I’ve been reading about steroids for a while now…but only recently have I seen people talk about Class 1s and Class 2s. I have searched around for the differences between them and what makes a steroid fall under either class…but I haven’t found much of anything. Anyone want to lead me in the right direction as to where to read about this topic?
If i remember right steroids that bind well to the androgen receptors are considered class 1 and all others fall into class 2. basically if two drugs have no synergy together they are of the same class. Bill Roberts wrote up a good article on this lemme see if i can find it for you
here ya go mesomorphosis.com/articles/parmacology/androgen-classification-system.htm
[quote]Game_over wrote:
If i remember right steroids that bind well to the androgen receptors are considered class 1 and all others fall into class 2. basically if two drugs have no synergy together they are of the same class. Bill Roberts wrote up a good article on this lemme see if i can find it for you
here ya go mesomorphosis.com/articles/parmacology/androgen-classification-system.htm[/quote]
Nice work Game. Ya beat me to it.
Yeah Bill’s the one who came up with the classing I believe.
That’s why you don’t find diddly unless it’s one of Bill’s articles or some discussion among guys like us in a forum.
How’s it by the way Game?
Stay strong,
ToneBone
Thanks alot guys…really appreciate it!..so then if thats the case Test is a Class I…anavar?
The search engine here should pull up a few threads that assigned the common AAS to their appropriate class.
I’ll also add that while Bill Roberts’ classification is well-accepted around these parts, it is still stuck in the realm of theory.
[quote]chillain wrote:
The search engine here should pull up a few threads that assigned the common AAS to their appropriate class.
I’ll also add that while Bill Roberts’ classification is well-accepted around these parts, it is still stuck in the realm of theory.
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Well I do agree with you bro…but you have to look at it as pretty much all of our information on this subject is through eachother. The medical community isn’t really looking into PCT and test tapering and synergy between these compounds…nor anything really of that nature. So it’s left up to the users through trial and error and sharing of information from past experience as well as learning about hormones and the body on our own and sharing that information.
I think all of this over the years…along with the internet and forums like this have attributed to much greater knowledge on these compounds, how to use them, how they work, and which work best with eachother for what purposes. So…yes alot of these ideas can be considered theory and speculative because none of them have really been tested in a medical environment…but the ideas have been tested extensively by the community…and thats good enough for me.
most other places will just tell you if the effects of a certain steroid are more androgenic or anabolic (or the ratio of the two) based on how strongly it binds to the androgen receptor and the non-androgen receptor mediated effects. I talk about them in these terms in the newbie cycle thread.
test is considered perfectly balanced in terms of androgenic to anabolic ratio…every other compound is judged based off that.
I didn’t list them as class I or class II because I think it is a little bit of an oversimplification…the whole list of available gear is a SPECTRUM in terms of AR activation not an ON/OFF type of thing where it either does or doesn’t activate it.
personally I think there is likely some synergy between mixing a test, 19-nor, and DHT and some synergy with mixing AR and NON-AR mediated compounds. Dose is still the biggest factor though. Along those lines mixing a test, 19-Nor, and DHT helps to let you use more gear with balanced sides (because each has it’s own sides with a certain tolerance for every user to those sides).
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
most other places will just tell you if the effects of a certain steroid are more androgenic or anabolic (or the ratio of the two) based on how strongly it binds to the androgen receptor and the non-androgen receptor mediated effects. I talk about them in these terms in the newbie cycle thread.
test is considered perfectly balanced in terms of androgenic to anabolic ratio…every other compound is judged based off that.
I didn’t list them as class I or class II because I think it is a little bit of an oversimplification…the whole list of available gear is a SPECTRUM in terms of AR activation not an ON/OFF type of thing where it either does or doesn’t activate it.
personally I think there is likely some synergy between mixing a test, 19-nor, and DHT and some synergy with mixing AR and NON-AR mediated compounds. Dose is still the biggest factor though. Along those lines mixing a test, 19-Nor, and DHT helps to let you use more gear with balanced sides (because each has it’s own sides with a certain tolerance for every user to those sides).
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Does that mean you could use 300mg of test and 200mg of deca a week and you would get almost equal results to 500mg of test straight?