Hi everyone,
You may have seen my previous thread titled “Messed myself up with SARMS and Finasteride”.
Two years on and I have made significant progress with my health. My Free Testosterone currently sits at around 450-600 pmol/L (250-750). Prolactin, Estrogen, DHT, fT3, rT3, fT4, Iron, B12, Vitamin D, etc, is all fine. Diet, lifestyle and sleep is perfect.
I have tried to be as positive as I can be in my previous thread to motivate future readers and help point them in the right direction with their recovery. However I am still dealing with some pretty serious symptoms of Low T:
Lack of morning wood,
Complete loss of spontaneous erections,
Zero libido or sex drive,
Fatigue, lethargy, low energy, etc
Anxiety, PTSD, High Cortisol, I am currently trying an SSRI which seems to be working well for this.
Erection strength is good, however sex drive is non existent, even pre SSRI
My attitude is to tread my symptoms as if Post Finasteride Syndrome does not exist.
I have waited 2 years and exhausted all options to fix this naturally. I now want to try exogenous testosterone and see how I feel. No doctor In Australia will prescribe to me at my levels so this will have to be self administered TRT.
I think it’s worth the risk to self medicate and see how I feel. If it gives me my life back, then it’s 100% worth breaking the law. Feel free to convince me otherwise.
Thinking of running:
200mg test per week
Inject EOD to manage E2
Have an AI on standby incase I get high E2 symptoms
Unfortunately I told my GP, Endocrinologist and the TRT doctor I took the SARM, so very unlikely they will prescribe me TRT given my previous history of PED use
I don’t give a fuck anymore I just want to feel good and get my life back on track.
Also forgot to mention my TSH is slightly elevated and ranges between 2.5-4.1. Again, no doc in Australia wants to treat me.
Im confident my issues are androgen related though, all of this started when I crashed my testosterone the first time, it was like a light switch and my life has never been the same.
I saw Dr Z in 2019 when my testosterone was extremely low and he prescribed me HCG.
I highly doubt he will prescribe me testosterone given my last blood test had Free T sitting at the high end of the reference range. Even though the reference ranges are total garbage, based on a sick, diseased and unoptimised population, and don’t account for receptor sensitivity to androgens.
Worth a shot with the legit route nonetheless I suppose.
I may consider running a cycle with UGL gear, see how I feel, and then see Dr Z when I hop off and my HPTA is severely suppressed. If I don’t have my symptoms ellievated while on cycle, then I can PCT with Nolva/Clomid. It’s a risk, but worth it IMO. Thoughts?
It is really hard to believe your problem is related to hormones with a good FT like that, but u still feel bad that’s the point, I remember from your other post about sarms u wrote that u were away from TV, Games, internet, porn, for how long did u stay away from these things and IF u still are and no benefits? Another question is how is your BF%, are u on any diet like fasting or keto or low calories, etc
Cheers man
Hey bro thanks for the message. I know my testosterone looks good on paper, but man I just don’t feel 100%. All I want is to feel energetic, have intensity, feel strong, and not feel lethargic and weak all the time, you know what I mean? I also miss having a sex drive, I haven’t had sex in over a year now…
It’s likely that the Finasteride has messed with my receptors leading to some sort of androgen insensitivity.
When I avoid all stimulation (TV, computer, etc), I do feel significantly better, sleep better and have more energy. I still avoid games, TV, porn, etc, it’s just not productive or conductive to thriving with your heath imo.
I have been training in the gym again, but I still feel weak, low intensity, very little stamina and strength. I couldn’t imagine working a full time job, the fatigue would ruin me.
I would say around 15-20% BF. Around 82kg at 189cm. Eat very healthy, probably 50% carbs, 30% fats, 20% protein. Sleep 8 hrs a night. No issues lifestyle wise.
I just want to try Testosterone at a decent dose and see how I feel in 2-3 months time.
If u still avoid these and no improvements then the answer should b somewhere else, do u have the complete hormonal panel just to make sure everything else is also in a good range
EDIT
Sorry I just saw on your first post everything else is good in range, that’s a trick case my friend all labs are great but u still don’t feel good, that sucks man
Cheers
Plan of attack could be something like this:
1). Freeze sperm now
2). Hop on UGL Testosterone for 3 months and see how I feel,
3). a).If I feel better on testosterone, come off with no PCT and see Dr Z for a prescription
b). If I don’t feel any better, PCT with HCG, Nolva, Clomid
Hormone panel looks very good, yet symptoms persist. Likely the Finasteride caused some degree of receptor desensitisation. Due to symptoms I am now going to try TRT and see how I feel at higher levels.
I have acquired a couple vials of UGL Sustanon 250. I know enenthate is preferred, but this is all I could get for the moment.
Plan:
200mg/week Sustanon
inject EOD
with 29G 1/2” insulin needle
Is there much merit to freezing sperm now (im24)? Or can I just add in HCG+HMG+Clomid when it comes time to conceive?
Your fsh is elevated though, I’d consider at least a sperm analysis to see how they are actually functioning in that capacity. Then you can consider if you want to store some or roll the dice with fsh &hcg in the future. If it’s marginal now, talk to a reproductive doc and probably store some, if all is well then you’ll have to make a descision.
