Far from the worst thing that has happened to Catholics in England.
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Not really. Just âthey werenât all wearing mask and distancedâŠâ Somebody snitch? Weâre they being watched? Not sure
Itâs pretty crazy stuff. Unfortunately, even with the 1st amendment, this sort of thing seems inevitable in the u.s. as well. Weâre already close where churches in some stays were fined for violating covid restrictions. Just havenât sent in the stormtroopers to break up mass yet.
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Youâre not wrong, but that still doesnât make it right.
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Hope no pro-mask-mandate folks have any problem with this, then.
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Shit, I didnât know covid vaccinations would nearly wipe out all of the Jews! @brickhead we need to leave earth NOW
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Shouldâve enforced harder, Iâd say.
Iâm sure you can go back through threads and find out why the 1st Amendment doesnât apply to the unmaskinated.
Some animals are more equal than others?
Thatâs racist. All animals are equal, but those choosing not to be emaskinated deserve scorn. Because the science and the numbers.
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The thing is, even if masks were 100% effective Iâd be against the state forcefully compelling citizens to wear them. Risk assessment is an individual choice. Too often the argument get bogged down in the practical and we forget the moral. But in this case, both say masks are idiotic and wrong.
IF? IF? I present the only evidence I have been shown in the past year:
Edit: If they were 100% effective at preventing transmission, I think the case could be made that you were committing an assault by not wearing one(if you get within whatever distance from others). But that goes for all times, with all respiratory diseases.
Some think you need to believe the scientism in order to make the correct choice.
Maybe in your online fantasy utopia. Drunk driving is illegal because of the harm it can cause others. The drunk doesnât get to make an individual risk assessment.
Yes, because feelings are more important than facts.
That is mostly because the drunk is impaired and not cognitively able to make an assessment. This is not true of most people who oppose wearing masks.
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Havenât I argued with you in the past that drunk driving shouldnât be illegal?
Donât conflate morals with feelings. There are moral absolutes, facts.
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And this is why Iâll always be happy the no government people will never achieve anything close to a majority to implement something like this.
Definitely not a âno government person.â More of a âdefined role for government person.â Like Ze said, not law based on feelings.
Thatâs a tough argument to make, assuming much of anything is illegal. The content of oneâs blood, however, is a different story.
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Surprisingly, I agree with you and the idea that the State shouldnât compel you to wear masks.
Itâs why I get so frustrated with anti-maskers.
Weâre still compelled to wear masks over here too despite the fact that the number of cases are very low and the majority of cases are being imported but under also control since the ones who have been wuhaned(#canceldt79) are being found when tested during mandatory home or isolation facilities(their choice, with the exception of China) quarantine.
I always end up bringing up the Japanese when discussing this shit. Their government has the power to impose lockdowns and mandate compulsory mask wearing but they didnât have the balls to because the cases hadnât gotten out of hand yet and the people are mostly compliant with guidelines in large part due to the governmentâs quasi-fascist actions during WW2 and they know what they will do if the cases got out of hand.
IMO if most people just stick with guidelines and stop whining, the government wouldnât have to step in. I donât know what itâs like in the US, but over here and around the region, the governments would rather not impose lockdowns because they have blown away large portions of their reserves and now have to deal with joblessness and potential business closures, which leads to less tax revenue and less under-the-table money in some places.
They already have lots of power(although I can think of one country where they hypothetically really wanted to use the lockdowns to their advantage. Hypothetically.) and a large section of the working population works for the public sector, whose salaries they still have to pay despite running at a loss and they also partially own all public transport and they still have to subsidize that now because the population has less income.
In short, I donât agree with most government mandates pertaining to this situation. In fact, all Iâve ever done was explain exponential growth and ranted about civic and moral duty here. Iâm just fucking disappointed with people other than the Japanese and perhaps some other countries that have the same culture which I donât know about.
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This doesnât compute, for me. I donât know whether something is lost in translation or what. Do you really believe you can comply hard enough?
Have to? What do you think of governments that havenât stepped in? Do they just hate their people? Does DeSantis just want to decorate his State with dead bodies?