Conditioning/Mass Cycle for Beginner

Pharma / TRT
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Hi guys,

I’m trying to put together a cycle for my brother. I have previously used quite basic cycles such as straight dbol only or dbol, sust and deca.

His requirements are a little different:

  • He is holding a bit too much bodyfat and he’s keen to lean up a bit,

  • Would like as much muscle gain as possible but the above is priority,

  • He’d ideally like to just use one oral only if possible. He’s not set against shots but if he could get good gains on just one type of oral that’d be great,

  • He competes in a drug tested sport from time to time but probably won’t until November/December so clearance times are not a massive issue at the moment but he’d obviously want to avoid options with more than a couple of months detection time,

The options I’d thought of are:

Andriol
Anavar
Oral Winnie

Could you get away with running a cycle of just one of these? Especially since it’s his first cycle? Would he see significant gains over, say, 8 weeks?

If I were to stack with a shot I was think one of those with either:

Test Prop
Winnie
or Primobolan depot

Any thoughts on this guys?

Do you think he’d need to run nolva alongside these during the cycle? and if so which would need and which would not?

I know this is slightly OT but are there any special considerations you guys would take regarding PCT after such a cycle? I’m a little concerned with, what seems to be, a relatively long detection time for HCG and little or no info for Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin etc. Any thoughts on this also greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys.

Eric

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Would he see gains on d-bol or anadrol?? Nice question. What do you think, those are the two strongest steroids on the planet. He should lose the BF first, before he does his first cycle, this makes much more sense because then he can concentrate on growing while cycling. Also steroids seem to work better on a lean body, just a theory of mine after training bodybuilders for 15 years. I always suggest a simple test for a first cycle, the d-bol and a-drol would work also but there are so many side effects you can avoid by just using a good test at 300-500mgs a week. On a first cycle, if you eat right, your brother could put on a solid 20 pounds with a simple test w/ little sides and spend very little $.

Oh yeah, use 10mgs of noveldex or .25 arim throughout the cycle.