It’s tiresome to have to correct conspiracy theories is what I meant.
I don’t rely on polls as they’re often wrong. For example, take a look at 2016.
So you are basing your assertion that Trump is crushing it based on polls favoring Biden, since in 2016 the polls favored Clinton and Trump won? I think you might want to think about the soundness of this logic.
So Moderna is more of an experimental vaccine company so far. I have to say that I’m skeptical of these RNA vaccines, regular vaccines have side effects and some are not very effective at building immunity but with this there seems to be more potential for unintended long term effects.
You should have gone out and got it sooner when everything as shut down, you wouldn’t have missed out on anything. I got the virus back in April when there was an outbreak at my work, I cook for a nursing home and all the remaining employees in the kitchen got it except one guy. I spoke to him after he got the results back, he was disappointed that it was negative. I know some people will freak out when they read this, but if you are young and healthy then the risk for you is very low and there is a good chance you won’t even have symptoms. Even most of the nursing home residents who were already on the verge of death survived it, it does kill people but the rate is pretty low.
This is idiotic. Why would I want to get it?
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Even more idiotic
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I’m really impressed by your sense of civic duty. Here’s some more for you to sort out, because I was starting to think they must be true.
1. A DNA test proved that Bigfoot is a part-human hybrid…and deserves U.S. citizenship!
2. The government secretly removed burnt Sasquatch corpses from Mount St. Helens after the 1980 eruption.
4. Bigfoot is really an alien.
6. Sasquatches occasionally sodomize domestic cows.
8. 10 percent of Sasquatches might be gay.
10. The government captured a live Sasquatch in 1999.
I don’t know how anyone could possibly question any of this, the evidence is rock solid.
Because you have it now.
If you saw they way we were working then, with one person doing a two person job, you would want to stay home for 14 days too. It was me and him running the kitchen when normally we have 8-9 people.
I do? I haven’t been tested yet. And getting it earlier sounds like a pretty inefficient way of avoiding getting it now, doesn’t it?
There is still your life at play here. There are a lot of people my age, otherwise healthy, that nearly lost their lives due to the virus. Same for middle aged people.
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You would be immune, and you wouldn’t have to be quarantined. Or at least by the rules we have here you wouldn’t.
They weren’t healthy. Just about all of them had comorbidities, including the ones over 80 years old. Over 50% of people have no symptoms.
But you know what, there is no use in beating a dead horse, I have already gone over this several times in this thread and the other one. All I know is I wouldn’t be worried.
It’s been alleged that immunity lasts a couple of months at best, and again if the point of it is not getting the virus, I believe that being infected is a really ineffective way of not getting infected. Besides, I am not aware of rules that exonerate immune people from being quarantined here.
The data that was available 6 months ago painted a different picture than that we have now. I am not worried or scared either, but I would never purposely get the virus for any reason.
They don’t know how long it actually lasts, with other coronaviruses it’s a few years. There are three people who have been confirmed to have been infected twice but they have problems with their immune systems. If you have something like AIDS then you don’t become immune to viruses like normal people.
Its the only way that works, unless you permanently isolate yourself from people.
Yeah, and the new and more accurate data shows that COVID is not nearly as dangerous as previously believed.
I look at it the same way as something like chicken pox. When I was a kid there were some other kids in the neighborhood who had it, other parents sent their kids to play with them so they would get it. Now chicken pox is the end of the world and you need a vaccine, but nearly all older people got it and suffered no serious adverse effects. Of course if you have health problems then both chicken pox and COVID can fuck you up, but that is the exception.
They’re a biotech firm. Pretty much ALL biotech firms are looking at something “experimental” since that’s how you get market share.
You’re skeptical of a lot of things you shouldn’t be, and not skeptical of a lot of things you should be.
You’re saying that based on absolutely nothing, and no knowledge of what you’re talking about.
I wrote about this elsewhere, but RNA vaccines are on going to be much LESS likely to have those same side effects, pretty much all the things conventional vaccines might have. And they’ll be easier to produce, and easier to manufacture.
You want these.
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Maybe, but how can you know for sure if its produced in such a rush?
On another note, here is some stuff relating to how COVID is being used as an opportunity to push another agenda. Tell me what you think.
UN Secretary-General António Guterres has called on governments to incorporate “meaningful” climate action in all aspects of recovery from the global pandemic.
This means more taxes and massive subsidies for otherwise unprofitable businesses.
- “The Great Reset” is a commitment to jointly and urgently build the foundations of our economic and social system for a more fair, sustainable and resilient future.
- It requires a new social contract centred on human dignity, social justice and where societal progress does not fall behind economic development.
Sounds a bit like a communist revolution with that sort of rhetoric along with small businesses collapsing and millions losing jobs.
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/about
The report found that 121 million more people could be “pushed to the brink of starvation this year” as a result of disruption to food production and supplies, diminishing aid as well as mass unemployment. The report estimates that COVID-19 related hunger could cause 12,000 deaths per day: the peak global mortality rate for COVID-19 in April was 10,000 deaths per day.
If the COVID management strategy is about saving lives then how is this acceptable?
And of course the gender agenda - the UN is fighting the patriarchy.
Also, Marxist rioters across America are spared from COVID restrictions in the name of BLM. If your business didn’t close then they might burn it down. All this stuff adds up to a really bad situation for most of the world.
Being from Portugal, he should know some of Spain’s history specifically, what happened when it was ruled by a woman, Isabel.
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That’s the standard line. It makes me angry. First, you can’t know anything for sure, no matter how long you take or what kind of drug you design. That is exactly why large scale clinical trials are done. And it’s exactly why monitoring is performed after something hits the market. But all this really misses the entire point, which is that this process is happening (both Moderna and other companies) with the full cooperation of pretty much the entire scientific apparatus in the world.
Second, because I’m a biochemist and I can understand what they’re doing. Third, ignorance is a poor excuse for conspiratorial thinking. Just because YOU don’t know how it could be done so quickly doesn’t mean it’s nefarious or bad. In fact, all it really means is that you don’t understand the process itself.
I don’t think a politician taking advantage of a crisis has anything to do with the viability of a vaccine produced by the best science available and next to unlimited resources.
I don’t know what’s being proposed but it sounds like typical ill-thought bureaucratic bullshit. Not new before or since. Most crises both minor and major have a component of this type of political opportunism. That doesn’t mean anything except politicians do what they always do.
No, it’s not. Not even close. We’ve had numerous climate agreements before.
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But isn’t that the same criticism being made against the Russian COVID vaccine? Even Joe Biden said that Trump’s plan to fast track the vaccine is dangerous.
The problem I see with this sort of thinking is that people are discourage to think for themselves. If there is something you are skeptical about but don’t fully understand then should the default response be to accept the official narrative and question nothing? Makes me wonder about the other thread, how did so many people start thinking like this but become atheist?
The rest of my comment has nothing to do with the vaccine.
Except the UN and WHO are two of the main organizations calling the shots and they aren’t your average politicians. I can find the post later, but there was something on the UN’s twitter saying how all countries need to take the same measures for COVID or it puts the rest of the world at risk and so on, this is a centrally planned scheme and not just political ineptness.
On the other hand, if you think this is nothing more than political ineptness and bureaucracy then isn’t that a good reason to oppose their plans?
You were looking at the link above above the quote, what I was referring to is the social justice and “new social contract” talk from the WEF. The climate agenda is part of it, but it goes further than that. This is plan to reorganize society.
I was told that in Jamaica it is required to wear a mask in public, even walking down the road in rural areas, and that there is now a 5pm curfew in effect. Turns out 34 people have died there from COVID. However, it’s not unusual to have more than 34 murders in a week and over 1300 people were murdered last year. If this is about saving lives then why the draconian measures while people are killed every day?
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