CHY or Whey? (Not About Pulsing, an Ultimatum)

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Hey Thibs, it looks like im going to have to reduce my supps for a little while. I was wondering which would be a better option to continue with?

CHY or Whey?
12g of CHY = 50-60g of whey anabolic properties right? so i was thinking to stick with CHY.

its costing around $150 AUS for just over a kilo (2.2 lbs) and my whey is $130 for 2kg (4.4 lbs)

I was thinking for the workout protocol: 5g leucine + 44g CHY (4 scoops) during training and three scoops (45g) of whey isolate/concentrate (very little carbs) 45 mins post workout? And of course the carbs (dextrose) will be placed during and post workout.

Or should i just go with one or the other?

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[quote]JohnConnor wrote:
Hey Thibs, it looks like im going to have to reduce my supps for a little while. I was wondering which would be a better option to continue with?

CHY or Whey?
12g of CHY = 50-60g of whey anabolic properties right? so i was thinking to stick with CHY.

its costing around $150 AUS for just over a kilo (2.2 lbs) and my whey is $130 for 2kg (4.4 lbs)

I was thinking for the workout protocol: 5g leucine + 44g CHY (4 scoops) during training and three scoops (45g) of whey isolate/concentrate (very little carbs) 45 mins post workout? And of course the carbs (dextrose) will be placed during and post workout.

Or should i just go with one or the other?

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Seems good. Go with CONCENTRATE 45 min. later, cheaper and actually better because it still contains it’s immune-enhancing microfractions.

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thanks for the speedy reply man!

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Sorry, silly question, what’s CHY?

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[quote]enrac wrote:
Sorry, silly question, what’s CHY?[/quote]

Casein hydrolysate.

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Coach -

I remember you had mentioned using CHY-based (specifically MAG-10) protein consumption plan for one of your pre-contest clients for the last 10 days to drop food bulk, etc. to make final weight.

I know that is an extreme case, but I was wondering how that choice of protein came about relative to other options …

Specifically, given that most individuals tend to have a general intolerance to dairy derived products (even if slight and it might just be bloating even with casein), if one were to need to focus on consuming a “protein shake only” based plan for regular meals (obviously inferior to actual food, but in the situation of necessity), I was wondering how you might rank the protein powders in terms of benefits from a body composition aspect (completely ignoring the need for satiety):

  1. Whey / Casein blend (think low carb Metabolic Drive)
  2. Whey Isolate
  3. Whey Concentrate
  4. Whey Hydrolysate
  5. Casein Hydrolysate
  6. Casein
  7. Other (who knows what I may have missed …)

Thanks.

Or if this is just a stupid question and it really doesn’t matter, feel free to ignore completely.

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I’m very curious: what about a [CHY + Leucine + Low-Carb Metabolic Drive] combo…especially after a protein fast (prior to protein pulse).

Seems to me the mixture has some really fast stuff going into the system which would prime the muscles for anabolism…then you get the slow release of protein into the system to ride the anabolism as long as possible.

I’m thinking, per Thibs recommendations, at least 12 grams of CHY combined with perhaps 20 grams of Metabolic Drive protein (one scoup)or more.

Seems like a winner combo to me (and, I haven’t had time to read ALL the threads unfortunately on Thibs most interesting new theories here…so someone may have already stated this mixture…and maybe Thibs already indicated why it is good or bad).

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