Coronavirus - What Happened?

Now the CDC is reporting not to take the J&J vaccine…reports of nine deaths in September related to the J&J vaccine

A veritable crescendo of cases hitting pro sports.

What conspiracies? Most of the stuff that was called a conspiracy theory has been proven to be true or highly likely. From lab leak to vaccine efficacy. It is the so called “science” experts that have been changing the narrative of what they once said. They have been caught lying multiple times and continue to do so. Should we make a list?

Dr. Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH is a snake oil sales man? How so? What did he say in the interview that is false?

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I didn’t know there were people who still didn’t accept that it came from the Wuhan lab.

Here is a conspiracy. Italy and Spain the most pro green pass countries are now requiring test before entering their country. Meanwhile they are vaccinating their 5 years old to stop the spread. We should really move half the threat to the stupid threat we have. How idiotic governors can be.

Here is another conspiracy. Yesterday our new health minister said, she will stop the green pass idea for as long as she can, hinting of pressure. By the way we have a new government full of millenials and I am positively surprised of how much they have done already. We have a well educated and beautiful speaker as well. Feeling very American like at the moment. But the government it self is making all government workers to get vaccinated as a positive example towards the nation.

Yes, he is. Btw, why are you listing his degrees? We know that medical doctors are in the pocket of so-called “science”. Or degrees matter only when “maverick” doctors summon the courage to speak “the truth” conveniently on monetized social media channels?

Turns out, becoming a “maverick” covid denialist is extremely financially lucrative. If you’re a sociopath that doesn’t care that 1700 people are dying daily from (not with) daily in the US, you’re immediately catapulted to insta-fame in the anti vaxx/conservative media ecosystem, assuming that you have a medical degree or something similar. The doctor is working with RFK Jr. for whom the pandemic has been extremely profitable.

Kory, Malone (self proclaimed “inventor of mRNA vaccines”), now McCullough…

It’s fleecing the dumb, gullible sheep. much like FLCCC’s “telemedicine” fees for IVM prescriptions.

They are banking on you not understanding math (hence the frightfully large numbers thrown around), what RCTs are (you don’t know what they are, do you?) or how percentages work for that matter.

It’s you who’s the gullible sheep here, fleeced by snake oil salesmen.

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He actually cares for lives. This is what he is fighting for. To allow him to threat people. Listen to the podcast, dummy. Leave your fascistic bubble for 2 hours and 45 minutes.

Your country has the world’s largest death number and that guy says if treatment was allowed at least 50 % would have been saved, citing 3 other scientists.

Fucking truth right here. Conspiracies give those lacking in intelligence an avenue to feel superior.

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A podcast is not a substitute for a RCT, you idiot.

That’s why Weinstein and co are claiming that RCTs are an invention of “asshole scientists” because they know you scientifically illiterate fools will lap it up.

He’s lying.

You do know that thanks to an mentally unbalanced quasi-fascist lunatic and his henchmen we can measure the life saving effects of said “life saving treatments” and “kits” in real life? (spoiler alert: they were not only worthless but actively harmful)

Do you know where? Would you like to…drum roll…do your own research?

just leave the bubble for 3 hours. Then we can talk. Otherwise you are ignorant and there is no point to discuss anything.

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Bratko, you’re the equivalent of a cult member handing out leaflets in the street.

Or better, the lowest rung member of a MLM scheme who wants to discuss “an unique business opportunity”. You don’t get to set conditions with your podcasts for the dumb and gullible.

Try to find out what RCTs are and why your cult leaders are avoiding them - or claiming to do pseudo-RCTs.

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LMAO, man. So you refuse to leave the bubble and you call me a cult member, okay.

There is a reasonable explanation why RCTs are not made, presented in the podcast. I wont spoil it for you. Just watch it, then we can talk and discuss stuff. I dare you leave your bubble for 3 hours. I know it is a dangerous world and you are scared, but grow a pair/or get boosted if you want.

Yes and that reason is fake, intended to convince gullible fools such as yourself.

The fake RCT avoidance argument by snake oil peddlers usually falls in the following interval:

“There’s no time for RCTs! People are dying! RCT is the equivalent of a video recording of a crime and the evil scientists want us to meet an impossibly high standard, delay the cure at a time when we have overwhelming evidence that our “protocol” / “kit” (sounds medical-y, doesn’t it?) works and saves lives!”

This lower boundary RCT evasion is for the dumbest cult members, usually served in the podcast format.

For those the least dumb (but still dumb) on the upper boundary who want something more science-y that has an appearance of an actual research paper, they usually say that

“despite not having done a RCT, the very large sample allows adjusting for confounding factors, and there’s a clear benefit of taking (IVM/HCQ/Vitamin D/snake oil of your choosing) that is plainly visible for the group that is most at-risk”

Wow. Doesn’t this sound like a conclusion actual scientists would make? Well, no. It is fake science language used to impress fools.

And there are three, maybe four fake explanations for RCT avoidance that fall in the interval between these two in terms of complexity.

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Are you sure about this? It does not seem to square with the facts. China has prospered over the past year and their influence has grown.
I am not proclaiming they did do it on purpose, but I think it’s foolish to rule it out. Or any thing in between. We are not going to know anything for certain because the information pipeline is shutdown.

Who said anything about training? Of course training matters, but most people don’t need to go to college to do what they end up doing to be gainfully employed in their professions. I sure didn’t need my degree to open doors.
I am not saying college is useless. If you have a passion and want to pursue a study where college is necessary, by all means go. Most people are taking out 10s of thousands of dollars in loans to get a degree they will never use.
We were sold a bill of goods. Most people can learn a skill or a trade without university. And without having to suffer the indoctrination and humiliations of the pervasive cult of wokism that has stunk up a huge number of college campuses. But yeah, if you are passionate about gender studies or marxism, college is the place. And hey, we need collage football and the schools need to make hundreds of millions of dollars to bring us that sport. So we certainly should prop up these institutions for that reason alone.

Are you a scientist?

Australian propaganda is powerful. This is not a slight at @unreal24278. I think he’s a genuinely good person. But he lived in the most horrible narco-tyranny in the west. Bombarded by lies and bullshit 24 x7 for 2 years. I expect there to be hanging chads from that attempted programing. Fortunately he was red-pilled enough to get the fuck out and I wish him all the best.

Of course you would use the genetic fallacy. Can’t attack the argument, so you attack the source. Can you say precisely where he’s wrong and use your own virology degrees to establish that credibility?

Paging Dr. Peter Daszak… lol
I noticed your word salad contains no actual information of relevance to the topic.

Pot meet kettle.

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Are you a scientist?

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So it is fake randomized studies take a long period of time and a huge number of people?

Did you watch the podcast? I will not reply anymore if you haven’t watched the entire podcast. I have seen your side, I read CNN and official sources. I want you to spend 3 hours to listen to my side of the arguments. Then we can have debate and fact check together.

Define being a scientist. I don’t consider myself one.

Although I have published actual papers, co-authored a book about the (eye wateringly boring) topic of my PhD and I pay my bills by being an expert in my very obscure yet important engineering field. And most importantly, I know what RCTs are.

No. See? You still don’t get it.

No you haven’t, otherwise you would have know what a RCT is. My side isn’t the, “left”, “libtards”, “globalists”, “Bill Gates”, “lizard” people but the scientific method.

The virus doesn’t give a fuck about partisan politics.

So far his arguments are: You’re a snowflake. You’re not a scientist. And now he’s using ‘cult member’. It’s really slick using the right’s ad hominems back at the right! Basically, what he is saying is “I know you, are but what am I”.
So what you should do is take every shot they tell you to take, never leave your house and if you do, you should wear 10 masks and fuck your freedom. And if you walk by somebody’s house who might have covid, off to the interment camp you go… Because “The Science”, which means Dr. Fauci, because as he said, in the third person that “…dr. fauci is The Science (big S)”

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No, no looppar is the science here. I will kindly ignore him, because he is not arguing anything at all. He does not even want to listen to the source or my arguments. He is like, oh no you are not educated, I am the science.

If he knew anything about science, he would know that science is debatable. I have studied mostly debatable topics. For example my bachelor’s work was on measuring service quality in hospitality. You cant really measure such a thing. It all perception and arguing and debates. You bring on the table different authors and discussions on the topic when writing on such topics and you try to draw your own conclusions based on the literature review and the study you have done interviewing different managers or people on the field. I had a questionnaire send to different managers, so in the end I presented my results, the debate and drawer a conclusion. It was not like, I am the science and I am right. The conclusion was that the topic was debatable, there are a lot of authors arguing on it, here is what I found they are matching as valuable measurements, here is what I found from people working on the field.

Even on topics like body building, where we know a lot regarding the body and functionality of the exercises, we can not draw concrete solutions. You cant say do 3 sets of 8 reps, that is optimal. Or train to failure? How do you measure failure, how different people perceive failure.

But mr. Science here comes and say the science is set for Covid a virus that is not even 2 years old. Although science has changed 100 times on different Covid topics already and is developing on a daily basis. Even the ducking virus is developing montly. The dude is just a propagandist living in a fascistic bubble.

I was going to surprise him and say Trump is a ducking piece of incompetent shut handling the virus. He could have done so much more and his operation Wrap speed has brough such much shut to this world. But oh boy oh boy. Mr. Science would not engage in a debate.

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