Coronavirus - What Happened?

Write some prose?

What do you do when you find yourself imprisoned in your room for 6 weeks? Xavier de Maistre, a 27-year-old Frenchman found himself in this uneasy situation when he was arrested in Turin after a duel, in the Spring of 1790. But with only a butler and a dog for company, Xavier de Maistre managed to fill his time by embarking on a journey around his bedroom, later writing an account of what he had seen.

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Well, I’m not this far gone just yet :joy:.

Seriously, this volume escaped me…this happened??

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Yes, in 1794 in Turin. After being informed that his house arrest has been cancelled, de Maistre initially refused to leave the bedroom ā€œbecause he hasn’t yet seen everythingā€

So perhaps the going insane part is not optional.

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@Jewbacca

Continued discussion from the flame free thread.

China cannot possibility have reached herd immunity. Maybe in Wuhan(the place of origin), but not anywhere else. You probably know I’m always skeptical about anything pertaining to the CCP so I wouldn’t be posting this if I weren’t at least pretty sure I know what I’m saying.

The initial lockdowns were very strict, with deployment of the military, high tech surveillance, constant movement monitoring with app tech supplied by, and jointly coordinated with tech giants like Alibaba, plus mass testing.

You can get a COVID test easily at any hospital for less than 10USD in China right now. My wife just got 2 there. Anyone who enters China from abroad is quarantined in a dedicated facility for 2 weeks and tested.

Friends on the ground in 3 different provinces have told me the same thing.

They stopped renewing passports to prevent people from leaving the country in my wife’s city a couple of months ago, presumably to prevent people from travelling and bringing the virus back home. I don’t know whether it’s the same in other places.

4 major provinces have been put on the ā€œsafeā€ list on the immigration side where I live. Guangdong(113million pop), Zhejiang(58million pop) and 2 others I can’t remember but they’re pretty big. No other country in the world is on that list.

@anna_5588

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Lord preserve us from Scousers.

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Also, culturally speaking, a large proportion of Chinese ppl fear death and are willing to put up with both authoritarianism and hardship.
Idk about anywhere else, but my contacts in Shanghai reported that a large proportion of they city put on a self imposed lockdown that lasted 2-3 weeks AFTER the government gave the okay to open up
WeChat has been critical for extensive contact tracing (help when 90+% of the population rely on the same app for pretty much everything).
In Shanghai, if your COVID score is yellow or red (in a potential COVID region or in contact w/ other potential covid person) businesses won’t let you in.

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As compared to Liverpudlians, for whom death would be a mercy. :joy:

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Neither did Sweden. For example, currently they’re registering two times as many new infected cases per million than Italy.

But that doesn’t stop the baseless alt-right mantra how a bureaucratic left wing government allegedly became a beacon of freedom and defeated Covid.

You want freedom? Here’s your freedom (not you per se, but you know what I’m talking about)

A ā€œnear-capacityā€ crowd of some 47,000 is expected to pack into Auckland’s Eden Park for the second Bledisloe Cup international between New Zealand and Australia on Sunday.

But there’s a massive industry for peddling comforting lies to people. Self-deception is an easy way out when dealing with a systemic shock that’s a pandemic.

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Plus most of my friends and relatives stay with, or within close proximity with their parents and/or grandparents. Even if they’re not afraid of catching the virus, they’d not want to risk spreading it to the elderly.

It’s a tian da lei pi sin lol.

(Confucius say:

If you get your parents wuhaned, lightning will strike you.)

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Can’t access the first link.

EDIT:

Nevermind, found it on the main page.

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Likewise. But apparently according to Sweden’s chief epidemiologist multi-generational socializing is a problem that needs to be ā€œsolvedā€ by the state.

Beacon of freedom indeed.

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Why are you quarantining?

I believe 99% of the people who use the term herd immunity have no clue what it means. Herd immunity does not happen in a matter of months, if it happens at all, without a vaccine.

Who actually expected it to happen in a few months though? The problem is that the lockdowns and restrictions are having disastrous consequences around the world, so the longer we let this drag on the worse it will be. It doesn’t look like a safe and effective vaccine is coming anytime soon either, so trying to slow the spread might only delay deaths from COVID and not prevent them at all. Also, there are no vaccines in existence for any other coronavirus because immunity is supposedly short-lived, the fact is that we could be dealing with this for the foreseeable future.

The virus is bad enough, all the added bullshit is making this worse than necessary. As long as hospitals aren’t overwhelmed there is no reason to freak out.

Because I was in extensive contact with someone who tested positive

Prayers that you stay in good health

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Seconded.

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Thank you kindly gents, sincerely. I’ve also got @loppar and his in-laws in mind. So far persistent dizziness is all I have, but I anticipate other symptoms starting to show up in the next 3 days or so based on my athlete’s symptoms.

\let steam off
Right now I’m more than a little salty about how close I came to infecting my father - who has had stroke and although fully recovered is in no condition to to fight this thing with meds, etc. - and my first week’s client, who is 80 with CHF. If I hadn’t been notified Sunday, I’d have possibly killed someone.

The person who infected me was the kickboxing coach for one of my athletes, and subject to mandatory testing prior to fight night. Except he didn’t take it, and lied to me about it and the results. My athlete, his wife, his kids are all infected along with the other corner man, who ended up cornering a fight the next night as well. The athlete DID test, and was negative, but caught it during the weight cut in the next 24 hours (day before fight). Of course he didn’t know it and ended up fighting both his opponent and the fatigue.

The rest of us are all bored and salty. And I imagine the same for the 100 or so people my other corner man had to notify. Fortunately still no symptoms for him so unlikely he transmitted it.

I feel a bit better now lol
/letting steam off

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Be positive. The vast majority of people have very mild symptoms if any.

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Thanks Chris. I don’t want to sound annoyed at you (I’m not), but I do know that. I am not in fear for my life or well-being, but thank you for positive encouragement.

I am very upset at the way my infection happened. Particularly coming close to giving this thing to my father and potentially killing him, since I was thinking about spending a few days visiting, or my first client of the week and killing her. They are both particularly at risk.

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