Regardless of who is at fault or what partisan bickering may or may not have happened, I urge you guys to put your swords away in the new thread I will create shortly (partisan bickering is free to continue in this thread, though maybe everyone can take a deep breath and stop the slap fight about whether there actually is bickering in this thread). I’ll start there with a clean slate.
This IS good news @chris_ottawa.
The first evidence of there being a change is “flattening out” of new infection.
I certainly hope this is real since Wuhan is sort of the epicenter. As @pat said…information from China is often suspect.
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Because you are full of shit.
I am guessing some people have the wrong idea of what the symptoms are. They might assume they include diahrrea (sp?)
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I just read on CNN that in the US, cases have just gone up by 40%. that is alarming, and one wonders again how much is undiagnosed.
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Nancy Pelosi. That is comedic gold. It’s good to have some levity during times like these.
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The curve is going to go up sharply with the additional testing happening, I’d think. But the CFR should hopefully go down.
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Yeah hope we have some good news!
Stuff like this is what makes me question the lockdown approach:
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
It’s not about simply deaths. Why don’t people understand it’s about hospitalization?
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November isn’t 18 months away.
I keep hearing “under lying health issues” with those who have died. Nobody has yet said what those issues are. There is no common denominator. I’ve an ingrown toenail. Does that count?
People don’t have to die from Coronavirus itself for Coronavirus to lead to lots of death. No room, no doctors, no supplies is going to equal more death. These are finite resources and strained already in many areas just from where we are at at this second. Let alone where we may be if the curve does not flatten.
“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”
Edit: “The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”
Looks like “approaching the median age of death” may be a significant existing medical condition, too.
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Who doesn’t understand?
Nobody has read the article either.
You seem to be under the impression that I think it would be better if we did nothing and everyone just got the virus, once again. That is not what I’m saying at all. I can’t make comprehensive recommendations on how this should be handled, but something like isolating all older people and those with health issue that put them at risk, as well as those who have symptoms of the virus could be just as effective at preventing severe complications and deaths while also sparing the economic effects.
I get the feeling that few people on this forum like to think for themselves, and want to discourage others from doing so as well.
Who doesn’t understand? The people who are hung up on numbers of dead.
I am thinking it is likely something like HIV, or Herpes. My understanding is 1 in 6 adults in at least the US have herpes. I know cancer has already been stated in some sources, also elderly people again are at higher risk. So likely any kind of frailty is a higher chance of bad outcome.
Even younger people with no underlying issues have needed hospitalization. This should be common knowledge by now.
Question: Should we stop posting on this thread and all go over to Activities Guy’s thread?
No. Does anyone want nuke the Chinese pat over there?