Coronavirus - What Happened?

Great Depression unemployment rate was 25% so this is going to be fun.

On the flipside, in the aftermath of the Black Death wages for skilled craftsmen tripled, the largest relative jump in the last 2000 years.

Har har. Very droll. I hope you’ll forgive my imprecision in language in future :joy:

If I ever open my own brewery, you’ll have a job.

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The Black Death has nothing on the CoronaVirus. Nothing.

The aftermath of this is going to be worse than the Great Depression. Much worse.

NYC needs HELP!!!

Assuming you can help me get the requisite visa, I’ll gladly take you up on it.

That’s a bold claim. I’m not saying we have the data to say it won’t be, but it’s a bold claim nonetheless.

Your capacity for optimism is endless, my friend :rofl:

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Doesn’t the Governor control the National Guard? Why doesn’t he activate the NY Guard?

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Already did.

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If we reach unemployment to rival the 30s, I fear that will be the end of the Republic. We handed over a lot of our liberty during the great depression and the current population is not what i consider resolute in comparison.

They may surprise you. Mind you, given that the orcs are still shooting one another in London, I’m inclined to agree with you.

Trump’s claims of a treatment have inspired some overdoses:

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Impossible to know now with this thing but a massive difference in how bad it’s going to be is time. No doubt this is going to suck ass but that took forever to see unemployment tick down. By comparison the Great Recession started to see upticks in hiring levels much quicker.

Granted the great recessions unemployment never got as high as the depression, but I think we are much more poised in modern times to recover quicker from high unemployment than then. I think comparing the two simply off how high unemployment gets is going to scare a lot of people, but we don’t necessarily have reason to think that the time frame for recovery will be as long as then.

Even higher unemployment numbers I don’t think is a sign of sure doom. And I don’t say that to underestimate the worst case scenarios we can all float out with this. We’re going to see insane unemployment numbers if no one moves for a few months and I’d still gamble on it being a shorter time frame.

Depending on how you define the end I’d take that bet with zero hesitation. Humans are resilient and Americans for all our flaws have stood up to many challenges before.

If the end is we’re going to lose certain freedoms than I would agree. But we’ve lost certain freedoms since the beginning. And for a lot of people those changes were good.

This is a pretty good place to be right now and it will be that way in the future.

Have no fear, then. Not that unemployment will never reach that level again, but you fear the loss of something no one on this site ever knew.

Americans couldn’t stand those changes during the Great Depression and immediately stood up and said no way will we let this guy win election more than a few more times. Although I am still mad he only let Kansas’s Alf Landon get 8 electoral votes.

I’ve been going back in my mind a lot about your comment about shovels in regards to helping people out. I actually told my team something along those lines in my weekly Sunday night week prep e-mail so I might owe you some compensation. Like I said I’m lucky that I can be on the front lines in a sense of helping families in need during this. Not front lines like doctors, nurses, first responders/etc but somewhere!

My grandpa (passed away about 9 years ago) was a WW2 vet and depression era kid. He didn’t say a whole lot but your comment made me think about an experience. When I was probably 18 or 19 (and absolutely obsessed with lifting and nutrition) he was outside working. For the life of me I can’t remember what he was working on because he was always working on something. I remember walking out and he looked at me and said ā€œwhat’s the point of working all those muscles if you won’t help me with this?ā€

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I’m not going to call it ā€œracistā€ since it is an accurate term when used in the context of geography. And the CCP policies and their officials did fuck it up from the start. This isn’t defensible. Dissing China, as in the people running the country, is warranted. Calling for an international inquiry with the possibility of reparations wouldn’t be unreasonable when this shit is over.

However, the problem with the use and popularization of the term will result in violent acts of racism even against citizens and permanent residents of the Chinese race in countries outside of China, not that it’s not already happening already. When the numbers go up in places like Indonesia and Malaysia, for example, lots of Chinese there are going to be in trouble to say the least.

So, on the political end, the CCP has pissed, and is continually pissing everyone off with their nonsense. But Chinese people around the world are not the CCP. They should not have to take collective responsibility for this.

Unless we’re all thinking like communists now.

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