Thank You Yogi_ and pex86, I also see it as prevention vs repair but I’ve also seen many experienced guys saying that hCG kickstart before PCT is as good as doing it on-cycle. I just wanted to know some specifics about it if there are any. But I guess there is no one best answer as with most drug related things and it really depends from person to person.
yeah you’ll find that even actual doctors disagree about the best way to use hCG, let alone internet bro’s!
I’ve done the on cycle thing and the pre-PCT blast and I can’t really say I’ve noticed a difference. I stick to on-cycle now purely because I like my nuts to stay full sized
I’d say it is definitely better used during your cycle to prevent the damage and this is also how it is used in a TRT context.
Another down side to using it at the end of the cycle is that it is often done in much larger volumes. So during cycle you might do 250iu 2xWeek or EOD but often when used at the end people are suggesting 1000iu+ EOD. This can cause a lot of aromatisation which we don’t want.
@pex86 Yeah I also remember KSman saying about the high T=>E conversion inside testes and desensitization of receptors with high dose hCG. But is it really a concern when using the hCG blast before PCT for just around 10 days when esters are clearing out of the system.
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I’ve done the on cycle thing and the pre-PCT blast and I can’t really say I’ve noticed a difference. I stick to on-cycle now purely because I like my nuts to stay full sized
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Yogi will you please explain a little that how you used hCG during the pre-PCT blast. Was it similar to Scally’s protocol or something else?
I think either way will work but i would prefer to avoid the damage if possible. As Yogi mentioned i’d use during cycle if for no other reason than to keep balls at their normal size
500iu a day for ten days was what I did
Man, all kinds of knowledge bombs getting dropped in here. Yogi, when you did 500iu a day for ten days, when did you start that in your cycle?
Also, I’m curious to hear opinions about pinning 500mg once a week vs 250mg twice a week. Will there be any noticeable difference in the effect if I chose to go once a week?
Well, half life of hCG is just about 24-36 hours. The eod or e2d dosing is based on it and 250iu eod is the replacement dose for the lost LH during the steroid cycle.
I can’t speak for doing it in conjunction with test but clen never did anything noticeable for me, even on high enough doses to give me jitters. What’s interesting though is I did have extremely good results with phentermine, even keeping my food intake relatively high.
Thanks for the feedback, what exactly is phentermine? I’ve never heard of that.
It is an amphetamine weight loss drug typically prescribed at weight loss clinics.