I just get angry at the arrogant attitudes of the academics sometimes; and the way people elevate what they do above these guys just because it is more…well…“academic”?
It’s all about what interest a person and what they are good at.
These guys have the inherent ability to learn and memorize some complex stuff (playbooks/schemes/coverages etc.)…so this is not some inherent, Neanderthal stupidity here. Its just happens to be where many of them have placed their Life focus (for better or worse).
Hey…the degree would give them SOMETHING, right?
At 10% graduation rates, a lot of these guys are leaving these schools with a bum knee or shoulder; a jersey; a pair of underwear and a cap; and a one-way ticket home (if that).
[quote]Game_over wrote:
im an OSU fan, i think i come close…[/quote]
I don’t know, I’m an ACC fan that lives in the heart of the SEC. All I hear is if you don’t play in the SEC you are playing high school football. The worst are the fans of the crapy SEC teams (yes there are bad teams in the SEC). They tend to brag even more about their conference, because their teams suck. It goes something like, me: “we beat 3 teams that beat yall last year”, them : “oh yeah, well we are in the SEC, so we were beat up because our conference is harder”. Great, now I’m mad just thinking about it.
If I had to make a group of four teams from one conference to put up against four teams from every other conference, I would definitely pick the SEC as my conference. Keep in mind that I say this when my two favorite teams are (1) the USC Trojans and (2) the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
But while I think the SEC is the best conference in college football at the moment, I don’t think they are in a league of their own. It is just that no other conference has had several dominant teams at the top like the SEC has had with LSU, Florida, Georgia, etc. the past few years. (The Big 12 comes closest and may even trump the SEC this year when you consider OU, Missouri, Texas, and now Texas Tech.)
What is crazy about the SEC is that, aside from featuring 3 or 4 dominant teams every year, the rivalries in that conference are intense. Moreover, some of those stadiums are the hardest stadiums to play in on the road. The Swamp and Death Valley are examples. As such, on any given Saturday virtually any team in the SEC can beat any other team. You don’t see that in other conferences as often as you do in the SEC. IMO, all of this makes the SEC the toughest conference to play in.
[quote]eic wrote:
If I had to make a group of four teams from one conference to put up against four teams from every other conference, I would definitely pick the SEC as my conference. Keep in mind that I say this when my two favorite teams are (1) the USC Trojans and (2) the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
But while I think the SEC is the best conference in college football at the moment, I don’t think they are in a league of their own. It is just that no other conference has had several dominant teams at the top like the SEC has had with LSU, Florida, Georgia, etc. the past few years. (The Big 12 comes closest and may even trump the SEC this year when you consider OU, Missouri, Texas, and now Texas Tech.)
What is crazy about the SEC is that, aside from featuring 3 or 4 dominant teams every year, the rivalries in that conference are intense. Moreover, some of those stadiums are the hardest stadiums to play in on the road. The Swamp and Death Valley are examples. As such, on any given Saturday virtually any team in the SEC can beat any other team. You don’t see that in other conferences as often as you do in the SEC. IMO, all of this makes the SEC the toughest conference to play in. [/quote]
I’m not disagreeing that the SEC is the best conference, just the fans that think the SEC is God’s gift to football. I also disagree that the SEC is even. I think that the fact that they seem to produce 3 or 4 dominant teams every year, and still have teams like MSU, Ole Miss, Vandy, and even Alabama is proof of that. (My team plays MSU this year so this comment might come back to haunt me) I�??ve always thought they were an uneven conference.
They are no Penn State (in terms of Linebackers); but they seem to always put out a fast, hard-hitting Crew that is usually fun to watch.
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Definitely. Except for Georgia last year (and this year,) as a UF fan Auburn is one of the games I get the most nervous about before we play. To be totally honest, they’re usually not quite as gifted, but damn do they play great games against Florida.
[quote]eic wrote:
If I had to make a group of four teams from one conference to put up against four teams from every other conference, I would definitely pick the SEC as my conference. Keep in mind that I say this when my two favorite teams are (1) the USC Trojans and (2) the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
But while I think the SEC is the best conference in college football at the moment, I don’t think they are in a league of their own. It is just that no other conference has had several dominant teams at the top like the SEC has had with LSU, Florida, Georgia, etc. the past few years. (The Big 12 comes closest and may even trump the SEC this year when you consider OU, Missouri, Texas, and now Texas Tech.)
What is crazy about the SEC is that, aside from featuring 3 or 4 dominant teams every year, the rivalries in that conference are intense. Moreover, some of those stadiums are the hardest stadiums to play in on the road. The Swamp and Death Valley are examples. As such, on any given Saturday virtually any team in the SEC can beat any other team. You don’t see that in other conferences as often as you do in the SEC. IMO, all of this makes the SEC the toughest conference to play in. [/quote]
I think you bring up great reasons why the SEC is year-in-and-out considered the best overall conference. When play out of conference games, like say a bowl game, they don’t always dominate like predicted, but playing in some of those stadiums when those teams do bring their A-teams is an event in itself. I’m practically physically tired by the time I’m done watching big-time SEC games.
I think you bring up great reasons why the SEC is year-in-and-out considered the best overall conference. When play out of conference games, like say a bowl game, they don’t always dominate like predicted, but playing in some of those stadiums when those teams do bring their A-teams is an event in itself. I’m practically physically tired by the time I’m done watching big-time SEC games.[/quote]
Exactly. The SEC has its stinkers (Vandy, Mississippi St.), but virtually every SEC match-up feels like one of the premier rivalries in any other conference. Take Florida, for example. The poor team has rivalry games with FSU, Miami, Georgia, LSU, and on and on.
Having said all that, I agree that this does not make the SEC God’s gift to football. It is the best conference, but not by the leaps and bounds that SEC fans would have you think. In my opinion, a team like Oklahoma or USC would still perform in the SEC environment.
I think you bring up great reasons why the SEC is year-in-and-out considered the best overall conference. When play out of conference games, like say a bowl game, they don’t always dominate like predicted, but playing in some of those stadiums when those teams do bring their A-teams is an event in itself. I’m practically physically tired by the time I’m done watching big-time SEC games.
Exactly. The SEC has its stinkers (Vandy, Mississippi St.), but virtually every SEC match-up feels like one of the premier rivalries in any other conference. Take Florida, for example. The poor team has rivalry games with FSU, Miami, Georgia, LSU, and on and on.
Having said all that, I agree that this does not make the SEC God’s gift to football. It is the best conference, but not by the leaps and bounds that SEC fans would have you think. In my opinion, a team like Oklahoma or USC would still perform in the SEC environment. [/quote]
Thanks for bring up a couple ACC teams as tuff competition for Florida, even though FSU and Miami have sucked the past couple of years.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
If it’s ever going to happen for the Red Raiders of Texas Tech - it’s going to be this year.
We finally have some degree of defense. We haven’t had a defense since Spkie Dikes was the coach.
Crabtree should be leaving for the NFL after this season.
If we can get by UT-Norman and the t-sippers both - we will be in a BCS bowl.
The huskers still have a year or two before they are any good. [/quote]
Agree all around. I hope that the “system” BS doesn’t stop Graham or Crabtree from being serious Heisman contenders. I can’t stand that shit.
My 8-4 prediction for the Huskers is based largely on the fact that the schedule is very favorable this year. Virginia Tech has been decimated by injuries and suspensions. That team is depleted. Consider also that the Huskers had a pretty good offense last year, and Ganz is very good. I think that the Huskers are a little underrated. Unfortunately, the South is stacked this year with OU, Tech, and Texas, and Missouri is peaking.
[quote]AssClown wrote:
Cal fan but I find myself caring lessa about that school every few hours. How the hell did they throw away all those games at the end? A damn nose dive from #2. I root for Mississippi State because I have a lot of ties to that school but I like most all SEC teams and live for that conference (wish I was good enough to play in that conference).
State’s returning one of the best secondaries in college football next year, and a beast of a running back (who, to support Bauer97, is, according to an athletic trainer I know who did his grad work at State, dumb as all fuck), D-Line is decent and some decent receivers but jack shit at QB.[/quote]
Did you happen to make it to Ft Worth for Cal’s bowl game? I wonder how the Cal fans who made the trip liked their stay in Ft Worth. I pondered going to that game, and also Bama was in Shreveport the night before, but my then employer decided to be open new years eve day.
The Big-10 and the PAC-10 are a distant 4th and 5th behind the ACC, SEC, and Big-12.
Just because they have the power of the press does not make the Big-10 and PAC-10 any better - just more visible. [/quote]
Well good thing the formula uses actual numbers and stats. The only thing the “power of press” could have helped with in the article’s formula is final AP placing.
