Hi there,
Been searching for a couple days and I’ve put together my next planned cycle, which would be my third. I can bulk up easily, but prefer to remain lean at high single digit. Now I’d like to dig deeper for the pure fun of it…
History
5’6"
145lbs 9-10%bf
lifting 9years
plan to drop to 6-7% to see the potential for a comp next year
“clean fat loss” … as in keeping even in total body weight while dropping a coupld of % in fat. So LBM could gain a bit… but the main focus would be on Fat loss.
Diet is in line at around 2000cals per day.
1.5g/lbs protein = 200g
0.6g/lbs carbs = 80g
rest in fats = 100g (with 15g from fish oils)
Cycle plan
Day 1 (or 2 because of the qty of gear)
frontloading EQ 600mg
frontloading Test E 400mg
W 1-7 EQ 200mg injected E3D = 460mg/week
W 1-8 Test 100mg injectd E3D = 230mg/week
W 1-10 Arimidex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)
PCT
W 11-12 Nolvadex 20mg 2x/d
W 13-14 Nolvadex 20mg/d
Ancillaries
W 1-8 Caber 0.5mg 2x/w (will hold just in case of problems)
Also have lots of Letrozole on standby if need be.
Other
W 1-8 Clenbuterol cycling 2wks ON/OFF at 100mcg ED
Since it is a first use, I’ll go in slowly
20/40/60/80/80… up to max of 100, tapering at 80/60
NOW…
I usually go to about 1300 for fat loss. 2000 seems a bit high, with fats taking 45% of total intake… So I’m not sure if I should go lower in cals going the full fat loss mode, but losing any hope of LBM gains while on the juice. I know dropping fat and gaining LBM is next to impossible… any input would be appreciated…
thanks!
EDIT
Test Enenthate is to be used.
IMO, you’d be better off using that time before the show to bulk up and try to gain a clean 20-30lbs, then cut to contest condition.
Also, do you really want to use equipoise, a steroid known for appetite increases, on a cutting diet?
Yeah, I know about EQ… I can get it cheap and I wanted to give it a try… I was hoping to control the appetite with the Clen, Caber and HOT-ROX in between the Clen…
My plan B was to swap the EQ for Winstrol 50mg ED wk 1-5
Or plan C is to drop the Clen and up the cals to use it as a clean mass cycle…
Geeezzz… can I be more confused lol
any thoughts?
And I’m far from convinced about the comp… but I’ve been toying with the idea
~Are you running Prop or a longer ester. I only ask because you say it’s 100mg. You should definately run Enan with the EQ, which btw, will be barely kicking in by the time you stop and will be around, surpressing, for around 4-5 weeks afterwards. If you must use EQ then run it at least 10+ weeks, preferably 15 and run a Long ester Test 2 weeks past, then start your PCT two+ weeks after that.
~Personally I would just run 400mg or so of test and skip the EQ. EQ is smaller “quality” gains, but iMO only because it’s half as effective… In Every Way. Half the sides (except Blood Pressure) but you have to run double a standard test dose for the same effect - don’t think that 1000mg of EQ won’t cause as much aromatization as 500mg or so of test. Ok, I’m done with my EQ rant… I think. If you can’t tell, I think it’s pretty pointless.
~I wouldn’t bother with 40mg/day Nolvadex for the first two weeks of PCT, you’d only do that to control estrogen as it won’t have more of a stimulating effect - especially since you won’t even be recovery those first two weeks (11-12) as the dumb EQ will still be surpressing.
~The Caber will offer no benefit during your cycle, but may be a good thing PCT or for some fun in bed.
~Don’t bother tapering off the Clen, it’s pretty self-tapering in itself. You say Max of 100mcg, is that because you know that’s your dose? If so start higher and work up, though I assume it’s because of other threads and feedback. 100mcg is exactly what I run, I start at 50 or 60 and jump up after 3 or 4 days and maintain at 100mcg til I come off.
~2000 calories should be fine for you, 1300 seems too low even with the AAS, but you know better than me on how you handle it.
Yeah that’s why I stop the EQ at wk 7, then 8-9 on Test E… then I start the PCT on week 11
I know it’s a relatively short cycle, so thats why I frontload both to compensate for the long esters. I used Roidcal to figure out the frontloading amounts to get stable levels real quick.
I agree with your argument about the Arimiedex, I will stop at week 8.
I know the caber has not real use for this cycle, but like I said I will hold in as a safety net for my bedroom prowess. If only for the mental support ; )
Thanks for the tip on the Clen.
I’ll be hovering around 2000, but I know I start to cut when staying under 1500 and limiting my carb intake around morning and peri workout.
Thanks for the info!