When people die of AIDS, do they really die of AIDS?
My girlfriend lost her to uncle to cancer as a result of not being able to receive his treatments. The hospital said they had to focus on covid patients first. Fuck that shit. The whole goddamn thing was a big nothing burger from the start.
This is the definition of emotion. Your ability to critically think does not provide you with more updated knowledge concerning a novel virus than the CDC had on hand.
Your single anecdote does not supersede all information we have about the virus.
Honestly, itās laughably ironic how ass backwards you have it - a completely selfish, emotion-driven decision defended as critical thinking that allowed you to have unprecedented foresight. Itās embarrassing to even read that, haha.
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Thatās not data. Thatās another assertion you made without any supporting data. āCheck out how manyā¦ā Is not āhere is the data showing that coronavirus fatalities are less than halfā¦ā
I see. Here school is supposed to be closed from the end of June until September.
I didnāt mean to say that it is the case in many parts of Canada either, rather that with a different approach more things could open sooner. But it looks like all my complaining is paying off, they are looking at opening more things in Ontario soon, including child care and summer camps.
Yes I donāt have much confidence in the WHO. I donāt think they are about to change any policies or recommendations just yet, see what they say here:
It seems to me that the numbers arenāt entirely accurate due to this, and also because the test has a very high number of false negatives. More research into that would need to be done, but what I have seen myself is at the nursing home where I work there were 12 residents who had COVID symptoms and died, but only 9 actually tested positive and are counted as COVID deaths. Over 60 residents (almost all of them) had symptoms, but only about 40 tested positive.
So while deaths from other causes may have been counted as COVID deaths, some COVID deaths are not being counted as such due to negative tests.
I have to hand it to the government. I may think they are all corrupt imbeciles, but they look like theyāve played a relative blinder here. Dare I dream of a haircut and a pint in late June?
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These are Excerpts from the July/August 2020 āForeign Affairsā entitled:
The Pandemic and Political Order
It Takes a State
By Francis Fukuyama
āThe factors responsible for successful pandemic responses have been state capacity, social trust, and leadership. Countries with all threeāa competent state apparatus, a government that citizens trust and listen to, and effective leadersāhave performed impressively, limiting the damage they have suffered. Countries with dysfunctional states, polarized societies, or poor leadership have done badly, leaving their citizens and economies exposed and vulnerableā.
āThe United States has bungled its response badly and seen its prestige slip enormously. The country has vast potential state capacity and had built an impressive track record over previous epidemiological crises, but its current highly polarized society and incompetent leader blocked the state from functioning effectively. The president stoked division rather than promoting unity, politicized the distribution of aid, pushed responsibility onto governors for making key decisions while encouraging protests against them for protecting public health, and attacked international institutions rather than galvanizing themā.
āIt was the countryās singular misfortune to have the most incompetent and divisive leader in its modern history at the helm when the crisis hit, and his mode of governance did not change under pressure. Having spent his term at war with the state he heads, he was unable to deploy it effectively when the situation demanded. Having judged that his political fortunes were best served by confrontation and rancor rather than national unity, he has used the crisis to pick fights and increase social cleavages. American under-performance during the pandemic has several causes, but the most significant has been a national leader who has failed to lead.ā
Thoughts/Opinions?
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Pretty much spot on. Not much to say.
Heās always been about ratings.
Sad question, but Iām curious: anybody know of any children who have passed from this?
I know a woman whose brother was pretty dismissive of all this, thinking heād be fine if he got it. His 3 year old daughter got it pretty bad (no one in the family had been showing any symptoms) and died after a few weeks.
Not really a discussion on whether his actions were right or wrong (and Iām sure heās beating himself up over this), just curious on the kids dying part. Before this, Iād only known of 40-80 year olds.
I heard there were a few cases of kids dying around the world, but very few and they had other severe health issues too. Last I heard, nobody in Canada under 20 years old died. The median age for deaths is around 80. Just like the flu, people at any age could potentially die but itās the elderly and those in poor health who it is most likely to happen to.
Thatās really shitty, and Iām really sorry to hear that.
I havenāt kept up with the stats off hand, but there have been reports of Kawasaki syndrome as a secondary result of covid in the very young. I donāt know anybody personally, but I know it has happened. Not sure about death, but serious infection yes.
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Masks may have worked in this situation?
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Dare I dream of a haircut?
Iāve read reports about new surges of infections in FL and TX I believe? After I read that though, the percentage of people infected was astonishingly low.
Can governors realistically turn around and impose additional lockdowns? I suppose thatās a dumb question. But from what I have read, executive orders are not law. Laws have to be passed by a legislature. I could be wrong on this.
Will people obey a second time around?
I would think for the most part states wouldnāt go back unless the numbers got really bad. The situation isnāt the same as it was initially from a knowledge and testing point even if those are still weak areas on the whole. Those are much better than they were.
I donāt know about the executive order part and I would imagine each state has their own limits/powers on what can and canāt be done. I would be surprised if lockdowns happen again unless numbers and deaths get to a point where people are demanding something similar for safety.
Houston is talking about locking down again. The numbers are climbing, but we arenāt anywhere close to overwhelming the healthcare system. Of course it has NOTHING to do with the 60,000 people protesting shoulder to shoulder or the Floyd funeral.
This is what i am afraid of, and i dont know why more people arent genuinely afraid of it either. Far left seems fine with it as the cause justifies the risk, and the far right just seems giddy that the left is being hypocritical and might be the cause of another outbreak. Meanwhile, the country could be staring down another economic shutdown and a grizzly bear market is charging at the USA but the Fed already shot all their bullets to artificially prop up the market (at the expense of the future) so that POTUS could claim a strong economy on the campaign trail. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.
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Many of them didnāt have jobs anyway. Those that did are probably making more from unemployment.
If all of the numbers and reporting are āriggedā; and we are all being fed misleading data and fake numbers on a daily basis as many of the āReverse Chicken Littlesā are suggesting (I donāt have a better descriptive name)ā¦one thing is apparentā¦
People have had itā¦and I donāt have any idea how people will react to any additional shutdowns.
The next few months are going to be revealing.