[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just because we AS OF YET don’t have the appendix surgically removed doesn’t mean there won’t ever be advances in science to where it will be done. Wisdom teeth are removed on a regular basis because the jaws of many humans can barely sustain room for them aside from larger individuals.[/quote]
If someone wants to get their foreskin removed because someone’s mouth isn’t big enough for it, that’s fine by me.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Many asian women are being born without any wisdom teeth at all. Your analogy doesn’t hold water because we regularly surgically remove body parts that can lead to infection. Why should this be any different?[/quote]
We do? I’m not talking about people getting shit removed that IS infected, I’m talking about might become infected. Unless there is a problem with reoccurring infection (eg - ingrown toenail), I don’t hear of too many people getting shit cut out because it might get infected later on.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Mutilation? I think my dick looks great. In fact, I shall now strip naked and finish typing this simply because my dick is so damn beautiful.
Aaaaaaaaaaah.[/quote]
I never said anything about mutilation. The most passionate I got about this whole arguement was that I think it’s unneccessary, and that the arguements either way were pretty lame.
I’m glad you think your dick looks great. I find mine looks better when it’s in some chicks mouth.
PS You didn’t type that last bit with your dick, did you?
Carrie, thanks for your concern and all the links. But with all due respect, you don’t have a package so you just don’t truly understand this issue at all. I’m cut. Been cut since the day after I was born. Prof. X took the words right out of my mouth. I like my penis, my penis likes me. We like each other. I’m sure uncut guys say the same thing. Either way, we all have fun with our piece. I don’t feel like my parents slighted me when they decided to have my turtleneck removed and I’d say most cut guys would agree. We respectfully don’t need you to protest circumcisions on our behalf.
Just because we AS OF YET don’t have the appendix surgically removed doesn’t mean there won’t ever be advances in science to where it will be done. Wisdom teeth are removed on a regular basis because the jaws of many humans can barely sustain room for them aside from larger individuals. Many asian women are being born without any wisdom teeth at all. Your analogy doesn’t hold water because we regularly surgically remove body parts that can lead to infection. Why should this be any different? Mutilation? I think my dick looks great. In fact, I shall now strip naked and finish typing this simply because my dick is so damn beautiful.
Are you serious??? People have actually tried to link agression and violence to getting circumcized? Sheesh, and I thought linking it to creatine supplements was bad…
Yeah, and the dwindling number of pirates is causing global warming.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics![/quote]
Where’s the one about Ninjas? Because wherever pirates exist, ninja will always be there to combat the evil ways of the pirate.
[quote]Massif wrote:
We do? I’m not talking about people getting shit removed that IS infected, I’m talking about might become infected.[/quote]
“Might become infected” and “hard to clean” are exactly the reasons my dentist gave for wanting to remove my wisdom teeth, even though I had room for them. 20 years later they’re still in good shape. He was right though, they did get infected a lot those first five years.
[quote]larryb wrote:
Massif wrote:
We do? I’m not talking about people getting shit removed that IS infected, I’m talking about might become infected.
“Might become infected” and “hard to clean” are exactly the reasons my dentist gave for wanting to remove my wisdom teeth, even though I had room for them. 20 years later they’re still in good shape. He was right though, they did get infected a lot those first five years.
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True. That is why most are removed long before they actually cause infection due to malplacement or impaction.
-I would like to see statistics on rapists and see what the percentages were on intact vs. cut.
I’m really curious, my theory is that those that are uncut, since they have more sensitive dicks, are less likely to commit a sexual assault. From my own experience, if there isn’t adequate lubrication, it is very uncomfortable, since you have a foreskin being pulled back by a dry oriface=painful.
I’m not trying to say that cut men are more violent, etc. I’m just really curious to see if there is a real connection here. I’ve never understood how a man can force a woman(or man ouch!) into unwanted penetration, simply because I know mine hurts when going in dry. The only thing I could figure out is that men that do force penetration are more likely cut. Remember to relax, its just a theory.
Aside from that, I like having a convertable. I’ve enjoyed my penis over the years, and it continues to satisfy. Also, if you can’t remember to clean yourself daily, you don’t deserve to get any oral attention anyway. Same goes for women that don’t keep their business clean and tidy.
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I think uncut guys are more likely to commit rape, since 90% of women throw up a little in their mouth when they see an uncut dick.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
larryb wrote:
Massif wrote:
We do? I’m not talking about people getting shit removed that IS infected, I’m talking about might become infected.
“Might become infected” and “hard to clean” are exactly the reasons my dentist gave for wanting to remove my wisdom teeth, even though I had room for them. 20 years later they’re still in good shape. He was right though, they did get infected a lot those first five years.
True. That is why most are removed long before they actually cause infection due to malplacement or impaction.
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I had my wisdom teeth removed. If I hadn’t They would have displaced my other teeth and screwed up my mouth. There is not enough room in my mouth for them.
I had my appendix out otherwise it would have probably killed me.
I had my foreskin snipped otherwise my pants wouldn’t fit.
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
I am very VERY against circumcision. It is not natural, it is not your body. WHY would you cut off part of someone else’s body w/o asking their permission FIRST?[/quote]
I did ask my son first. All he did was stare at me.
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And for those that will cut, try researching it first and WATCH A VIDEO of it. You’d put your son through that? Nice dad. Yeah, you’re a real winner.[/quote]
I went through it and I turned out only mildly screwy, but much less screwy than a lot of uncircumcised men. Btw, every member of Al Qaida is uncircumcized.
[quote]BorisTheSpider wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Surgical intervention where soap and water will easily do the trick. Quite a few botched circumcisions have resulted in otherwise healthy boys being forced to undergo sex change operations.
The cries of pain that a baby lets out when being circumcised are louder and more prolonged than any other that they normally make.
A couple of years ago on cnn they reported a statistical study that showed circumcised men were %30 more likely to commit violent crimes of assault rape and murder.
Apparently it affects the brain development of newborns and makes them more aggressive.
In Europe it’s not widely used except for Jews and Muslims whose religion prescribes genital mutilation.
It’s probably something to consider when comparing public opinion between Europe and the US.
[quote]Carrie77 wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I am now consumed with the thought that I could be 70% more sensitive on my dick. I wouldn’t be able to wear clothes. I would be forced to walk around butt naked popping wood at the slightest breeze or one degree drop in temperature. These thoughts shall occupy my time throughout all eternity now…or until I hit “submit”.
Yeah, I thought it was sensitive now. Shit, we’d have to wear loose kilt-like garments to keep from rubbing one off while walking.
OMG, you guys are dorks. LOL!
The foreskin covers the head. It’s only sensitive when you’re getting busy. You don’t just randomly get wood any more than circ’d men do.
My husband (ipjunkie) and my son are both intact. As is my youngest brother. My circ’d brother wishes he had never been cut and he wishes that he hadn’t submitted to letting his son get cut.
There’s something inherently wrong with talking about your brother’s penis.
As for the sensitivity issue, I am cut, a coworker of mine isn’t. When we rub our junk together, I feel it more than he does, so there. Maybe that was too much information…
[quote]Massif wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
I STILL have yet to meet a person that has given any valid reasons for why it’s bad as opposed to being essentially nothing-not good or bad. A large majority of men in this country are circumcised. I think we’re all doing fine.
I just think it is unnecessary. We don’t need our appendix and it can get infected and kill you, but we don’t get that cut out at birth. The reasons against circumcision are just as weak as the reasons for it.
Imagine getting this done now you are grown up?
Doctor: Here, let me take a knife to your dick.
Patient: If you bring a knife anywhere near my dick, I’m going to stab you in the head.[/quote]
I don’t think it’s necessary either. But if the parents want to do it for religious or cultural reasons, I don’t think the kid’s worse off in any way at all in the longterm
[quote]AlbertaBeef wrote:
It’s a cosmetic procedure.
Leave the boy as nature intended and when he turns 18 he can decide for himself whether or not he wants to get cut.
To force the procedure on him at birth is no different morally than female genital mutilation.
Beef[/quote]
Uh, yes. Because with most female genital ‘mutilation’ they remove the clitoris and other essential parts. Which not only results in MARKED reduced sensitivy but severe pain for many women when they have sex. That is actual mutilation. Not just a pejorative name for a harmless procedure.
Circumcision is a modern quasi religious ritual. Parents make sure their male offspring has healthy reproducing organs by a giving the local priest (doctor) the order to commence the bloody sacrifice of the prepuce.
That said, why should we try to defend not circumsizing the children? So the defendant is automatically guilty?
I believe it’s the other way round.
The scissor guys should tell us why there is a need to circumcise.
Show us evidence that uncut men are suffering more from infections, If that’s not the case - then all theories about better breeding grounds for germs aside - it is unnecessary.
Also, cut men do have to wash their dick nontheless. So what’s the point?
Perhaps the lubricant lobby has also some interest in it. Having such a dry schlong, cut men are surely more in need of astroglide et al.
In fact, when pulling all your foreskin to your cock’s tip (you must maintain a hold with your hand at the shaft while penetrating) you can slide easily into any pussy, even one as dry as our dear chancellorette.
Arguments pro (Hey, I try to be fair):
It’s easier to use a condom. The foreskin will sometimes interfere with it in unpleasant ways.
probably better if a guy doesn’t like to wash himself a lot or water is scarce (like in a third world country)
Final words: Don’t mess with nature unless it’s necessary. Leave the choice to your children. Being “a bit different” under the shower will do them no harm.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
You are very strange. I have yet to meet a person so against circumsion. I STILL have yet to meet a person that has given any valid reasons for why it’s bad as opposed to being essentially nothing-not good or bad. A large majority of men in this country are circumcised. I think we’re all doing fine.[/quote]
Yeah, well, ya know, it’s not the first time I’ve been told that.
You guys can think what you want about your equipment, do whatever you’d like with your equipment. But when someone asks for opinions on it, I am going to speak my mind. Agree or not, I don’t care. Just educate yourself before you get it cut.