and custom design and builds, and manufacturing of other more critical industrial items.
So you guys put out life support devices that are broken or malfunction right out of the box?
That can’t be the standard. I know that they will break down in use (seen it on machines I was connected to) but for real, right off the assembly line?
That’s shameful.
The ventilators and anesthesia machines were generally good and reliable (We were having a lot of failures due to suppliers not making parts correctly about 25% were failing out of the box, we went to 100% testing after discovering the issue). BTW, every big med device (Medtronic, Boston, Abbot) all have items that don’t work out of the box.
We have statistical procedures to classify risks of different failures. If a risk can be catastrophic (lose of life), a lot more controls have to be in place.
People seem to think med device is cutting edge stuff. It is a lot of early 2000s tech.
I guess I’m one of them. Although I don’t think it’s super cutting edge, I have the impression that it’s manufacturing has to meet certain minimum standards and guidelines, and that they change based on risk.
Some stuff I’ve done required 100% x-ray examination/testing (energy systems).
But back to the demand for these ventilators.
Could any manufacturer just snap their fingers and guarantee delivery of, say 50 per hospital, nation wide or (since the answer is already no) worldwide in time to meet the general publics expectations of already having them? Because people do seem to think that hospitals world wide should each have millions of dollars of working equipment at the ready, just in case.
If so, how much do you think that would cost? Just a spitball type estimate?
Ford is apparently using seat cooling fans as a starting point… interesting but not sure how much you can speed up testing and development of this stuff (let alone all the molding and tooling equipment setup). There’s a hell of a lot of liability in making this kind of equipment, it seems like it’d take some time. If I get hit hard with this thing I’d feel better with a Toyota ventilator but probably can’t be picky. If I end up with a fiat ventilator I’ll go home and take my chances. Maybe with the car companies going at this there will be opportunities for smaller, turbo charged ventilators. Patient A’s exhale spools up a turbo that boosts patient B’s inhale.
I want that Tacoma ventilator.
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For any top gear fans, best option would be the Toyota hilux ventilator.
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Not bad it only took you what 50 posts to share this? We assume that because you type TDS a lot and never criticize him. It would seem you’re not very logically consistent in your feelings. For instance anything Obama did or didn’t do is all bad. Hell it’s even part of the reason Trump shouldn’t be criticized.
I’m sure in your personal life you’re consistent and talking equally about the blame for both. It’s just when you post on this forum you never do.
Spinners bro.
I want one with spinners.
I have some smart friends.
Also, day 10 of pub lockdown, Ireland has developed an anti-virus robot that uses UV rays.
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So a lot of it comes down the the class of med device. Stuff like stents, pacemakers have far different requirements than a syringe. The company I worked for made stuff the was in between the two mostly (class II devices).
Usually the cutting edge stuff is done by startups and the big guys buy the technology. Many startups have a goal of getting bought out, as registering a new technology is a huge cost and risk.
No.
To go very fast, they could require med device companies that make the ventilators to supply all the parts, and instructions, and have some of the manufacturing techs and engineers help a company like Ford get started. If Ford is going to make it’s own ventilator, we will get them in about 3 years if they are fast.
Well, I have done design work on a hospital infusion pump. Was a 25 million dollar RND project, and we are set up to make around 10K pumps a year. The 25 million does not include the cost of materials to build the pumps just the design and testing. The cost of making say 200K pumps with the materials and the RND would be somewhere around a quarter billion as an estimate ($1000 in material and labor per pump, then the RND costs).
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Student loan help, higher minimum wage, increased spending on education, better access to healthcare for people in poverty and other things like that are socialism and we absolutely can not afford to spend a dime more on any of that shit. What you wanna be Venezuela?!? We can barely afford 30 billion for farmers.
We gotta hold that money back to bailout big business should a crisis hit. That’s just capitalism 101. Gotta be prepared.
Robot?! Fuck that shit they will put us all out of jobs and then take over the world with their superior minds. Do whatever you can to destroy that robot and save humanity.
You’re our last hope and will be viewed as a hero. I mean not in America come on that’s just reserved for us, but I’m sure the people around you will be thankful. We may not even invade your country although I do believe we still should because of that whole burning the White House down thing.
Never forget!
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My mate developed it, so I can get up close to smash it.
He let slip some of their early results in Irish hospitals. At 1-2 meters every surface was sterilised. This thing is also cheaper than commercial options that exist.
Edit: And that distance is a hospital test, not a lab test. Coronavirus aside, this thing could save thousands of lives from bugs that exist in hospitals.
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I edited in some bullshit. Please take a picture of the destroyed robot. Gonna have to take your mate out as well with those kind of ideas. Painful but necessary