I posted a while ago a news story about how Sweden is going against almost everyone else and letting people not social distance
This story i just found now:
1 Like
Why is Fox news plastering their frontpage claiming a govt lab in Wuhan is responsible for leaking the virus⊠but no other major news org has this as a headline? They better be right or that is some stupendously irresponsible journalism.
Iâm seeing Fox say suspicion of virus leaked from Wuhan lab ⊠same as NBC, NY post, bbc, etc etc
Maybe you could link to the story where fox is claiming they ARE responsible rather than suspicion?
1 Like
Iâve seen that story popping up in various news outlets lately. The claim seems to be that it wasnât human-engineerred, but patient 0 was a worker in the lab. It seems equally speculative as saying it originated in a wet market.
Who the hell knows? Except some CCP members who are unlikely to be forthcoming.
1 Like
Yeah, that doesnât compute at all. So, essentially anything lower than 99.9% isnât valuable?
Unrelated questionâwhere was your profile picture taken at?
2 Likes
Yeah, Iâm not sure how that helped them. But jury is still out since I donât know enough of the local situation or sources for statistics/lit, so I suppose weâll find out for sure down the road.
@punnyguy Abbot labs is a major player so I assume these are strong tests, although I donât know of any validation on the reliability and accuracy available to the public. 20 million is a hyuge number thoughâŠI donât know how they got the raw materials considering the tension on supply chain⊠but good for them.
I would say this is probably not what happened, but I do understand that the intelligence agencies need to work on multiple hypotheses.
I am not a fan of the reporting on this for the very same reason that I wasnât a fan of Trumpâs comments on chloroquineâidiots are bound to take this to resurrect the âlab bioweaponsâ conspiracy theory, despite it being stated that is not a hypothesis.
@Aragorn Itâs beyond hyuge, if that report is correct (might be a typo who knows), itâs 20 million tests per month.
If it wasnât a 100% major company like Abbot, even I The Optimist would be skeptical lol:
The company announced that it expects to ship close to 1 million tests this week to hospitals and labs in the U.S, and will ship a total of 4 million tests in April. By June and beyond, Abbott will be shipping 20 million tests to the U.S. per month, according to the report.
1 Like
Damn. Thatâs good news for everyone.
One of the difficulties with many of the current testing kits (reverse PCR and others, not the Abbot antibody tests mentioned) is that the reagents are in short supply, and the chain is weak as well. Which obviously means that even if you have a 100% scalable manufacturing process youâre limited to what you can get in.
Iâm glad the supply chain for these doesnât seem as downtrodden as the diagnostic tests. We need all we can get.
That was in Rumney, NH.
1 Like
AND something you wouldnât think about, @AragornâŠthe specialized swabs that it takes to get legitimate samples.The manufacturers (I think there are like two?)âŠhave their facilities going almost 24/7, and they canât keep up.
1 Like
Nice. I am unfortunately ignorant about rock climbing in NH. It looks like a crag I love in Arkansas. Horseshoe Canyon Ranch has a ton of great climbs in close proximity. Approaches generally less than 20 min on foot, less than 10 if you have the right tent site.
1 Like
True. Saw this earlier. Too small of a pool to be sure yet, but I hope more results come piling in.
Thatâs true. I didnât think about them haha. If only I owned a manufacturing plant lol
I just checked Horseshoe out on Mountainproject. Looks awesome! I dig that thereâs a lot of moderate stuff even if the grades are middle of the pack. On my âto-seeâ list for sure.
Rumney is awesome, itâs New Englands âplaygroundâ spot for sure. The crowds and approaches can be tough sometimes, and a lot of the moderate routes are graded pretty generously haha, but it can be the best place on earth on a good day imo.
To keep the thread Covid related, I was planning a trip out to Banff for a week of climbing with a couple kayaking/sightseeing rest days. Not sure how feasible thatâs going to be now. Keeping an eye on flights because theyâre a steal but who knows if thisâll level off in time.
1 Like
You really gotta do it. Go in spring or fall, because summer humidity is murder. Not sure what your lead grade is but the Titanic Boulder has just an incredibly classic arĂȘte route called âCradle of The Deepâ.
The thing about moderate routes is that they can be tons of fun and you can climb all day on them. Great for a good solid weekend of volume, even if youâre not finding or sending any projects. Will say that climbing there tends to be minimum crack, a bit juggier and less sloper heavy, but you canât deny 300 routes within 20 minutes walk. The âgoat caveâ has some cool boulder problems, great roof problem.
Crowds arenât terrible, although Iâm lucky because I started there in the very early 2000s and there was pretty much NOBODY there, canyon all to yourself and maybe 3 other groups. Itâs gotten much more popular (deservedly so) in the last 10 yearsâŠbut Iâm sad about it lol.
1 Like
We also count deaths a bit differently than other countries which skew the numbers.
For instance, we include deaths in elder care in our figures and not all other countries do. Not defending/attacking the approach, just providing some nuance for the numbers.
The âgreenâ (?) are the deaths from the elder care (about a third),
And this is a bit old now, but it seems to be playing out okay,
but I acknowledge sharing that graph cuts both ways. As a corollary from my first paragraph, not all nations are tallying up deaths in the same way and thus it follows that comparing numbers between nations is a bit iffy.
Our numbers also include people that have died, with confirmed covid-19, even if that wasnât the main cause of death. I donât remember how much lag time we allowed, there is just too much browsing history to go through for me to find it quickly, but I remember it being quite substantial. I.e., if a person has and recovers from covid-19 if they die within (I believe it was) a month then theyâll be included in the covid-19 stats.
Iâm just sharing this to share some background into what the make-up is behind our statistics.
Personally, I believe itâs not inherently meaningful to compare between nations as there are too many differences. Not only because countries are in different phases of the spread, but also because itâs really difficult for the numbers to actually convey anything meaningful. Looking at our Scandinavian neighbours for instance, there is quite a marked difference in population size and how much surface area that population is distributed across. Iâd even go so far as to say that I think itâs really hard to talk about our nation as a whole as there is an immense disrepancy between the north and south parts of the land with regards to population movement and density.
Itâs tough even to compare cities, such as Gothenburg and Stockholm. The former is a city wherein people tend to drive themselves to work, thus reducing the spread while the latter relies more heavily on public transportation which encourages the spread (at least initially, pictures now from transportation centers depict an unprecedented emptiness). How is one to evaluate the efficacy of measures in an absolute sense and not just highly heuristically when those are the realities at play? (Not looking for an answer, I just tend to express myself by formulating things as questions)
2 Likes
This is a more complete explanation. Your response suggests you are not acquainted with the idea of âveil of ignoranceâ.
There are MORE more Bangladeshis confirmed to be positive with the virus in Singapore(pop. 5.7 million) than in Bangladesh(pop. 220 million).
2 Likes