This is another fake news. Hospital managers are freeing up beds and staff due to covid. They are basically managing in a way that the hospital always works in full capacity with minimum staff required. Again this fake news was debunked by the mainstream media. You should really, I mean really stop listening to corporate media only. Got get some main stream media news. There are reporters and news in the main stream that have 10 times the viewrship at peak times from the fake news corporate media. Just chose one. More accurate, more research is done and no written narratives.
Iâve never actually heard of a case where this happened. Iâve heard a lot âthe sky is fallingâ warnings that it was going to happen, but never a case where it actually did.
Should have worn your mask.
I doubt youâd tell âshoulda been wearing a seatbeltâ to the wife of a man killed by a drunk driver while he was out getting baby formula.
Fortunately the young women are pretty well protected against Covid. The death rate in women bellow 35 is insignificant. Pretty sure more drunk drivers kill young women than Covid.
What if a fully-vaccinated guy with a âbreakthroughâ infection coughs on you and gives you the Rona? If you have to miss a week of work with a mild case of a mild cold, your company has been losing since it hired you.
I donât think you know very much about the way hospitals operate.
Well, to be fair, I feelz like that is probably only due to under testing of âmotor vehicle crashâ victims for COVID. Hell, I feelz like attributing poor driving to being drunk is often due to a misunderstanding of COVID symptoms. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT IS MORE THAN LIKELY DUE TO COVID.
Because Biden, donchaknow?
Not that you are racist, but someone can still be racist without being overt about it.
I donât understand where people are getting the idea vaccines donât work fromâŠ
Look at the Netherlands, theyâve hit nearly 2.5x their previous peak during prior waves⊠Yet the hospitalisation rate is still slightly lower than it was during their last wave at which topped at 10-11k cases/day.
So a hospitalisation rate of less than 50% of what it was (and an ICU rate of around 20-30%) when they had 10-11k cases/day, despite them recording over 20k cases/day (yesterday 23k)
Yes⊠Immunity wanes, as it does with the flu shot⊠But the vaccine still appears to be a potent protector against developing severe illness⊠To note, NL started their vaccination campaign in fucking JANURARY⊠According to the data available, they need to roll out booster shots
Israel boosted most of their elligable population and cases went from 16,000/day to 3-500/day⊠From a 7 day avg of 20 deaths/day to 2 deaths/day⊠And once again prior to vaccine rollout they were at a 7 day avg of 60 deaths/day despite having less cases/day relative to their wave that peaked at 16,000/day post vaccination rollout.
And the VAST majority of deaths in Israel were amongst those that werenât vaccinated. Israel doesnât have a great coverage within the population. There are large swathes of anti vaxxers amongst the ultra orthodox Jews, within Islamic neighbourhoods etc. Itâs not the vaccine they distrust per se though, itâs the government.
In the Netherlands, I believe over 80% of those in ICU are unvaccinated⊠90% of the adult population is vaccinated⊠But vaccines donât work right?
Then I see people on Facebook posting headlines âin X country, 50% of those in hospital are vaccinatedâŠâ However theyâre referencing a country where some 95% of adults are fully vaccinated⊠Do you not understand statistical analysis or simple math?
Vaccine = you can still get the virus⊠There are far more vaccinated people relative to unvaccinated. The gap closes, the fact 50% are unvaccinated despite them only making up 5% of the population fucking proves it does, in fact provide a degree of protection.
I donât care if you get vaccinated or not, and Iâm not pro mandates⊠But talking about the ârisksâ relative to actually catching covid (provided youâre above the age of thirty to thirty five) is an absolute joke
I believe many donât understand how clinical trials are conducted, or how the VAERS works (and how the prevalence of vaccine mediated side effects are monitered in proportion to the overall rate of adverse effects from all vaccines)⊠Also, if a 95y/O gets vaccinated and has a heart attack next week, that might just be because theyâre old as fuck.
We have phase I,II,III clinical trials and postmarketing reports⊠We donât lack data pertaining to these vaccines, we donât lack information on the pharmacokinetics/pharmacodynamics pertaining to these vaccines⊠However there was one flawed study provided by Pfizer pertaining to the vaccines, the set up/breach of protocal within the study totally nullifies itâs validity⊠But thatâs one study out of many.
I donât like appealing to authority⊠And itâs going to sound like Iâm talking shit as Iâm young but Iâm not⊠I know medical professionals who were intimately involved with the manufacturing process of coronavirus vaccines⊠there is no conspiracy, the goal is to reduce burden on hospitals so when Joe has a heart attack from his decades long history of anabolic steroid use (thatâs healthy? Right??? Itâs not the steroids causing heart attacksâŠ) he can receive treatment. I believe there was/is a state in the USA that had such a high covid backlog they stopped resuscitating patients who went into cardiac arrest from⊠Just about all causes⊠But hospitals are fiiinnnneeeâŠ
If you donât like the corona vaccines⊠Fine, they are somewhat more risky relative to many contemporary vaccines⊠But that increase in relative risk is miniscule from baseline. Why isnât anyone bitching over the potential for rare, life threatening adverse reactions associated with the meningococcal vaccine?
Why is there this slew fascination surrounding coronavirus vaccines? The technology used to produce them has been around for decades, even if it wasnât commercially distributed. Was there this large of an anti vaccine sentiment surrounding the polio vaccine?
âBut immunity wanesâ⊠How long do you think immunity from the flu shot (that is even less effective than the covid shot and I think almost totally ineffective if they get the wrong strains) lasts
It might be like the hepatitis B vaccine⊠Where you need three shots⊠Or itâll be like the flu, where the vaccine is tweaked to accommodate new strains and you get a new shot every year or so.
Pfizerâs new antiviral drug might (soon) make coronavirus a pandemic of third world countries. This is soon to become endemic, everyone is going to get it sooner or later.
I just hope I donât get it in Europe because itâd mess up my plan to vigorously train Dutch kickboxing⊠And I have a few underlying conditions thatâd make it a fairly nasty affair (though not especially dangerous) if I caught it.
In most countries⊠itâs about the burden on healthcare systems. In Australia? A lot of it was about imposing centralised control. Look at the permenant pandemic legislature being tabled in Victoria for reference. Gives the Premier almost total control over the population, itâs absolutely insane. The Victorian Bar association came out in protest over the bill, they donât usually comment on matters like this.
My post was to contrast how parents of today see this situation differently than parents of the 1950s saw the situation with polio. It is very common and understandable for a parent to have concerns about long term effects.
I am aware that mRNA has been in the works for some time, but you donât need to convince me of that. Iâm vaxed and my child is an adult.
To put it another way, the same visceral drive parents have to protect their kids is responsible for the polio vaccine acceptance and the covid vaccine hesitancy.
Do I?
most covid hospitalizations are for mild or asymptomatic Covid
hospitals forced to pause all âelective proceduresâ in 2020 and some are again due to the surging Delta variant -
In April 2020 1.4 mil health care workers laid off - Nurses and Health Care Workers Experience Record Job Losses Amid Pandemic, Despite New Unemployment Figure Dropping to 13.3 Percent
âfield hospitalsâ never had any patients
This isnât news to anyone. Donât placate those that claim racism without foundation because it makes the actual racists seem more prevalent than they really are.
Call or racism when the shoe fits and itâs far more damaging then how this fool has done it.
Thatâs great, but I asked you directly to elaborate further about your statement that the vaccines are âexperimentalâ and that âlong-term studiesâ are allegedly missing.
Youâve dodged the question.
I also personally know people who have been hospitalized from Covid. My post was explaining common concerns parents of today have.
And I have a relative who died and others who almost died. The concerns over long term effects IF you donât have an adverse reaction to the vaccines arenât valid.
However the chance of a healthy kid dying from covid (EXTREMELY LOW) is about the same as or ever so slightly greater than the chance a healthy kid dies from taking the vaccine.
Both cases youâre looking at like 1/1,000,000
However if parents are too scared to vaccinate their child they should also be too scared to drive with their kid in the car, or to let their kid play on a playground etc.
Itâs good to be risk averse to a degree⊠But then thereâs being risk averse to the point of absurdity.
Oh I know. It isnât hard to find covert racists nowadays. They just quote mlk and say critical race theory is bad without knowing what it is, pretty typical.
I think the people on the other side of these comments tend to misunderstand the speaker in a lot of circumstances. If youâre already convinced youâre talking to a racist, is anything they say going to prove you wrong?
CRT isnât âbadâ, itâs a theory. The problem is that it categorically paints people with x background and y traits into oppressors or victims, and thatâs an absolute shit way to look at society. How are people supposed to be equal if they are labelled âvictimsâ or âoppressorsâ for factors that are outside of their control? CRT does not take individualâs actions into account, because someone could be a âvictimâ and still be racist AF (Iâll use Joy Reid as an example for that). It also doesnât account for those who are born into âoppressorâ roles that strive to do everything possible in the name of equality.
The narrative on race these days is absolute shit. You can be a white guy approving of the affirmative action legislature signed in the 1960âs, and still be called a racist (this literally happened to me in this thread) and thereâs no recourse.
I have met very few overtly racist white people in my life, and they were all singled out for their beliefs. I have seen many more overtly racist non-white people and they are never told âyou shouldnât say thatâ by those around them. Maybe itsâ time we stop focusing on race and start holding everyone accountable for saying/doing racist shit?
Anything that does that is definitely racist.