Coronavirus - What Happened?

My mid 80s parents - what 2nd shot reaction?

My mid 50s laborer brother - 2 days off with fever.

Didn’t l read covid or vaccine was often harder on fit people than couch potato?

It’s a really strange thing. That’s been the case with a number of viruses in the past and even though there’s a biological reason it always manages to surprise me, even though I know better.

I am getting the Pfizer vaccine (the first shot on Tuesday). Hopefully I am one of the lucky ones who doesn’t feel any side effects.

One observation I have seen in my state is that there are plenty of vaccines available in rural areas, but it is difficult to get one in the twin cities. I am not sure exactly why that is? Poor planning? More demand on average in the cities?

It’s definitely harder on younger people than older it seems from anecdotes on here at least. As for fit vs couch I haven’t seen it but I have a highly scientific theory. The fit body has a reaction to something foreign and novel being introduced to it. The couch potato body is constantly being filled with random stuff (deep fried butter?) that the body is just like fuck it I guess we’re having this today.

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I’m not sure. I can say the logistics and storage requirements are probably more of a problem for rural areas. In addition but strictly anecdotally rural areas may be less keen on getting the vaccine, or more “skeptical”.

Which seems odd since the virus is the opposite. In my case I’d rather just get the covids, or I already have, not sure, never been tested.

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My wife had cold symptoms and lost her senses of taste and smell for a bit around Christmas. I didn’t lose those senses, but had cold symptoms and fatigue for a day or two around then. Her parents were (swab)tested around that time and both tested positive. Out of curiosity, my wife got an antibody test done about a month later…negative. Seems weird. Never heard of someone not being positive on the swab test…hell, I’ve heard of people leaving before being swabbed and STILL receiving positive results. But don’t we typically expect antibodies?

I’d say you can be sure you have had “it” by some measures, but maybe not others.

You should have worn a mask.

Why?

To not get sick, why else?

Ive got a friend/co-worker who followed every guideline to a t. Wore 2 masks for months. He got it last month, broke his heart. He could not understand, but…

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Should’ve worn three. Or four.

Edit: I prefer a day or two of fatigue to maskination-forever. Hell, if my choices are:
A. Emaskinate myself forever
B. Get sick tomorrow and either die immediately or suffer for a month before dying

Give me B. Not joking. At all.

I have coworkers who wear masks and haven’t gotten it. I know people who didn’t follow the guidlines and have gotten it.

I will eat entire kilos of the stuff to avoid cauliflower.

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Have they been swab tested? I haven’t gotten “it” either(well, who knows…I sure didn’t run to the doctor because I was tired), and my mask wearing has been very light(a day or two for a few minutes in the building at work, and a few times putting one on between the entrance and about three feet inside a bar).

I don’t know that that’s necessarily true. Hobbesian/Burkean conservativism and rank and file social democrat politics aren’t especially utopian, though perhaps they couldn’t be called ideologies in the same way as ethno-statism or communism.

Both are, at their core, anti-revolutionary. In my opinion anyway.

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My future sister in law (student nurse) was absolutely floored by the AZ vaccine. Fever, nausea etc. My two 80 year old grandparents? Nada.

Not a massive data pool to draw from, but it seems that young people will get a worse reaction.

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I don’t know if this will help, but I don’t use utopia and utopian like most people. I base my use of those terms on Utopia, by Thomas More, which most Americans have not read (so that wouldn’t include you). People who have read Utopia will notice that it isn’t very utopian as they understand the term. I also keep Machiavelli in mind when bringing up utopia as some think More’s work was a response to The Prince. I think the best we can hope for is found somewhere in between.

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I thought that was how everyone understood “utopia” and “utopian.”

I would bet 99% of the people who use the word don’t know who Thomas More was.

And 99% of the people, if not more, who use the word utopia think it refers to a place that resembles Eden or something. The utopia of More was far from that. That’s why I say all ideologies are utopian: they are all forms of slavery.

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