Hey Swole,
I got mine in the mail the other day to. Had to fucking drive to the Post office to pick it up because I missed the mailman. I took 30mg the other night before class to see if I could feel anything, and like you I didn’t really feel it. Now, on top of this order I ordered from a NJ based pharmacy, BOLT Ephedrine HCL which is a real, known legit pure ephedrine that requires an ID and all.
I took a 25mg pill this morning with a 200mg caffeine pill and can say I felt it to a certain extent. I’ve always been tolerant to stims and can usually take alot before I even feel them, so I’m going to just take it when I’m 8 weeks out from my show and hope everything works.
As for my cycle, I plan to do the following starting 8 weeks out:
3 Weeks of: 25mg E, 200mg C, 81mg A, 3x/day but only doing the A twice because I don’t like all that aspirin with stomach issues.
2weeks off: Run 2 weeks of HOT-ROX Extreme at 4 pills/day
3 weeks of: 25mg E, 200mg C, 81mg A, 3x/day(same aspirin dosing as first 3 weeks)
So far I believe this is good, I may bump it to 35mg E after week one depending on my results.
However, I do want to know if a 1 week break would be sufficient instead of the 2 weeks I have planned? I want to run the ECA stack as continuously and effectively as possible, and if a 1 week break is sufficient than I will switch to that.
Edit: I also plan on running Carbolin 19 @ 4pills/day during the ECA weeks.
Alright, well we are both stim tolerant so thats probably the deal. And the second dose you probably felt cuz you threw in caffeine. I think its probably working cuz I’m not really having the desire to eat like is mentioned.
I’m gonna be doing 25e, 200c, 81A, 3xday, probably 3 weeks on, 1 week off.
I’m also taking Alpha Male/REZ-V while doing it for both the extra testosterone and Carbolin 19. My plan is to do this for the next 8 weeks and see where I end up. Obviously I have my diet and training in order.
Is your PM not working or did you just wanna respond on here? Cuz I sent you 2.
Also, would you compare the tastes of your 2 E brands and tell me if its the same/similar.
Just let a small tab dissolve on your tongue. I did this at someone elses suggestion to make sure it was real but I have no baseline to compare it too.
He said alkaline, I sort of agree, not very good either way lol.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Alright, well we are both stim tolerant so thats probably the deal. And the second dose you probably felt cuz you threw in caffeine. I think its probably working cuz I’m not really having the desire to eat like is mentioned.
I’m gonna be doing 25e, 200c, 81A, 3xday, probably 3 weeks on, 1 week off.
I’m also taking Alpha Male/REZ-V while doing it for both the extra testosterone and Carbolin 19. My plan is to do this for the next 8 weeks and see where I end up. Obviously I have my diet and training in order.
Is your PM not working or did you just wanna respond on here? Cuz I sent you 2.
Also, would you compare the tastes of your 2 E brands and tell me if its the same/similar.
Just let a small tab dissolve on your tongue. I did this at someone elses suggestion to make sure it was real but I have no baseline to compare it too.
He said alkaline, I sort of agree, not very good either way lol.[/quote]
Hmm, thats odd, I didn’t get any of your PMs hence me commenting here.
As for you doing one week off, did you find any suggestions saying that 1 week was a sufficient break period?
I will most definitely do the taste test and let you know what happens, although I will probably break the 25mg tab in half, haha.
Lol probably should break the tab cuz it’ll get absorbed so quick dissolving through the mouth.
I’ve read that 3 weeks on 1 off is what alot of people use.
Apparently only the body really just gets used to the stim effect. I’ve read alot of stuff that says its thermogenic effect actually increases over time.
But 3 on 1 off is probably fine. I’ve read alot of stuff saying thats sufficient. Some also cycle 5days on 2 days off.
[quote]chillain wrote:
Clen is best for those who are too lazy to jump rope or get outside and run some sprints.
(sorry if that offends but think about it)
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Nothing to do with being lazy. I held a 6% body fat for two years through intense running and cardio, but wanted to get alot bigger and stronger. I’m only doing this to accelerate fat loss and decrease the amount of time required to get down to low digit body fat such as 4-5% for a show. And I’m still doing cardio 3x/week and soon will bump it to 4x/week. So it has absolutely nothing to do with being lazy.
My ephedrine source-www.dmdpharm.com
Order the ephedrine plus, 12.5 or 25 mg. They sell it over the counter, but my local store stopped selling it because of all the meth heads.
I’m sure you can with the OTC medicines like vasopro. But after consulting with someone more experienced and intelligent than I, via PM, I decided I didn’t want my drivers license on the states record of pre-meth compound buyers somewhere.
Here’s my reasoning, quoted from who I talked to via PM.
“I’m sure it’s not that big a deal the license, but one might wonder if once they get your name and all, if you would come up easier than the average Joe if you order something entirely difft overseas or somewhere they are suspicious of already which would suck”
I tended to agree with this.
Probably not a big deal but who knows.
I may buy OTC for simplicities sake in the future, the only really annoying thing is the damn mark-up.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
What do ya’ll do cardio wise running ECA?
I mean I’m sure the sustained anaerobic performance is part of the “magic” of ECA. Or am I wrong?
If you were doing a keto diet…at say 10-11x BW ala Berardi, with a large carb-up meal every weekend, what would you do cardio wise?
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I’m doing a 3x week 30min empty stomach with BCAA and Amino load prior to on the Elliptical, or post workout. When I get about 8-9 weeks out, or sooner depending on results I’ll bump to 4x week 30-40mins elliptical work. Either way, go low intensity fat burning. Or if you want do the treadmill at a low speed with a fairly decent incline for 30-40 mins. If you chose to do the Elliptical, set it on a Glute workout this way to keep your legs out of it so you can preserve more leg muscle, especially on a low carb diet.
Somebody earlier asked me to mention how the stack works for me.
This may sound like BS, but remember I got nothin’ to sell.
I’m running a keto diet at between 9-11xBW per JB’s get shredded.
Protein is about 40% and fat about 52-53%.
I’ve been on the stack 5 days.
Prior to this I’d been following the AD with a few hundred more calories per day but terrible 2 day long refeeds on the weekend making no progress.
In the 5 days on the stack I’ve switch to the other diet I mentioned, I’m not doing cardio and the fat is absolutely melting off my midsection. Visible difference already. In lieu of a refeed I’m doing 1 cheat meal each weekend with lots of carbs. Sunday I had a cheat meal with probably 200+ carbs.
Also supplementing with glutamine PWO.
I’m gaining strength on my 5x5 program so losing muscle is obviously not happening.
The stack is working phenomenally. I may get leaner alot faster than I thought between the diet+the stack.
Also on Alpha Male + REZ-V which is probably helping maintain muscle mass. I have really enjoyed the effects of this stack (Alpha Male + REZ-V so far, currently in my 4th week of it)
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Somebody earlier asked me to mention how the stack works for me.
This may sound like BS, but remember I got nothin’ to sell.
I’m running a keto diet at between 9-11xBW per JB’s get shredded.
Protein is about 40% and fat about 52-53%.
I’ve been on the stack 5 days.
Prior to this I’d been following the AD with a few hundred more calories per day but terrible 2 day long refeeds on the weekend making no progress.
In the 5 days on the stack I’ve switch to the other diet I mentioned, I’m not doing cardio and the fat is absolutely melting off my midsection. Visible difference already. In lieu of a refeed I’m doing 1 cheat meal each weekend with lots of carbs. Sunday I had a cheat meal with probably 200+ carbs.
Also supplementing with glutamine PWO.
I’m gaining strength on my 5x5 program so losing muscle is obviously not happening.
The stack is working phenomenally. I may get leaner alot faster than I thought between the diet+the stack.
Also on Alpha Male + REZ-V which is probably helping maintain muscle mass. I have really enjoyed the effects of this stack (Alpha Male + REZ-V so far, currently in my 4th week of it)[/quote]
Sounds good swole. I’ll let you know how my stack goes when I officially start it. Hearing that makes me all giddy inside and makes me want to jump right on it but I know I still need to wait a tad longer.
Thanks, I’d definitely like to hear your results ( on this thread for simplicities sake).
But I’ve dieted many ways and done lots of cardio and used 2 fatburners (1 bottle HRX from GNC and 1 bottle Nitor from at large nutrition)
And nothing has come close to what I’ve experienced so far.
And it seems to take away your mental (and physical) desire to eat. Which is nice for a guy who loves eating. I just eat on my schedule and don’t even think about snacking in between. Didn’t even crave my cheat meal last week and after having it, it was kidna like “eh…”
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Somebody earlier asked me to mention how the stack works for me.
This may sound like BS, but remember I got nothin’ to sell.
I’m running a keto diet at between 9-11xBW per JB’s get shredded.
Protein is about 40% and fat about 52-53%.
I’ve been on the stack 5 days.
Prior to this I’d been following the AD with a few hundred more calories per day but terrible 2 day long refeeds on the weekend making no progress.
In the 5 days on the stack I’ve switch to the other diet I mentioned, I’m not doing cardio and the fat is absolutely melting off my midsection. Visible difference already. In lieu of a refeed I’m doing 1 cheat meal each weekend with lots of carbs. Sunday I had a cheat meal with probably 200+ carbs.
Also supplementing with glutamine PWO.
I’m gaining strength on my 5x5 program so losing muscle is obviously not happening.
The stack is working phenomenally. I may get leaner alot faster than I thought between the diet+the stack.
Also on Alpha Male + REZ-V which is probably helping maintain muscle mass. I have really enjoyed the effects of this stack (Alpha Male + REZ-V so far, currently in my 4th week of it)[/quote]
Did you go with the aspirin? 81mg or the full dose if you included it? Sounds like you are having solid results. congrats.
Yeh, I can’t send outgoing PM’s right now, I dont know what the deal is.
Buy thanks for the link I checked it out. I guess just post here or on my thread if you wanna talk, if its private just PM me and I’ll let you know I got it.