Coronavirus - What Happened?

lol. you got Got!

Alas, poor Colucci, I knew him.

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At least he has the power to ban himself. The rest of us are screwed.

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Does anybody else find it interesting that coronavirus cases and deaths are higher in Democratic states as opposed to Republican states?

Okay, you’ve got your points for politifact. I’m sure you can buy seeds somewhere in Michigan now, even if my friend clearly couldn’t and recorded it on video.

The point I was making is that there is no shortage of objections that can be made to the states’ responses, and to label protesters as “astroturf” or simply whining about Applebees is not a fair representation when you’ve got people with all kinds of legitimate concerns.

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Sounds like he should have been protesting the store manager, not the government.

Sure, there are plenty of policy objections.

Sure it is, because no rights are being denied. The protestirs are there for the spectacle, not because any actual rights have been violated. They want to make it appear to be something it’s not.

People are right to feel frustrated and exhausted and ready for a change in policy, I’ve never said otherwise. But protesting under a banner that rights are being violated? That’s nonsense.

Why do you think that is?

Agreed. It sounds more like something store-specific than a government policy, but who knows. But which gets more likes on social media:

A. Slowing down, finding out what is really the cause of the roped off area at the store, learning it may be store policy, or if not, then researching and learning it’s an actual policy of the city or state, and then addressing it via people who can do something about it, OR

B. Videoing it, refusing to learn what the cause was, blaming the government, calling for liberation, and staging a protest

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The people I know who’ve actually gone up to Augusta don’t seem to be concerned with higher-order questions of liberty and rights. Maybe some are, but one of my vendors I spoke with today is just wondering how she can keep her printing business afloat. With summer in Maine effectively cancelled, she’s missing out on all of the summer camp and related activities that everyone wants a t-shirt for. Sucks to be her, I guess. .

They want to operate their business and move on with life. Most seem perfectly willing to adopt reasonable pandemic guidelines as well. This is probably the worst thing ever to happen to Maine in living memory. I can’t think of anything that’s caused more hurt.

32 deaths and counting.

Apparently, the entire state of Maine is off-script on the tyranny of denying citizens their right to seeds.

That was never an issue in Maine. My friend who shot the video of roped-off seeds lives in northern rural Michigan.

We agree infected people should wear a mask while out in public. It seems back in Feb health officials knew it was spread presymptomatically. Perhaps the face of our fight against Covid was unaware of this information that CNN possessed.

Did he not know Italy had over 7000 cases on March 8th and had been rising daily? Did he not know other viruses are spread presymptomatically? Even the flu is spread before the emergence of symptoms. You would think an expert would be able to look at the worldwide data which showed rapid growth and extrapolate that to our country. Maybe he was lying in this March interview so people wouldn’t rush out and buy masks. Who knows.

Do you disagree with him that the unintended risk of wearing porous masks still exists?

Edited to include CNN source.

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Are you asserting that Fauci was correct in his initial assessment 2 months ago, and that with his revised position, informed by additional information and additional study and discussion, is incorrect?

I believe he was correct in his concern that people are putting too much faith in a non-surgical type of mask. If an infected person is incapable of not coughing in someone’s face, or sneezing into their hand, or on some food item in a grocery store are they likely incapable of touching their infected cloth mask and then spreading the virus to everything they touch? Are people really washing their masks after each use? Are people more sanitary because they made a mask from a YouTube video? The flu is highly contagious yet with simple precautions I can prevent myself from getting it if my wife comes down with it. It’s not as if the all the air around us is constantly filled with Covid. This is especially true outside. It’s madness that in NJ you can run on the beach but not sit in a beach chair.

I really don’t care if someone wears a mask or not. I find it strange people are married to the idea that we all should wear masks while acknowledging the recommendations have changed and could very well change again. With some, it’s as if you’re insulting their religion if you question the latest recommendation coming out of Washington.

False.

Maybe you are.

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False.

I responded just to see if I could figure out the quote function.

Edit: It appears I haven’t.

Highlight the text and click “Quote.”

Gracias.

Some, including myself, find that wearing a mask in stores and whatnot (along with proper social distancing and hygiene, limiting trips to the store, etc) are simple, easy precautions that help make society around us safer. Im young and healthy and would likely be fine if i caught it. But i DO NOT want to be responsible for spreading it to someone who gets harmed, and I want the virus tamped down quickly so the economy can reopen ASAP and people can regain their livelihoods.

Really, IMO, its about doing a number of small, easy things that have a large cumulative effect, so that we can avoid implementing those big disruptive restrictions to get that same large effect.

Wearing a mask may be the equivalent of “offering thoughts and prayers” during a tragedy. It may be completely useless. But it shows you at least care, and likely gives a moral boost showing that “we are all in this together”.

Really, i just see the downside of wearing a mask as minuscule. But the upside as likely beneficial. So the reasons folks give for not wearing a mask in stores usually rings selfish and hollow to me and many others.