[quote]Mufasa wrote:
ECU and BYU have to be considered the most probable “BCS Busters” at this point in the season.
Ohio State is getting spanked by USC as I type this.
Mufasa[/quote]
TCU has yet to get mentioned as a BCS Buster. They have a date w/ OU in 2 weeks that should be quite telling. We’ve beaten OU the last 2 times we’ve played in Norman. OU plays UT the next week.
TCU is definitely worthy of being a BCS buster. People might be hesitant to mention them near the top because they have a tough road to get there. Their schedule still includes the Oklahoma game, as you mentioned, as well as a home game against BYU and an away game at Utah. But I do agree with you. If they come away unscathed, they should be playing in a BCS game.
[quote]Geebus wrote:
TCU is definitely worthy of being a BCS buster. People might be hesitant to mention them near the top because they have a tough road to get there. Their schedule still includes the Oklahoma game, as you mentioned, as well as a home game against BYU and an away game at Utah. But I do agree with you. If they come away unscathed, they should be playing in a BCS game.[/quote]
Eh… TCU has seen much better days in the last few years. I know they started the season ranked last year but things deflated quickly. I agree that they’re usually a team to keep an eye on, but there’s too much other talent (BYU/ECU/USF/FSU) that are all making a strong push to be the next BCS busters.
Is there anyone in the world left who thinks that the Pac-10 and the Big-10 should be considered BCS conferences?
Big-10 sucks donkey balls from top to bottom.
Pac-10 has USC. After that, they are second in line for chowing on mule nuts.
Meanwhile the Big 12-South alone has half of it’s members in the top 12, and the North has Mizzou and Kansas in the top 13 as well.
Out of the AP top 15, 10 of the schools are either Big-12, or SEC schools.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Geebus wrote:
TCU is definitely worthy of being a BCS buster. People might be hesitant to mention them near the top because they have a tough road to get there. Their schedule still includes the Oklahoma game, as you mentioned, as well as a home game against BYU and an away game at Utah. But I do agree with you. If they come away unscathed, they should be playing in a BCS game.
Eh… TCU has seen much better days in the last few years. I know they started the season ranked last year but things deflated quickly. I agree that they’re usually a team to keep an eye on, but there’s too much other talent (BYU/ECU/USF/FSU) that are all making a strong push to be the next BCS busters.[/quote]
As of right now, I do think ECU is the favorite. After ECU, the teams with the best chance have to be BYU, Utah, and TCU. FSU was just eliminated from the BCS hunt, and USF doesn’t have to worry about busting the BCS because they are in the Big East.
How about the MWC beating 4 Pac-10 teams? That should earn the conference some respect.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Out of the AP top 15, 10 of the schools are either Big-12, or SEC schools.
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With out a doubt the SEC and Big 12 are head and shoulders above all the other BCS conferences in over all conference strength.
If the season continues along this course, it will be a shame the teams in those conferences that do not get their “just” bowl contests.
I am just glad the ACC didn’t look all that bad this past weekend (Maryland beating Cal, UNC beatin the hell outta Rutgers, Duke actually winning two games so far this year saturday against Navy, but UVA ruined it for the conference getting waxed 45-10)
Anybody see the end to the UNLV/ASU game? How in the hell did that happen? I’m guessin ASU was lookin ahead to hostin UGA next week but anytime you lose to UNLV it is never good
Couple of thoughts here:
I hope to God that this finally put a nail in the coffin of OSU. It is like Notre Dame a couple years ago. The entire country knew that ND was shit except for (1) ND fans and (2) the BCS. After getting repeatedly spanked out of their BCS bowls, the country finally accepted that ND sucks. OSU followed a similar path, wherein the entire country knew that OSU sucked except for (1) OSU fans and (2) the BCS. I hope now that everyone accepts that they are not a legitimate team and that the Big 10 is not currently a legitimate conference. My only fear is that Buckeye fans will pull the, “But what if Beanie had played?” BS. I shudder just thinking about it . . .
Regarding the conferences, I say give it some time. I actually have not been that impressed with the SEC thus far. Anybody who watched the Florida-Miami game knows that Miami was one big play away from pulling that upset. No. 2 Georgia manages a single touchdown against a South Carolina team that basically shot itself in the foot repeatedly? No. 9 Auburn manages just a field goal against Miss. St.? Tennessee loses to what is apparently an awful UCLA team? IMO, Florida is a better team than Georgia and will prevail in the SEC. I’m not sure how many others deserve to be in the top 10.
I think the Big 12 is unusually strong this year. Mizzou and Oklahoma are both top-4 teams, IMO. In fact, OU ought to jump Georgia for #2. Not sure about Texas yet. Kansas has been exposed for the overrated team that they are. (BTW, 5’11" and 200 lbs. for Todd Reesing? My ass. He is 5’9" and 185 if he’s lucky.) I expect KU to have at least 3 more losses (OU, Texas, Mizzou) and potentially 2 more (Nebraska, TT). Tech is also good and I expect Nebraska to crack into the top 25 after they beat Va. Tech.
[quote]eic wrote:
2) Regarding the conferences, I say give it some time. I actually have not been that impressed with the SEC thus far. Anybody who watched the Florida-Miami game knows that Miami was one big play away from pulling that upset. No. 2 Georgia manages a single touchdown against a South Carolina team that basically shot itself in the foot repeatedly? No. 9 Auburn manages just a field goal against Miss. St.? Tennessee loses to what is apparently an awful UCLA team? IMO, Florida is a better team than Georgia and will prevail in the SEC. I’m not sure how many others deserve to be in the top 10.
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While I agree the SEC has looked a little softer than I expected this year, as a Florida fan I’ll admit that under Urban Meyer they tend to play with the level of their opponenet, instead of unleashing a barrage of weapons. I like Urban Meyer fine, but his playcalling becomes WAY too conservative when they take the lead.
And Rainjack, I don’t think anyone who actually knows anything about college football doubts how underrated the Big 12 actually is. The weakness of the Pac-10 and Big 10 are finally starting to get exposed thankfully.
You guys are the best!
The ACC
Again; they keep hoping for that “year” when as a conference, they come out of the shadow of Basketball. I agree with Rocker. The ACC is looking pretty good so far; and as I stated, that UNC spanking of Rutgers really caught a lot of people off guard.(Including me!)
SEC/Big 12
The scary thing about the SEC is that the three “weakest” teams; Vandy, 'Ole Miss and Miss State are playing some hard, tough ball. This conference is starting to get even scarier in its depth.
The PROBLEM is that the SEC’s strength ends up being why at least 2-3 of its schools get screwed for a title shot each year as they being to knock each other off. Yes; they do have a championship game based on conference standings; but each year they will end up with 2-3 teams that can beat anyone in the country on any given day.
DITTO (as above) for the Big 12 as that Conference gets stronger and stronger from the bottom up.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
You guys are the best!
The ACC
Again; they keep hoping for that “year” when as a conference, they come out of the shadow of Basketball. I agree with Rocker. The ACC is looking pretty good so far; and as I stated, that UNC spanking of Rutgers really caught a lot of people off guard.(Including me!)
SEC/Big 12
The scary thing about the SEC is that the three “weakest” teams; Vandy, 'Ole Miss and Miss State are playing some hard, tough ball. This conference is starting to get even scarier in its depth.
The PROBLEM is that the SEC’s strength ends up being why at least 2-3 of its schools get screwed for a title shot each year as they being to knock each other off. Yes; they do have a championship game based on conference standings; but each year they will end up with 2-3 teams that can beat anyone in the country on any given day.
DITTO (as above) for the Big 12 as that Conference gets stronger and stronger from the bottom up.
Mufasa[/quote]
It is hard to say with the SEC. You hear that argument every year: “The SEC is such a strong conference. Those teams can’t run the table because they beat the hell out of each other.”
The problem is that we can’t say for sure whether that’s true until we start seeing some SEC matchups with decent non-conference opponents. As bad as the Pac-10 appears to be, keep in mind that the Vols lost to Cal last year and UCLA this year.
Does that mean that Tennessee blows ass or does that give us a glimpse into the true color of SEC football? The SEC’s spankings of Ohio St. from the past two years do not look very impressive anymore, given that Ohio St. is just flat out not an elite team.
I can’t say for sure which way it is. I do think, however, that a lot of the “toughness” you see in the SEC is due to the fact that, as I said before, the conference features
(1) intense rivalries and
(2) very tough locations to play in. This is why Miss. St. can play #9 Auburn to the hilt at Miss St. or why S. Carolina can play #2 Georgia to the hilt at S. Carolina. But this does not make those teams “good” teams in the sense that we are thinking of.
In other words, take SEC teams out of their envirnoment (literally) and they might not hold up to the likes of Mizzou, Oklahoma, Texas, or USC.
One thing is for sure, though, the Big 12 is the premier conference this year, with the SEC a distant or close second. I think this has to do with a combination of strength in the Big 12 as well as just absolute dog shit in virtually every other conference other than the SEC.
I just watched the Wisconsin/Fresno State game that I Tivo’d from last night. How the fuck was that an incomplete pass? Those WAC officials need to be shot.
LMFAO @ Ohio St. I am sick of those fuckers being the poster children of the Big 10. Not that the division is that great to begin with. Wisconsin is going to clean shit up this year, but the Badgers still don’t have a secondary worth a shit.
If we play a big pass offense(any team not in the Big 10)in a bowl game we are going to get steam rolled.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
I just watched the Wisconsin/Fresno State game that I Tivo’d from last night. How the fuck was that an incomplete pass? Those WAC officials need to be shot.
LMFAO @ Ohio St. I am sick of those fuckers being the poster children of the Big 10. Not that the division is that great to begin with. Wisconsin is going to clean shit up this year, but the Badgers still don’t have a secondary worth a shit.
If we play a big pass offense(any team not in the Big 10)in a bowl game we are going to get steam rolled. [/quote]
True, but if y’alls front 7 keep gettin pressure on the QB y’all won’t have to worry bout the secondary.
This weekend overall for football was a pretty good one, lots of close games and a few blowouts(hell even PRO football was good this weekend)
heres the new coaches poll (the one that actually counts) as of today
USC (57) 2-0 1518
Oklahoma (1) 3-0 1423
Georgia (2) 3-0 1393
Florida (1) 2-0 1335
Missouri 3-0 1294
LSU 2-0 1233
Texas 2-0 1128
Wisconsin 3-0 1027
Auburn 3-0 955
Texas Tech 3-0 887
BYU 3-0 846
Oregon 3-0 783
Alabama 3-0 771
Ohio State 2-1 736
Penn State 3-0 724
South Florida 3-0 685
East Carolina 3-0 508
Wake Forest 2-0 498
Kansas 2-1 416
Utah 3-0 400
Clemson 2-1 233
West Virginia 1-1 159
Illinois 2-1 127
Arizona State 2-1 113
Florida State 2-0 110
Others Receiving Votes
Fresno State 93, TCU 76, Nebraska 49, Boise State 43, Kentucky 40, Oklahoma State 39, Tennessee 34, Virginia Tech 31, Connecticut 27, Vanderbilt 20, North Carolina 19, Iowa 14, Northwestern 10, California 7, Notre Dame 5, Michigan State 5, Colorado 3, Boston College 2, Ball State 2, Georgia Tech 2, Tulsa 2
[quote]SSC wrote:
I like Urban Meyer fine, but his playcalling becomes WAY too conservative when they take the lead.[/quote]
That is the biggest problem I have with Urban Meyer. And I attribute that to at least two of last year’s losses (Auburn, LSU) during the final minutes of the fourth quarter.
I wish he would be aggressive throughout the entire game rather than backing off as soon as they get a small lead and just trying to keep it close all the time. Besides, that just stresses me out watching the games. I think 2006 nearly gave me an ulcer since all the games came down to the last few seconds.
I guess we’re used to the Spurrier days when the Gators would blow people out until the last play of the game.
Some interesting games this past weekend. Although I am glad my Trojans beat OSU, I was disappointed in that it wasn’t much of a game to watch. I think OSU is better than they looked on Saturday.
I am also shocked at the stomping UCLA took from BYU. 59-0 is just shameful, I don’t know how someone bounces back from that.
Notre Dame winning over Michigan surprised me, I figured ND to be better than it was last year, but they improved more than I would have expected. I was sad to see Charlie Weiss having is ACL blown out during the game. You know these guys are hitting when the people on the sideline are getting hurt.
Georgia getting by South Carolina by one touchdown was surprising to me. I know teams struggle, but the #2 team against an unranked team shouldn’t be so close. It seems that voters also saw this, and dropped Georgia to #3, with Oklahoma moving into the #2 spot in the AP Poll. I am not a fan of polls early on, but I do understand their importance. People want to know where their team stands in the big picture, so these polls are good for that.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Some interesting games this past weekend. Although I am glad my Trojans beat OSU, I was disappointed in that it wasn’t much of a game to watch. I think OSU is better than they looked on Saturday.
I am also shocked at the stomping UCLA took from BYU. 59-0 is just shameful, I don’t know how someone bounces back from that.
Notre Dame winning over Michigan surprised me, I figured ND to be better than it was last year, but they improved more than I would have expected. I was sad to see Charlie Weiss having is ACL blown out during the game. You know these guys are hitting when the people on the sideline are getting hurt.
Georgia getting by South Carolina by one touchdown was surprising to me. I know teams struggle, but the #2 team against an unranked team shouldn’t be so close. It seems that voters also saw this, and dropped Georgia to #3, with Oklahoma moving into the #2 spot in the AP Poll. I am not a fan of polls early on, but I do understand their importance. People want to know where their team stands in the big picture, so these polls are good for that.
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Georgia was lucky to escape with a 1-place drop, IMO. That team is just teetering and waiting to be knocked off. I am not even sure if they are the 2nd best team in the SEC (after Florida and possibly LSU).
[quote]eic wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Some interesting games this past weekend. Although I am glad my Trojans beat OSU, I was disappointed in that it wasn’t much of a game to watch. I think OSU is better than they looked on Saturday.
I am also shocked at the stomping UCLA took from BYU. 59-0 is just shameful, I don’t know how someone bounces back from that.
Notre Dame winning over Michigan surprised me, I figured ND to be better than it was last year, but they improved more than I would have expected. I was sad to see Charlie Weiss having is ACL blown out during the game. You know these guys are hitting when the people on the sideline are getting hurt.
Georgia getting by South Carolina by one touchdown was surprising to me. I know teams struggle, but the #2 team against an unranked team shouldn’t be so close. It seems that voters also saw this, and dropped Georgia to #3, with Oklahoma moving into the #2 spot in the AP Poll. I am not a fan of polls early on, but I do understand their importance. People want to know where their team stands in the big picture, so these polls are good for that.
Georgia was lucky to escape with a 1-place drop, IMO. That team is just teetering and waiting to be knocked off. I am not even sure if they are the 2nd best team in the SEC (after Florida and possibly LSU).[/quote]
I will go ahead and say this so it is on record but UGA better watch it otherwise they’ll lose this weekend to ASU or the next week against Alabama. If they get through these two games and they are not close I’ll be very surprised
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am also shocked at the stomping UCLA took from BYU. 59-0 is just shameful, I don’t know how someone bounces back from that.[/quote]
Yep. Wasn’t expecting that. I had picked UCLA to win (with an “iffy” feeling). I was mislead into picking UCLA based on the win over the Vols last week. But that game and this weekend’s game against UAB proves that the Vols are not that good and have a lot of improving to do. They looked bad the first half despite winning 35-3. Florida should be able to beat them this weekend no problem.
Yep. I was surprised too. But again, I don’t think it’s because Notre Dame has improved so much over last year. I think it’s that Michigan has been overrated so far this year. The new coach and new offense is going to take more time to make it work, so I expect more losses for Michigan.
You never know what to expect in the SEC. There have been plenty of close games with unranked SEC teams against highly ranked SEC teams (Vanderbilt and Kentucky have always been close games for Florida).
I would have expected a higher scoring game (35-17 or 24-14). Same for Auburn and Mississippi (3-2). But because Georgia struggled and didn’t score much, they definitely got bumped down the polls. They still have many tough games ahead of them, so I don’t expect them to stay in the top five for long. I do hope they are undefeated when Florida plays them. They can lose as many games as they want after that. 
I just like to see Florida play other teams when they have better records and higher placement in the polls so we look better when we beat them! 
[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
Some picks for this weekend:
No brainers:
Tenn over UAB
FSU over Chattanooga
Who else is playing worth mentioning?[/quote]
Looks like I went 6-4 last week after not going with my gut feeling/better judgement on two games.
Here are my top picks this week:
3 Georgia over ASU
4 Gators over Vols
6 LSU over 10 Auburn
9 Alabama over Arkansas
15 East Carolina over North Carolina State
24 FSU over 18 Wake Forest
Miami over Texas A&M
My “iffy” games that could go either way:
North Carolina over Virginia Tech
Michigan State over Notre Dame
Georgia Tech over Mississippi State
Ole Miss over Vanderbilit (but my gut says to go Vanderbilit over Ole Miss…we’ll see how this pans out)
Boston College over UCF
Gimme Games:
5 Missouri over Buffalo
7 Texas over Rice
11 Texas Tech over Massachusetts
12 USF over Florida International
13 Ohio State over Troy
14 BYU over Wyoming
16 Penn State over Temple
17 Oregon over Boise State
19 Kansas over Sam Houston State
23 Clemson over South Carolina State
ECU leading NCSU
Troy hanging w/ tOSU
UCF leading BC at the half]
down w/ the BCS!!!
An old friend is coming to pick me up in a few hours. Making the drive over to Dallas to see the Frogs play SMU. This should be a blowout but it rarely is. On top of that GP’s defensive style should keep it close. Ought to be a fun evening. Atleast the weather is good this week. Bama killing Arkansas. Lot’s of family ties to Bama.