Last Urologist visit I got lucky. Ended up with a PA that worked in a low T clinic for years. On the way out I requested him for all future visits.
I asked if he would be willing to set me up on HCG should I decide to add it. He mentioned that the doctor usually only gives Clomid but that he would put me on either one.
It’s unlikely my wife and I will want another brat but not impossible I guess. No issues with testicular shrinkage, they are a fine size after seven months of trt.
I do however, hate the thought of my own production being shut down for years on end. Not sure if this is warranted or not. Avoiding going sterile would be good I guess. Also heard great things about the sense of well being and mood while taking.
I’m fine with the extra needle work. My insurance should cover it. Am I just asking for more headaches dialing in? Any compelling reasons why I should or shouldn’t?
Currently taking .7 ml of 200ml/mg test cyp per week in two injections and .5ml of RC Anastrozole twice per week at injection time.
Thank you.
You probably just need to try it and determine for yourself if it’s worth the extra cost and hassle. You’d probably need to check E2 after a few weeks to see if adjustments need to be made. Even with insurance, it’s going to be cheaper to go through an international pharmacy with no insurance. Having a script opens up a few more options, but is not required at the sites I’ve used.
I would add it and see how you feel. I know I for one feel much better on it. And with my insurance, I pay $6/month.
Thanks for the advice guys. I put in the call today to get the ball rolling. Just see how it goes for now.
Doneski… Doc prescribed 1ml every other day of 1000u/ml hcg IM. 
I’d like to change that to the 250ui called for in the sticky and deliver subq. I’ll be damned if I’m having any luck sorting out the dose. All the Pharmacy had was 31g. 1cc/1mL. 5/8" insulin pins. This stuff is already mixed. Please help…
I think its just 25 marks but don’t want to screw it up.
Inject 0.25 ml every other day and that will be 250 iu of HCG every other day per the sticky guideline you want to follow. Pending you are correctly stating your vial is 1000 iu/ml solution.
Thank you. I went with that.
I’m only two shots in. I’ve been noticeably less edgy, even today which is peak day from my wed. test injection. That’s all I’ve really noticed this early on.
Man those sub-q shots are nice. Can’t feel a thing.
As you can see I started HCG at the beginning of June. Not sure if it’s placebo or not but I seem to have a more stable mood since.
My doctor never gave me a diagnosis but I’m thinking Primary since I had no increase in testosterone levels after starting the HCG.
I’m wondering what if any benefits HCG offers under these circumstances. I know that LH has some roles that are not completely understood but would my boys still produce the additional hormones even if they don’t make testosterone?
I plan on continuing with it unless I learn something that says otherwise.
[quote]sweet-t wrote:
As you can see I started HCG at the beginning of June. Not sure if it’s placebo or not but I seem to have a more stable mood since.
My doctor never gave me a diagnosis but I’m thinking Primary since I had no increase in testosterone levels after starting the HCG.
I’m wondering what if any benefits HCG offers under these circumstances. I know that LH has some roles that are not completely understood but would my boys still produce the additional hormones even if they don’t make testosterone?
I plan on continuing with it unless I learn something that says otherwise. [/quote]
It might be difficult to accurately judge the contribution to TT from the testes or exogenously. In this case an orchidometer may be more useful. An orchidometer is simply a string of gradually larger testicle shaped beads labeled with the volume and compared to the isolated testicle in the scrotum. If your testicles seem to have improved in volume then it’s likely that hCG has some effect and you’re either a mix of primary/sec or secondary. If they haven’t responded then you may be right, it may be primary. If the former is the case then it is likely due to the receptor itself or some combination of messenger or DNA issue. The other beneficial hormones are simply byproducts of the same chain of events that lead to testosterone. So if they aren’t producing anything and aren’t improving in volume then they likely wont produce the other hormones like pregnenalone or progesterone either.
Bingo! Precisely the information I was looking for. Thank you.
Pre TRT my boys were extra large. After seven months of trt, not so large anymore. Plumped right up when I starting the HCG but not as big as baseline.
I’m taking 300iu eod. I wonder if more would have any benefit. I know that is already over the recommended dose.
I seem to be nonlinear all the way around. .25mg of Anastrozole per week puts my E2 under 5.1 (7.6-42.6). 140 mg of test cyp per week never takes me over 600.
Actually the recommended doses are 1000s of units however this is impractical as a maintenance dose and could lead to what many believe is desensitization of the LH receptor or to borrow from KSman’s theory of intratesticular excesses of testosterone. Short term as in a peak and hold there may be good reason to use the doses in the 1000s and then follow with the typical 250-300 EOD. If someone responds to low doses this would be unnecessary. You know what I’m going to try this on myself and see if I can get them full and hard rather than soft and moderately volumized.
In the name of science Sir!
I’ll bump it up to 500 eod and we can post results. I don’t expect e2 problems since I don’t seem to convert much at all. Might even give me a better level.
My Doctor prescribed 1k eod im. He was cool with me lowering drastically.