College Football

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[quote]mahwah wrote:
Oh, and as for the BCS, it would at least be a step in the right direction to have ALL the conferences have a championship game in some form or fashion.[/quote]

I think that would make it more fair, just because everyone would have to do it. However, does that mean everyone gets in that wins their title game, is everyone out that loses?

Wasn’t it Oklahoma that went undefeated regular season, lost their title game, then still played for the national title a few years back? I think conference title games can muddy the water as much as clear it.

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Well, like UGA learned last year, you need to be a conference champ to be a nat’l champ.

I think that is fair.

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so beanie wells is quite possibly going to be the best running back to EVER come out of Ohio State, and definitely best in the NCAA this year. which if you know anything about former OSU running backs, is no small feat. Last year was supposed to be a rebuilding year and OSU winded up in the 'ship because of quite possibly the WILDEST 2-3 weeks in BCS history. IMO everyone else besides OSU is an underdog in the BIG TEN.

IMO im just as sick and tired about hearing about the Rich Rodriguez story as i am about Farve’s bullshit. Come Nov. 22nd all those that bleed blue and maise will bow to scarlet and gray once again, and rich rodriguez will have proved that hes not the savior hes believed to be.

now although ive been very one-sided here, i hope USC has there starting QB back and healthy before the game, that way there are no excuses, Plus i believe this could be an amazing game USC are no slouches when it comes to defense and im definitely looking forward to it.

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I’m sorry but Ohio State and the rest of the Big 10 are all underdogs in the BCS. Until the kids from Florida, Georgia, Bama and Texas who come out of high school start liking cold weather, the teams up north may make it to the Championship game but they won’t ever consistently be on par with the Southern based schools.

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.

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The word “Speed” in the SEC is DEFINITLY an inadequate word!

I saw a couple of LSU games last year where it looked like the linebackers of the opposing Team were reacting in slow motion! By the time they did make a move, the LSU running backs were juking guys in the secondary.

Florida is pretty unique also. SOME feel that Florida now surpasses Texas in producing the greatest number of quality Football players (with Alabama and Georgia a close second).

Urban Myer has been quoted as saying that he really doesn’t have to leave the South, (or even Florida!) to recruit.

Mufasa

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It happens with high school baseball players too. Why would they want to leave warm weather? They can play their respective sport all year long and have that much better of a chance to get paid to play.

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Let’s GO Mountaineers!!

I’ve been pretty happy with WVU the last few years and hope for another good season. Might even book a flight home if we go to a Bowl game this year.

As far as ol’ Dick Rod…I hate that son of a bitch. I don’t blame anyone looking for the next step in their career, but the way he played that situation was dirty as fuck.

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[quote]tg2hbk4488 wrote:
JoePa will take out Bowdens record this year
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We actually have a pool on who would retire first…Favre or JoePa…Bets were off for a while.

I now say JoePa after this season calls it quits, with Favre going this year and next.

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[quote]stew2310 wrote:

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.[/quote]

Since when can you not play football in cold weather? I could have sworn it was a Winter sport…

I think players from the South stay down there because that’s where they’re from. So, the warm-weather schools keep ALL of their home-grown talent, plus they bring in some talent from other States who are lured to those schools by warm weather, hotter females, and bullshit academic standards.

Not debating the talent of Southern schools (I think it’s fairly undeniable), but I don’t think ‘being able to play year-round’ has anything to do with it.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
stew2310 wrote:

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.

Since when can you not play football in cold weather? I could have sworn it was a Winter sport…

I think players from the South stay down there because that’s where they’re from. So, the warm-weather schools keep ALL of their home-grown talent, plus they bring in some talent from other States who are lured to those schools by warm weather, hotter females, and bullshit academic standards.

Not debating the talent of Southern schools (I think it’s fairly undeniable), but I don’t think ‘being able to play year-round’ has anything to do with it. [/quote]

Wait, you’re saying schools outside the south have high academic standards for football players?

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
stew2310 wrote:

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.

Since when can you not play football in cold weather? I could have sworn it was a Winter sport…

I think players from the South stay down there because that’s where they’re from. So, the warm-weather schools keep ALL of their home-grown talent, plus they bring in some talent from other States who are lured to those schools by warm weather, hotter females, and bullshit academic standards.

Not debating the talent of Southern schools (I think it’s fairly undeniable), but I don’t think ‘being able to play year-round’ has anything to do with it. [/quote]

Thats my point, these kids can be out on the field working on whatever they need to be working on in February. There aren’t that many places up north where one would want to be outside running routes in Feb. Football is a winter sport up here, down south its a year round sport. Why play in the snow when they can stay right where the are and play in 70 degree weather.

College football has lost a lot of parity, and location amongst many other things is the reason the same 10 schools are usually the top programs. One could agrue that Ohio State is a top 10 program, and I agree but they get their ass smacked every year in the National title to a school from down South.

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stew:

The South can get pretty damn cold in the winter!

Mufasa

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Well when it gets upstate NY or Minnesota cold let me know, there is a huge difference between 40 and -5.

I know its not always 70 and sunny, but my point is this; schools that are located down south have a distinct recruiting advantage over schools up north, for many reasons but weather is certainly one of them. Plus bauer is right the girls down south are so much cuter down there.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
stew2310 wrote:

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.

Since when can you not play football in cold weather? I could have sworn it was a Winter sport…

I think players from the South stay down there because that’s where they’re from. So, the warm-weather schools keep ALL of their home-grown talent, plus they bring in some talent from other States who are lured to those schools by warm weather, hotter females, and bullshit academic standards.

Not debating the talent of Southern schools (I think it’s fairly undeniable), but I don’t think ‘being able to play year-round’ has anything to do with it.

Wait, you’re saying schools outside the south have high academic standards for football players?[/quote]

“High” or ‘highER’?

I’m not sure any schools outside of the Ivy League could truly be considered to have “high” academic standards for their football players (or any scholarship athletes, for that matter).

However, a look at the graduation rates of Southern schools vs. Northern schools shows quite a discrepancy. And no, it’s not because Southern schools are sending all their kids to the NFL.

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[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
tg2hbk4488 wrote:
JoePa will take out Bowdens record this year

We actually have a pool on who would retire first…Favre or JoePa…Bets were off for a while.

I now say JoePa after this season calls it quits, with Favre going this year and next.[/quote]

I’d re-think that bet, if I were you.

Paterno is institutionalized. He doesn’t know what else to do with himself, Penn State football is all he knows.

He’ll either die on the sideline, or from an illness acquired from being on the sideline at some November game in East Lansing.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
stew2310 wrote:

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.

Since when can you not play football in cold weather? I could have sworn it was a Winter sport…

I think players from the South stay down there because that’s where they’re from. So, the warm-weather schools keep ALL of their home-grown talent, plus they bring in some talent from other States who are lured to those schools by warm weather, hotter females, and bullshit academic standards.

Not debating the talent of Southern schools (I think it’s fairly undeniable), but I don’t think ‘being able to play year-round’ has anything to do with it.

Wait, you’re saying schools outside the south have high academic standards for football players?

“High” or ‘highER’?

I’m not sure any schools outside of the Ivy League could truly be considered to have “high” academic standards for their football players (or any scholarship athletes, for that matter).

However, a look at the graduation rates of Southern schools vs. Northern schools shows quite a discrepancy. And no, it’s not because Southern schools are sending all their kids to the NFL.[/quote]

Why do you think the reason that this is true? I am not asking to be a smart ass, I’m asking b/c I wouldn’t think it is even a football issue.

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I think most (not all) schools coddle their football players, financially as well as academically. I wonder if there is a correlation between “loaned” cars and football prominence.

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I hope Beanie and OSU are ready for some of this:

and this:

Either way, its going to be a classic.

Maybe some T-Nation tailgate is in order…

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[quote]stew2310 wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
stew2310 wrote:

Kids from down south play all year round and hate cold weather that is why LSU, Texas, Georgia, Florida, the U, USC, and all the those southern teams are the best programs year in and year out. Speed kills in college ball, and all the speed is staying down south.

Since when can you not play football in cold weather? I could have sworn it was a Winter sport…

I think players from the South stay down there because that’s where they’re from. So, the warm-weather schools keep ALL of their home-grown talent, plus they bring in some talent from other States who are lured to those schools by warm weather, hotter females, and bullshit academic standards.

Not debating the talent of Southern schools (I think it’s fairly undeniable), but I don’t think ‘being able to play year-round’ has anything to do with it.

Wait, you’re saying schools outside the south have high academic standards for football players?

“High” or ‘highER’?

I’m not sure any schools outside of the Ivy League could truly be considered to have “high” academic standards for their football players (or any scholarship athletes, for that matter).

However, a look at the graduation rates of Southern schools vs. Northern schools shows quite a discrepancy. And no, it’s not because Southern schools are sending all their kids to the NFL.

Why do you think the reason that this is true? I am not asking to be a smart ass, I’m asking b/c I wouldn’t think it is even a football issue.
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Why do I think that a majority of Southern schools have significantly lower graduation rates than Northern?

I’d probably have to say it’s because the South is rabid about their College football. They win at any cost, and if that means keeping your most talented athletes academically eligible through shady tactics, even if they’re too dumb to ever graduate, then so be it.

I’m not sure what you mean by “I wouldn’t think it is even a football issue.”

Academics have almost nothing to do with what happens on the field, unless someone is academically ineligible to play.

However, when LSU and Auburn are graduating 7-9% of their players, and Penn State and Northwestern are graduating between 85-95% of their players, that’s a significant difference, and obviously more academic pressure is being put on the Northern school athletes than the South.

Does this make any difference to your average College football fan? No, and I’m not really sure why it would. You want to see your team win, regardless of whether your linebacker can spell the word “blitz” or not.

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All good points but PSU and Northwestern are renowned for their academics. Which is why schools like that are having a harder time putting a perennial power on the field. Its all about the money to the schools like LSU, Florida, etc. They don’t see student athletes they see dollar signs, which is why they allow the kid who runs a 4.2 40 stay eligible even though he can’t spell blitz! That is what I mean by not a football issue, its an economic issue.