Circumcision Ban

[quote]therajraj wrote:
That you can achieve the family unit you desire while maintaining your ideals.

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you fail to understand that “his ideals” are an inseperable aspect of “the family unit he desire”.

By the way, when did we start saying ‘family unit?’ Maybe I’ve always been oblivious to it’s usage. It sounds like something the Cone-heads would say. ‘The parental units.’ Mepps! Mepps!

[quote]Sloth wrote:
By the way, when did we start saying ‘family unit?’ Maybe I’ve always been oblivious to it’s usage. It sounds like something the Cone-heads would say. ‘The parental units.’ Mepps! Mepps![/quote]

Could’ve swore I picked that up from you in the same sex marriage thread when we discussed adoption

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
By the way, when did we start saying ‘family unit?’ Maybe I’ve always been oblivious to it’s usage. It sounds like something the Cone-heads would say. ‘The parental units.’ Mepps! Mepps![/quote]

Could’ve swore I picked that up from you in the same sex marriage thread when we discussed adoption[/quote]

It’s possible, I did say ‘we’ above. Only, I’m just now wondering about it. As if a veil has been lifted from mine eyes! Cone-Head speak. Definitely.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
A lot of these promise ring “virgin” girls have an “anything but” policy.

They do anything but vaginal intercourse until marriage.

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Yes, i’m sure.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
If it is your goal to marry and procreate you’ll have to let your premarital sex rule slide.[/quote]

This is not true. I’d even wager to bet that most premarital sex is initiated by the male. Well, that’s always been the case with the people I know and me.[/quote]

I said it before and I’ll say it again. You’re extremely socially unaware of how people are.

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Yes, I’m aware of your ad hominem attacks. Because you have yet to prove that I’m extremely socially unaware of how people are.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
So?[/quote]

Then it’s not a committed, it’s called concubinage.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Good or bad secular culture is here to stay.
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No, its not.

You have devoutly religious people outbreeding secular culture.

The Mormons in the US, Muslims in Europe and you would not believe how fast a society can be replaced if one group starts having children at the age of 18-20 instead of 30-35 and has 4 children instead of 1,5.

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But where did all these secular people come from in the first place? Most have parents who are religious.[/quote]

Talking about fall away rates, atheists/agnostics have the highest fall away rates.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Good or bad secular culture is here to stay.
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No, its not.

You have devoutly religious people outbreeding secular culture.

The Mormons in the US, Muslims in Europe and you would not believe how fast a society can be replaced if one group starts having children at the age of 18-20 instead of 30-35 and has 4 children instead of 1,5. [/quote]

Something to be considered is going on the assumption that you’ll achieve 100% conversion with those children. As time goes by, I think that you’ll see more and more people leave their religions because they see the nonsense that is being spouted.

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Sure, and their children will be die hard converts to religion.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Good or bad secular culture is here to stay.
[/quote]

No, its not.

You have devoutly religious people outbreeding secular culture.

The Mormons in the US, Muslims in Europe and you would not believe how fast a society can be replaced if one group starts having children at the age of 18-20 instead of 30-35 and has 4 children instead of 1,5.

[/quote]

But where did all these secular people come from in the first place? Most have parents who are religious.[/quote]

Talking about fall away rates, atheists/agnostics have the highest fall away rates.[/quote]

What do they fall away from?

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Good or bad secular culture is here to stay.
[/quote]

No, its not.

You have devoutly religious people outbreeding secular culture.

The Mormons in the US, Muslims in Europe and you would not believe how fast a society can be replaced if one group starts having children at the age of 18-20 instead of 30-35 and has 4 children instead of 1,5.

[/quote]

But where did all these secular people come from in the first place? Most have parents who are religious.[/quote]

Talking about fall away rates, atheists/agnostics have the highest fall away rates.[/quote]

What do they fall away from?[/quote]

And where are rates that you’re basing your facts on?

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Good or bad secular culture is here to stay.
[/quote]

No, its not.

You have devoutly religious people outbreeding secular culture.

The Mormons in the US, Muslims in Europe and you would not believe how fast a society can be replaced if one group starts having children at the age of 18-20 instead of 30-35 and has 4 children instead of 1,5.

[/quote]

But where did all these secular people come from in the first place? Most have parents who are religious.[/quote]

Talking about fall away rates, atheists/agnostics have the highest fall away rates.[/quote]

What do they fall away from?[/quote]

Their parents’ atheism.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Good or bad secular culture is here to stay.
[/quote]

No, its not.

You have devoutly religious people outbreeding secular culture.

The Mormons in the US, Muslims in Europe and you would not believe how fast a society can be replaced if one group starts having children at the age of 18-20 instead of 30-35 and has 4 children instead of 1,5.

[/quote]

But where did all these secular people come from in the first place? Most have parents who are religious.[/quote]

Talking about fall away rates, atheists/agnostics have the highest fall away rates.[/quote]

What do they fall away from?[/quote]

Their parents’ atheism. [/quote]

Really?

Are their like comparative numbers and stuff?

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I’m sorry are having trouble with your lack of foreskin.[/quote]

This is the gist of the situation. Western Civilization today has one end in mind…orgasm. They act rather like herion fiends about it, they throw everything out the window to get it. And, if anyone tries to stop them from reaching it it is a hate crime or someone is a prude or something.

We eat because of it, we sleep because of it, we workout because of it, we base our philosophy and theology around it.

When it comes down to circumcision…these guys have been told by someone that they are missing something, and without this piece of skin they can’t have the ultimate orgasm. So, they have been “mutilated” and it is understandable why they are upset. But, at the end of the day orgasms don’t make you happy, and not having a foreskin doesn’t take away feeling anyway. [/quote]

Busting a nut in my GF sure puts a smile on my face.[/quote]

I have no doubt it does, but does it truly make you happy to not be in a committed relationship? Objectifying your GF? I’d say each their own, but that is BS.[/quote]

Who said we’re not in a committed relationship?[/quote]

Not married.[/quote]

So?[/quote]

So where’s the committed part?

Edit: Seriously, what does it mean to be committed these days? That you’re exclusively ‘busting a nut’ (not my words) in one girl for the time being? That you’ve at least proposed? Is this The One?
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Someone needs to reevaluate their life. If you are having this much trouble coping with a post 1940’s world, you should just turn to priesthood and celibacy.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
A lot of these promise ring “virgin” girls have an “anything but” policy.

They do anything but vaginal intercourse until marriage.

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Yes, i’m sure. [/quote]

Catholic private high school near mine had the highest pregnancy rate in the country. Anecdotal, for sure, but hey teenagers aren’t horny.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:
So?[/quote]

Then it’s not a committed, it’s called concubinage. [/quote]

So you’re calling my girlfriend a concubine? I’m sure she’ll love that.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Talking about fall away rates, atheists/agnostics have the highest fall away rates.[/quote]

Stats? Link?

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I’m sorry are having trouble with your lack of foreskin.[/quote]

This is the gist of the situation. Western Civilization today has one end in mind…orgasm. They act rather like herion fiends about it, they throw everything out the window to get it. And, if anyone tries to stop them from reaching it it is a hate crime or someone is a prude or something.

We eat because of it, we sleep because of it, we workout because of it, we base our philosophy and theology around it.

When it comes down to circumcision…these guys have been told by someone that they are missing something, and without this piece of skin they can’t have the ultimate orgasm. So, they have been “mutilated” and it is understandable why they are upset. But, at the end of the day orgasms don’t make you happy, and not having a foreskin doesn’t take away feeling anyway. [/quote]

Busting a nut in my GF sure puts a smile on my face.[/quote]

I have no doubt it does, but does it truly make you happy to not be in a committed relationship? Objectifying your GF? I’d say each their own, but that is BS.[/quote]

Who said we’re not in a committed relationship?[/quote]

Not married.[/quote]

So?[/quote]

So where’s the committed part?

Edit: Seriously, what does it mean to be committed these days? That you’re exclusively ‘busting a nut’ (not my words) in one girl for the time being? That you’ve at least proposed? Is this The One?
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Someone needs to reevaluate their life. If you are having this much trouble coping with a post 1940’s world, you should just turn to priesthood and celibacy.[/quote]

So, what’s ‘committed’ mean past the 1940’s? The girly you’re presently ‘busting a nut in?’ Or the girly you’ve, you know, committed the rest of your life to? I’m asking.

Oh, and I am celibate. See? I don’t get all embarrassed. So are you engaged to her?

Oh God, raj was right.

Maybe you should become a cat person.