Clueless About Nutrition

Nutrition
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[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

This one doesn’t even work. Him following a good diet or not, or being a nutrition guru or not, is irrelevant to him giving advice, or not.

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[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
I don’t disagree with you, just saw a lot of similarities (in particular the time between feeding) with kiefer. Also Erick Minor put it great in that new article he just put out: Livestock and prey eat constantly; the King of the jungle eats sporadically.[/quote]
I liked that point also. Kind of like getting dehydrated after a 20min. run.

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[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
I don’t disagree with you, just saw a lot of similarities (in particular the time between feeding) with kiefer. Also Erick Minor put it great in that new article he just put out: Livestock and prey eat constantly; the King of the jungle eats sporadically.[/quote]

Sorry my bad :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
It also too us WORK (hours and hours) of sifting and reading stuff and then applying it.

I might also have a skewed view because I’m a dietetian and this sort of shit takes a lot of work–nutrition education, meal planning, assessing.

I say either educate yourself and apply, or HIRE someone.

You can defend yourself in court, but it will be a whole lot more clumsy, expensive, and tiresome experience than shelling out the dough for a lawyer. [/quote]

I understand this, however, if you are on this forum/board, why not offer some advice, since you obviously know quite abit about nutrtiion.

We all have to make a living, so I wouldn’t expect you to give the person a step by step guiding hand, but pointing him in the right directionw ould not hurt either --links, ect…[/quote]

I’m a nutrition student at the moment, so I will happily give as much advice as I can given how I can’t charge people for it.

However, in 2 years time I will most likely respond like Bricknyce and tell some people to just study the concept or pay for a dietitian.

Why? It just so happens that there are two types of people who want nutritional information. One type studies on his/her own and sometimes gets genuinely confused, and then asks for clarification on a topic. The other type does no studying and expects people to tell him/her exactly what to do.

The former usually gets help for free, the latter takes everybodies advice whether it is contradictory or not and ends up at best not progressing, at worst hurting themselves. I, for one, don’t want to aid somebody who does not have the will to learn on their own.

I don’t speak for Brick, but that is my opinion on the matter.

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[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

This one doesn’t even work. Him following a good diet or not, or being a nutrition guru or not, is irrelevant to him giving advice, or not.
[/quote]

Really? How so? If someone is more advanced than another, would that not make sense that the advanced person would/could/should offer some advice?

Irrelevant? Thats like saying a math teacher does/should not have to offer advice on a math question… (in a math forum.)

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[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

This one doesn’t even work. Him following a good diet or not, or being a nutrition guru or not, is irrelevant to him giving advice, or not.
[/quote]

Really? How so? If someone is more advanced than another, would that not make sense that the advanced person would/could/should offer some advice?

Irrelevant? Thats like saying a math teacher does/should not have to offer advice on a math question… (in a math forum.) [/quote]

Except that the math teacher is under contract, forum posters are not. Everyone here can give advice irrelevant of their knowledge. This is why so many forums suck, especially bodybuilding.com, lots of people give advice there, when most of them shouldn’t.

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[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

I eat cake and pork rinds.

Do you really think anyone cares what you think? If you want to help people, go ahead and do it. But who the hell are you to tell other people what to do?

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[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

LOL @ you being a 37 year old and making veiled jabs at steroid use. Grow up clown.

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People, there’s nothing wrong with helping other people with what you know. Look at how many posts I have. MANY of them were posted to help others.

It’s just that there are people who come on here saying stuff like the OP has–“I know nothing and I need you people to tell me something”–it is a bit frustrating. All of those who are successful at this had to sift through some information and try to apply it. And it’s actually not that easy, and there is some fumbling and some mistakes are made in the beginning. It costs time–and some physical and mental energy actually.

What’s different and more understandable is when someone has tried to get the ball rolling and needs some help. I myself get a little annoyed (but realize I’m not the freaking mayor of this board) when people come on here and say stuff like, “Here’s my diet. What do you think of it?” But at least those people took a stab at applying some of the information they’ve sifted through and read. I still have questions myself.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
People, there’s nothing wrong with helping other people with what you know. Look at how many posts I have. MANY of them were posted to help others.

It’s just that there are people who come on here saying stuff like the OP has–“I know nothing and I need you people to tell me something”–it is a bit frustrating. All of those who are successful at this had to sift through some information and try to apply it. And it’s actually not that easy, and there is some fumbling and some mistakes are made in the beginning. It costs time–and some physical and mental energy actually.

What’s different and more understandable is when someone has tried to get the ball rolling and needs some help. I myself get a little annoyed (but realize I’m not the freaking mayor of this board) when people come on here and say stuff like, “Here’s my diet. What do you think of it?” But at least those people took a stab at applying some of the information they’ve sifted through and read. I still have questions myself. [/quote]
Good point. I can’t stand the “I’ve tried everything.” If you tried “everything” you should be able to come up with something. At least an education? Like you said at least make an attempt.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
People, there’s nothing wrong with helping other people with what you know. Look at how many posts I have. MANY of them were posted to help others.

It’s just that there are people who come on here saying stuff like the OP has–“I know nothing and I need you people to tell me something”–it is a bit frustrating. All of those who are successful at this had to sift through some information and try to apply it. And it’s actually not that easy, and there is some fumbling and some mistakes are made in the beginning. It costs time–and some physical and mental energy actually.

What’s different and more understandable is when someone has tried to get the ball rolling and needs some help. I myself get a little annoyed (but realize I’m not the freaking mayor of this board) when people come on here and say stuff like, “Here’s my diet. What do you think of it?” But at least those people took a stab at applying some of the information they’ve sifted through and read. I still have questions myself. [/quote]

And it’s not like threads like these happen too often. When its someone that puts in some time of the forum many people are eager to help out.

But everyone who posted in this thread saw what was coming from a mile away. Garbage opening post and never returns again.

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[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

This one doesn’t even work. Him following a good diet or not, or being a nutrition guru or not, is irrelevant to him giving advice, or not.
[/quote]

Really? How so? If someone is more advanced than another, would that not make sense that the advanced person would/could/should offer some advice?

Irrelevant? Thats like saying a math teacher does/should not have to offer advice on a math question… (in a math forum.) [/quote]

Except that the math teacher is under contract, forum posters are not. Everyone here can give advice irrelevant of their knowledge. This is why so many forums suck, especially bodybuilding.com, lots of people give advice there, when most of them shouldn’t. [/quote]

Except, you’re assuming the math teacher is under a contract. I’m just talking about a plain old forum such as this, so ideally, you’d hope the person(s) with knowledge would lend a hand.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

I eat cake and pork rinds.

Do you really think anyone cares what you think? If you want to help people, go ahead and do it. But who the hell are you to tell other people what to do? [/quote]

I never said anyone should care what I think, hit a nerve did I? Its a nutrition forum, if someone askes a question, you’d hope the person(s) who answer in the thread would give him/her some guidance.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

LOL @ you being a 37 year old and making veiled jabs at steroid use. Grow up clown. [/quote]

What’s wrong, truth hurts? What does age have to do with anything? Is there a cutoff age where one cannot go past and mention certain “taboo” subjects?

Clown? Nice mask.

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Thread fail. Hooray!

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^My comment was not to poke fun at anyone. That is all.

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[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]scottgomez wrote:
What’s the point of having this forum, if all a person is ever going to get is–look it up yourself? (not specifically directed at Bricknyce, but others aswell).

Why not just offer some help, opinions…what worked for you etc…[/quote]

Why dont you? [/quote]

I’ve never confessed to be a nutrition guru. How about you? You must follow a good diet or is it a little diet and a little help elsewhere?[/quote]

LOL @ you being a 37 year old and making veiled jabs at steroid use. Grow up clown. [/quote]

What’s wrong, truth hurts? What does age have to do with anything? Is there a cutoff age where one cannot go past and mention certain “taboo” subjects?

Clown? Nice mask. [/quote]

In this forum, it’s not exactly a taboo subject. It is a subject neither positive or negative in nature. You, being 37, seem to think it is taboo, seem to think that insinuating that someone has to use steroids to get bigger, stronger, because he (BONEZ) didn’t put in the work is indeed a veiled insult, albeit a bad one. Most here would take that assessment that we were doing something right. At your age, one would hope that you’d be above childish and thoughtless (status-quo) type comments. But apparently in your years you haven’t learned to think past what the media says about anything and are now relegated to attempting to insult a respected member on the forum that has given out much more help then I or many would care to do or have done. Now, act your age, and if people choose not to help people out here on the forum then it is by their choice and is usually for a specific reason, the exception being straight up assholes which BONEZ is not. In this case, the OP didn’t do sufficient research before and wanted the answers given to him. As the age-old saying goes, give a man a fish and he’ll be fed for a day, teach him to fish and he’ll never be hungry. By not giving out instant-answers and asking people to do a bit of work on their own they ultimately are being helped, they actually learn instead of just toting the typical media-induced bullshit line. I recommend you go read up on steroids, watch a few documentaries on them, and approach them with an objective view point, you could actually do that with any subject I simply point towards that since you seemed to hold such an inherent negative feeling about it and attempt to project your negativity upon members who may or may not use them, or may or may not feel they are an appropriate source of help.

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^^yeah!!! What he said.