Yes, but jokingly and with respect. I goof off more often than not, and appreciate a good insult every now and then even though mine can sometimes be a little dull and crude.
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No offense taken, you really made me smile. Dont be too harsh on yourself, every insult counts! Just be happy, that your language is great for cursing and insulting. The english use of the word āfuckā is possibly one of mankinds greatest inventions.
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As a man that hales from a long line of Irish and Scotts I like to think that if language was an art form Iād be in jail for vandalism.
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That is the problem, but if part of it collapses then the risk is that the rest will suffer as well.
You guys are into eugenics? What is going on here?
Yes, my mistake. How about ācases resulting in deathā?
I never said that, people read things I said and misinterpreted it that way. You are just the latest one.
Would a major economic collapse potentially lead to a situation where a lot of people die? This isnāt a black and white issue where one answer is unquestionably right. I already addressed this multiple times.
You sound real bright.
Again, you can only listen to experts if you donāt know enough yourself. Everything I have seen in the news (regular mainstream news, not David Icke or Alex Jones) says that we are going to have major economic problems. Is there a better way to do things from that perspective? Maybe, or maybe we are just fucked one way or another. All I know is that Iām the kind of person who would rather weigh my options rather than blindly accept an unknown fate as inevitable.
Unnecessary items are one thing and we can do without those, but if food prices get out of control and people can barely eat anymore we will have major problems. See how Venezuela was doing alright and then as the economy fell apart it descended into chaos and crime? You donāt want to move in that direction. For things to work out in the future itās going to take some sacrifice from rich people and corporations, but do you really think many of them are willing to give up anything for the good of society?
Just be carefull not to sink to the level of a 4 year old child or people might make you president of the USA.
True but you and I donāt have that knowledge. Weāve both admitted it so we are forced to listen to people who know more about these things.
This is undeniable. Iām not sure anyone would say otherwise. And if they did they should be dismissed immediately.
As would I. You have had a lot of people who know far more than you in this area (I donāt mean that as a slight they know fare more than me) explain the reasons for the current thinking. Youāve acknowledged these. Short of a crystal ball we have no idea if this is the right move. When the majority of the smartest people in a field say we need to do this Iām going to listen to them. At least for the foreseeable future. Will I do the same in August if they still say so. Maybe not. Right now I have no problem working from home, fucking my wife, playing with my daughter, posting on t-nation. This aināt exactly what people went through in the Great Depression. The military dismissed people because they were malnourished and now they dismiss people because of abundance.
Yep. Iām not sure how pausing at this moment in time guarantees that happening though. Right now you have plenty of food options as you live in a very developed country. Youāre not worried enough to go in the woods foraging yet. Maybe we will at one point but we arenāt close to it.
Yes if the economy falls apart it would be bad. Which is precisely why some are saying take this action now. Because the economy is more at risk in scenario A than B.
Some would and some wouldnāt same as any other time. Iām donating my checks if I get them in the mail as I donāt need them and Iām far from a fat cat.
Weāre not in Mad Max world yet. Maybe we will be who knows. I canāt tell you not to be worried Iām worried myself and Iām generally very optimistic about humans. But I can say at this moment in time things are bad but we have a ton of room in the countries you and I reside in before crime and chaos are the order of the day. We are far less at risk of this than most people in the world.
Yeah I am not that bright but I know how to read studies and listen to experts.
āAgain, you can only listen to experts if you donāt know enough yourself.ā If you really think you know enough to stop listening to experts, and in such a complex field, you are even less intelligent than I thought you to be.
My point exactly, I was not implying that I know about economics or epidemics.
For now yes, there might be temporary shortages because of people hoarding and panic shopping but that should resolve itself in a few weeks at most. My concern is for the long term if the economic collapse ends up as bad as some say it could be.
True, I just have a bad feeling about this. Under normal circumstances, I follow nothing to do with economics or finance and I have never bought stocks, but when I heard how things were shutting down the first thing that popped into my head was that the economy was going to be fucked and that was before I even saw anything in the news about it. Then I read a bunch of stuff saying it was going to be even worse than I had imagined. Thatās just my perspective on this.
What you think means very little because you donāt even understand what I meant by that sentence, and you didnāt understand what I was talking about on other issues either. It would be better if you understood what my position is before trying to start an argument about it, especially since I already went through this with several people.
Iād joke about this but weāre in an era of political idiocy that does not preclude this from the realm of possibility.
A guy that doesnāt post here at this point ended up in a run off for a county position in the last election cycle when he wrote himself in as a joke.
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No doubt. I just think some are dismissing the potential economic collapse of not doing this. The economy is going to be significantly hurt for a period of time no matter what action is done tomorrow. But I donāt think we want to rush this at this point with what we know now. The cautious side in the present has the potential for far less economic pain than the less cautious one. Weāre pretty ok in the short term. Like I said weāre taking a timeout to go down two scores with the idea that we could be down 50 if we donāt call it.
No one faults you for this. No one has a good one.
Yeah you donāt need to follow stocks to realize people not consuming or working is bad. The economy will bounce back. It always does. Developed countries have been in worse situations and came back.
I just think weād both rather live in places where it didnāt have so far to bounce back from. And knowing that both sides are bound to lose in the short term give me the side with the least amount of risk. And even if it may not seem like it I think a lot of people have made strong arguments to you about why this action today is less risky. No one is pretending to know the future. People are just acting with the knowledge we have now.
Youāve probably posted this but how old are you?
Indonesiaās in trouble. 260 million population.
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All Slavic languages would like to have a word with you over this deeply insulting comment.
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- And yourself?
Re: surging US dollar - That is the opposite of what people have been predicting, so who knows how this will end up. But itās all relative, if everything else drops faster then whatever doesnāt will come out on top. Good for the US, but bad for the rest of the world.
Hereās some good news, if accurate - virus death rate may only be around 1.4%
Interesting:
add: will be keeping those pennies I find, in my pocket to play pocket poolā¦
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- Dollar would be (in theory) the last to crumble.
Another interesting thing I saw online last night:
Most people when asked what they would do with a day to left to live say spend time with their loved ones and tell their family and friends how much they mean to them. Also eat a bunch of junk food was mentioned but thatās another story.
Seems like plenty of time to do the first two even if some family will need to be video chat.
RE: mortality rate - so far, according to the CDC numbers, of those confirmed cases, this is inline with deaths in the US ā¦ itās about 1.4%
However, I donāt think weāve actually seen the spike in cases yetā¦
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So theyāll spend their last day doing what they do any other day? Got it.