Not offended at all. Well, I start to believe there isn’t really 1 accurate way to measure bodyfat levels. People argue against bodypods, pinch-measurements, going by looks and pretty much any other method I heard of.
Nevertheless, getting a lean 250/260 should set me deep in the gain-territories so it seems;)
A few thoughts from an old school bulk & cut lifter…
LBM estimates at high BF% always error by assuming a cut can take place loosing fat alone. Best case a natural lifter can loose at a 3/1 ratio. Let’s assume you are correct and you are 25% @ 260 [65/195] and the goal is 240 @ 10% [24/216]. Let’s say you cut to 240 and assume a a 3/1 ratio; you’re now at 240 [50/190] @ 20%. Continue to 230 [42.5/187.5] @ 18%. Onward to 220 [35/185] @ 16%. At 210 [27.5/182.5] @ 13%. Finally at 200 [20/180] @ 10%. You have a great deal of work ahead of you. If you have ‘Top Shelf’ genetics you may even reach the 250/260 you mention; however either way you are going to have to do everything right for a number of years. I wish you the best of luck.
3/1 ratio…damn, that’s a hell lot of muscle that goes wasted!
What about a ultra slow cut? Like losing 5 lbs of fat a month?
Thank you very much for the well wishes.
Now I see 250/260 are very lofty goals, I really begin to doubt the natty-ness of almost all higher level powerlifters and strongman at ‘tested’ competitions…
There are a few NBA players who have the proportions you are talking about.
LeBron James is 6’8" and somewhere around 240-250 with very long arms and low BF. As you can see, his biceps are pathetic.
Karl Malone is 6’9" and somewhere around 250-260 during his playing days. Here he is doing some kind of sissy exercise for wimps.
Bismak Biyombo is listed at 6’9" and 245 pounds. He had a great series against Cleveland and did an excellent job defending LeBron James, probably because his biceps are way better.
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Good post. Long limbs are a bitch when getting swole, I know that. When I stand next to other guys and we ‘measure’ or arm size, I have 9/10 times the biggest arms. Although my arms look average at best when seeing me from a distance.
Weirdly enough my legs, which are long as hell, I got them operated to keep them a bit proportionate, are quite good for someone in my shape.
I find it quite funny to see that someone like Luke Rockhold appears far more ‘solid’ than LeBron, while his relative lean body mass is significantly less than LeBron’s, while there dimensions seem not too far off.
I feel your pain.
I think the 3 lbs per inch is a good measure for someone of average height. When comparing to taller or shorter lifters, the difference is more like 8-10 lbs/inch.
Lou Ferrigno was 275 lbs at the 1975 Mr. Olympia at 6’5". I’d say he has similar proportions to Froning, probably a bit bigger.
Using 8 lbs/inch in comparison to Froning, you would need to be around 280-290 lbs in similar condition to have similar proportions to Froning, I think that’s pretty accurate given given our baseline of Lou Ferigno at 275 lbs at the 1975 Olympia and given you are 3 inches taller than Ferigno.
Good estimation. After a certain height you seem to need a lot of bulk to have a comparable look. Built will play a role, and limb length definitely.
My arms and legs are LONG. Like 86’’ reach at 6’8, and my legs dwarf the reach of my arms: when throwing a left punch into low kick, I need to use a long jab to get my low kick at the right range. And then I still connect with the mid part of my shin. Most people have that when they land a hook!
Weirdly enough, I am not real lanky except for for my arms. My legs are long and lean, but pretty muscular. My shoulders are yet bony, but nevertheless broad. I kinda look like a skinny Haftor Bjornsson or Vince Urbank in terms or proportions.
Comparing in-person to photos is always sketchy but if we gave you an answer, how would you use that information?
It’s more a thing like a point to strive to. Of course, it’s just gonna be hard work to a great physique, no difference there. But it’s nice to now where on the journey I am at the moment
