I hope the drug (or anything really) ends up being able to help. Dr. Oz even being on tv with his snake oil and pseudoscience history is beyond me. He told the Senate he was full of shit and somehow he remained on tv and popular.
It was no surprise that Dr Faucci had to correct some of this yet again and explain how science works. Dr. Oz probably knows, but doesn’t care and hasn’t for a long damn time. The only thing surprising is that he hasn’t added some bullshit extract yet and is trying to sell this himself. Give it time. “130% more coronavirus destroying!”
How are they making it worse? the stats you have show a 20
% Hospitalization rate for folks infected.
Is your point that the highly infectious virus has only infected 0.6% of the NYC population? If so, that should scare the piss out of you. that means with only 0.6% of the NYC population infected, they are overwhelmed. How do you think the hospitals will cope when that doubles to only 1.2% of the population infected?
So did I. My red flag was Dr Oz is speaking about taking something! That should be enough for anyone to turn the tv off! Or at least turn it on mute before he convinces grandma that she will beat lung cancer if she just eats a dandelion. But only this special type of dandelion extract sold by Dr Oz!
I also said it was good and I’m hopeful as with any possible thing that might be effective.
New York is probably not the state to say the media is making it worse than it actually is. Any other pick would be much better, but looking at the charts on where NY has gone in the last 8 days is insane.
It’s the same as deaths per day, or per week. The difference is, things have to be bad to measure death in minutes. I’ve heard a lot of people talking about homicides in large cities being terrible. In 2018, Chicago, AKA “Chiraq” (dumbest nickname ever, like any US city could ever be like Iraq, lol), recorded 561 homicides. That’s one less than New York just had die of coronavirus in 24 hours. Having more deaths in a day than the amount of homicides the murder capital of the country had in one year is pretty statistically significant, no? You can’t measure Chicago’s number in deaths per minutes. “One person died every 937 minutes in Chicago” is just silly. I think it’s definitely more of a ‘shock factor’ to talk about it in minutes, but no matter how you split it, 3500 people in New York dead is 500 more than died on 9/11.
I agree it’s an attention grabber more than anything else. But the chart you shared actually made me feel the opposite. If that low amount of people
The media is always going to make things scarier than the are. But right now it’s right to be pretty fearful of what our current numbers show let alone projections. Not so much fearful for my own safety (though it could be bad for me just like anyone else), but the safety of all the people who are already at risk from overwhelmed medical conditions.
Chris taking the economy discussion here and not in the other thread. Another thing that should be considered is the length of this “shutdown” effecting future ones. If this shutdown lasts say two weeks longer than we might “need” (whatever the hell these terms mean I know) but it prevents the need for a different shutdown the net economic factor will still be positive.
It’s like looking at our hesitation to begin the economic pain earlier. It may have cost us far more economic pain than we will have. We won’t ever be able to answer these things but it looks that way now. A rush to get back to normal for the sake of the economy doesn’t guarantee us that the economy will be better off in the long run. This one isn’t quite that simple.
Everyone is aware it will be better when things are back to normal. But we shouldn’t let our rush to be back to normal cloud our judgement about future economic implications from that rush.
Yes, heart disease is very significant. And that’s every 40 seconds in the entire United States combined. We’re talking one city here. Biggest city for sure, but still only 2% of the population as a sample. So 3.75x more people die if you look at 50x more people.
I’m a bit confused by this. What number would you require to die for it to be statistically significant?