College Rugby Training

Training:

Deadlift
275x3
315x3
335x10 PR

lunges 5x10, side bends 3x10 each way

110 yard sprintsx6 with 45 seconds rest

Today was my first day training in almost a week. I had a minor injury to my hand, basically my middle finger got bent back the wrong way, and as a result I couldn’t exert any pressure with a closed hand (think grip strength), so I had to take a few days off. My hand still has a little bit of pain, but luckily it didn’t effect my deadlifting today, so I should be good to go for everything else.

Today’s Training:

Bench
175x5
195x3
215x6 (this beats my previous 215x4)

50 reps of chest supported rows, 3 sets of ez-bar curls and rope pushdowns

110 yard sprintsx6 with 45 seconds rest

Training:

Squat
215x5
235x3
265x6 (beats previous 265x5)
285x1 (very easy)

50 GHRs, 3 sets of ab wheel

3 sets of this complex, with 1 minute rest:

10 RDLs, 10 Bent rows, 10 hang cleans, 10 push presses, 10 squats

I’ve decided to utlize the 5/3/1 for powerlifting setup, it went well today. The single was very easy, I could have done 3 or 4 reps. It was raining outside, so I couldn’t do my normal sprints. I decided to try out a complex, as I’ve never really done it before. It KILLED me. Even with just a measly 65 pounds, I was dying. This seems to be a good alternative to my sprinting during bad weather.

Today’s Training:

Press
95x5
105x3
115x7 (kept one in the tank)

125x1 (not bad, a bit slow out of the bottom)

50 chins, 3 sets of lateral raises and shrugs

110 yard sprintsx6, 45 seconds rest

Today went well. I feel like 115x7 was a PR for the weight, but I don’t feel like looking through old notebooks to find out. The single wasn’t bad, it was a little slow and wobbly out of the bottom, but once I get to weight thats somewhat heavy, this always happens. It’s only the first rep too, reps after that first one are fine. IDK why this is like this, but I’m not sweating it too much, bc 125 was were I had to reset last time, and it was easy today. Conditioning was hard as hell, but I’m guessing this is because my hamstrings were still very sore from squatting the other day.

Training:

Deadlift
275x5
315x3
355x5 (not bad, hamstrings/lower back were dead)
375x1 (not bad considering)

Power squat 5x10, 3 sets of side bends, 2 sets of 4-way neck

110 yard sprintsx6, 45 seconds rest

Hamstrings were still a bit sore, body was just kinda beat up in general, but I still had a good session. I’m just ready for this deload. I tried out the power squat machine today, and didn’t really like it, so I’m still trying to find a good movement for quads on my deadlift day. I’ll figure it out eventually. Conditioning went a lot better today, I was able to run more relaxed.

Deload training:

squat
115x5
145x5
165x5

bench
95x5
115x5
135x5

chest supported rows, machine crunches, lateral raises all 3x20

110sx6

Training update:

I’ve decided to switch it up a little bit. I’ve been getting the bug to do some full body work lately, so I read up on the various 5x5 programs out there (they’re all 90% the same) and came up with this:

A- squat 5x5, bench 5x5, barbell row 5x5, abs

B- deadlift 5x5, press 5x5, chins 3x8, lateral raises and curls

For the 5x5 exercises, the first 2 sets are warmups (except deadlift, where only the last set is a work set). When I can get 3x5, I’ll increase the weight 5 pounds. I’m gonna start a little light, to give myself some momentum. I’m gonna start very light on the barbell rows, because I haven’t done these in forever.

Im excited, stay tuned.

Today’s Training:

Squat
225x3x5

Bench
185x3x5

Barbell Row
115x3x5

Ab wheel and 4 way neck

Ran a mile @6.7mph

Today wasn’t bad. I’ve done 225 and 185 for 10-12 reps before, but doing it for 3 sets is definitely harder. Since I got all 3x5 I’ll up the weight. The barbell rows were increadibly easy, and it felt pretty natural considering that I haven’t done them in years. Conditioning went well too.

Training:

Deadlift
315x5

Press
95 3x5

Chins
BW 10lbs 3x5

Curls and lateral raises, 2 quick sets of 10

Ran a mile at 6.8 mph

Great training day today. Deadlift and especially Press were easy. Today was the first time I’ve ever done weighted chins. It felt a little akward but it wasn’t too difficult. Since this lift uses such a small amount of weight, I’m only going to add 2.5 pounds each time I hit 3x5. Conditioning went very well today. Ready to beat my numbers on friday.

Good to see more and more Americans playing rugby! I played a summer season in Colorado a few years ago between my club season over here.

Good to see the 5/3/1 producing more and more results, I like using it with my training and the team I coach.

I’d echo a previous posters comments about dynamism and athleticism being key for your position, the best forwards are those who dominate the contact area and ball carry hard.

Few things to consider for your training. I’d change Press to Push Press to add another angle of dynamic training. I’d also focus more on short sprints (50m or less) for your conditioning, but adding in hitting and getting off the deck as quickly as possible.

Look at adding bear crawls into your warm up, these have revolutionized the way my team and I hit rucks as the lower you can get a keep moving the better!

Keep up the good work dude, happy to answer any questions as well!

[quote]frontrow12 wrote:
Good to see more and more Americans playing rugby! I played a summer season in Colorado a few years ago between my club season over here.

Good to see the 5/3/1 producing more and more results, I like using it with my training and the team I coach.

I’d echo a previous posters comments about dynamism and athleticism being key for your position, the best forwards are those who dominate the contact area and ball carry hard.

Few things to consider for your training. I’d change Press to Push Press to add another angle of dynamic training. I’d also focus more on short sprints (50m or less) for your conditioning, but adding in hitting and getting off the deck as quickly as possible.

Look at adding bear crawls into your warm up, these have revolutionized the way my team and I hit rucks as the lower you can get a keep moving the better!

Keep up the good work dude, happy to answer any questions as well![/quote]

Thanks for stopping in, us rugby guys are few and far between in the states (90,000 players as compared to 1.2 million high school football players alone), but thankfully it’s growing and gaining more visibility. It was the fastest growing sport in the states over the past 5 years.

As far as training, I gave the push press a go, but it didn’t work too well for me. I kept getting stuck at the same point over and over again. When I switched back to a strict press, I saw my numbers continue to rise.

I’ve always been a pretty good ball carrier since I picked up the game, as well as faster then most of the fowards I play against. I’ve been told I could be a back if there wasn’t a shortage of big guys. My problem has been needing more size and strength to hang with the big teams, so that’s where my focus is.

As far as conditioning, this has been my biggest weakness since I picked up the game. When I played high school football, our conditioning focus was based around short sprints, and I got pretty decent at them. When I came to rugby, I had horrible aerobic shape. I couldn’t run continously for 5 minutes!

Now I can actually run a mile faster then a snail, and it showed in my last season. I scored twice, including a 60m run straight up the gut untouched. I never even scored in high school football. Also, when my team starts practice, we do a ridiculous amount of sprints, so I know I can get my “sprinting condition” back pretty quickly.

Just curious, what kind of level do you play over there? When you came to the states, did you just dominate? I’ve heard that us americans have good physicality, but we seriously lack in ball handling and strategy. Do you have an opinion on that, since you played here?

Why did you switch your program when you were making PRs every session?

If you could get yourself up to around 230 - 240 you’d be at a good weight foback row/lock!

I play semi-pro over here, which essentially means we get paid for playing but have jobs as well. I’m just lucky my job is also in rugby coaching/development!

When I can over I was only 19 but yeah I found the skill level and game management of the Americans to be behind their physicality. I play prop or hooker here but I ended up playing 7 when I was over there. My team did have a lot of foreigners though. Irish, Kenyan, SAfricans etc.

Loved my time in CO though, think about it every day at least once!

[quote]mmatt wrote:
Why did you switch your program when you were making PRs every session?[/quote]

Just another way to skin the cat. I don’t think that my time with 5/3/1 was unsuccessful, I just wanted to switch things up after lifting for higher reps for so long.

My plan is to stick with this setup for a while (probably through this upcoming season) and then switch to one of the 5/3/1 full body templates Jim laid out in the second edition.

[quote]frontrow12 wrote:
If you could get yourself up to around 230 - 240 you’d be at a good weight foback row/lock!

I play semi-pro over here, which essentially means we get paid for playing but have jobs as well. I’m just lucky my job is also in rugby coaching/development!

When I can over I was only 19 but yeah I found the skill level and game management of the Americans to be behind their physicality. I play prop or hooker here but I ended up playing 7 when I was over there. My team did have a lot of foreigners though. Irish, Kenyan, SAfricans etc.

Loved my time in CO though, think about it every day at least once![/quote]

I’ve played a lot of second row, as well as flanker. I weighed around 210-215 last season, and so far I’m up to 220. I’d love to get up to 240-250 and still be fast.

How much is the money? Is it like having a part time job as far as pay?

When I’ve been able to watch internation teams (which is hardly ever, rugby doesn’t get on tv here) it’s always looked like a completely different game compared to what I see teams here doing. Luckily a couple of my coaches have played for a long time oversees.

About $600 - $700 per month I’d say. Some teams pay more, some pay less.

[quote]frontrow12 wrote:
About $600 - $700 per month I’d say. Some teams pay more, some pay less.

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Nice. I wish americans would get on board with the rest of the world. Over here, rugby isn’t a NCAA sport (the governing body for college athletics). So universities classify it as a “club sport”. They give us a field to play on (though we have to share it with every other damn thing at the school, even soriority flag football), some equipment (balls and water bottles), jerseys, and if we travel out of the state, they give us 2 or 3 vans and gas.

Coaches aren’t paid, no scholarships, we have to drive ourselves to in state games, we have to buy our own cleats, we have to pay dues twice a year to play, as a team we all chip in and buy team shorts, socks, and duffle bags.

[quote]mmatt wrote:
Why did you switch your program when you were making PRs every session?[/quote]

You know, I’ve been thinking about your post. Every now and then (a couple times a year) I get the urge to go out an try something else. Last time it was the Juggernaut method.

This time I wasn’t really craving a 5x5 program, but more a full body program. So I’ve been thinking, and reading up on the full body stuff that Jim has written about, and I’m going to go with that.

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]mmatt wrote:
Why did you switch your program when you were making PRs every session?[/quote]

You know, I’ve been thinking about your post. Every now and then (a couple times a year) I get the urge to go out an try something else. Last time it was the Juggernaut method.

This time I wasn’t really craving a 5x5 program, but more a full body program. So I’ve been thinking, and reading up on the full body stuff that Jim has written about, and I’m going to go with that.[/quote]

I used to do this as well. When I stopped worrying about programs and just concerned myself with my training philosophy, things improved.

[quote]mmatt wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]mmatt wrote:
Why did you switch your program when you were making PRs every session?[/quote]

You know, I’ve been thinking about your post. Every now and then (a couple times a year) I get the urge to go out an try something else. Last time it was the Juggernaut method.

This time I wasn’t really craving a 5x5 program, but more a full body program. So I’ve been thinking, and reading up on the full body stuff that Jim has written about, and I’m going to go with that.[/quote]

I used to do this as well. When I stopped worrying about programs and just concerned myself with my training philosophy, things improved. [/quote]

I’ve been getting a lot better about it lately. When I first started lifting on my own it was a lot worse. Thanks for your post.