Chronic Sinusitis

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[quote]LoRez wrote:
Point being.

Other than “thousands of articles”, are you basing that suggestion on anything that actually makes sense?[/quote]

I am talking about actual proven cases, medical journals, and news reports of the like. Not some alternative hearsay web articles, blogs lol…

Specifically it has been very well known in putting MS into remission and there is documented evidence of several of those cases.

Here is one Helminth therapy and multiple sclerosis - PubMed

and another http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130422-feeling-ill-swallow-a-parasite

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Point being.

Other than “thousands of articles”, are you basing that suggestion on anything that actually makes sense?[/quote]

I am talking about actual proven cases, medical journals, and news reports of the like. Not some alternative hearsay web articles, blogs lol…

Specifically it has been very well known in putting MS into remission and there is documented evidence of several of those cases.

Here is one Helminth therapy and multiple sclerosis - PubMed
[/quote]

Ok…

Where’s the connection between this and, well, anything to do with chronic sinusitis? Like, say, how it helps with excessive or thick mucous, poor drainage, postnasal drip, etc.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Point being.

Other than “thousands of articles”, are you basing that suggestion on anything that actually makes sense?[/quote]

I am talking about actual proven cases, medical journals, and news reports of the like. Not some alternative hearsay web articles, blogs lol…

Specifically it has been very well known in putting MS into remission and there is documented evidence of several of those cases.

Here is one Helminth therapy and multiple sclerosis - PubMed
[/quote]

Ok…

Where’s the connection between this and, well, anything to do with chronic sinusitis? Like, say, how it helps with excessive or thick mucous, poor drainage, postnasal drip, etc.[/quote]

If there is blockages such as nasal polyps and the like or a deviated septum then thats another issue, however if there are no blockages in the sinuses like that, and I assume for you based on past medical tests and surgeries there isn’t, then you have a chronic inflammation response that just won’t settle. The hook and whip worms treat the histamine response and auto immune response that allergies and other disorders provoke, it would stop your bodies response to the sinuses and bring down inflammation. The issue is there is not enough case studies shown specifically for sinusitis, could it help? Possibly, but no absolute guarantee… It seems though pretty low risk and way less of potential complications then using steriods to control problems.

I guess mainly this is more tailored to allergic response which would cover excessive mucus, post nasal drip, sore throat and the like.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I dont know maybe try that Dr (ENT) who specializes in this shit?

Or just go ahead and ask random strangers on the internet what they have done.

Good luck. [/quote]

Lol.

Now, if you’ve done what I’ve done and seen something like 6 ENTs over the past 15 years, had a two septoplasties, some electric turbinate reduction procedure, bilateral sinus surgery, a couple rounds of allergy testing, trials of allergy meds, corticosteroids, decongestants, mucolytics, saline rinses, and even took the GI route with an upper GI endoscopy and H Pylori treatment to try and fix things… and the doctors still don’t know what’s wrong. I even ended up hospitalized once for vertigo which turned out to be because of a sinus infection (after an expensive CT and even more expensive MRI).

So in my case, I kinda care about what random strangers on the internet have to say since the traditional routes haven’t done much for me.

But I’m probably the exception.[/quote]
Now you can make this thread OP not so much, Hell just take over this thread.

Thought about changing climates?

OP go see an ENT.

[/quote]

I thought I mentioned already I have been seeing an ENT for the past 5 or 6 months, maybe I forgot to right it down… I am not really asking for advice per say, just curious if others experienced it and solutions they may have tried, for me I mentioned things I have down beyond just my ENT, and antibiotics, also was hoping for a solution I could use before surgery since its so expensive.
[/quote]
Yes putting down you had seen an ENT is important.

IF you have nasal polyps nothing is going to fix it but removing those.

The sinus cavities can become encapsulated with no blood flow to that cavity. No antibiotic in the world or any solution is going to fix it.

If your leg is broke, no matter how much rain water and happy thoughts you put into your leg, it still needs fixed.

Not being a dick, just saying the truth

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Point being.

Other than “thousands of articles”, are you basing that suggestion on anything that actually makes sense?[/quote]

I am talking about actual proven cases, medical journals, and news reports of the like. Not some alternative hearsay web articles, blogs lol…

Specifically it has been very well known in putting MS into remission and there is documented evidence of several of those cases.

Here is one Helminth therapy and multiple sclerosis - PubMed
[/quote]

Ok…

Where’s the connection between this and, well, anything to do with chronic sinusitis? Like, say, how it helps with excessive or thick mucous, poor drainage, postnasal drip, etc.[/quote]

If there is blockages such as nasal polyps and the like or a deviated septum then thats another issue, however if there are no blockages in the sinuses like that, and I assume for you based on past medical tests and surgeries there isn’t, then you have a chronic inflammation response that just won’t settle. The hook and whip worms treat the histamine response and auto immune response that allergies and other disorders provoke, it would stop your bodies response to the sinuses and bring down inflammation. The issue is there is not enough case studies shown specifically for sinusitis, could it help? Possibly, but no absolute guarantee… It seems though pretty low risk and way less of potential complications then using steriods to control problems.

I guess mainly this is more tailored to allergic response which would cover excessive mucus, post nasal drip, sore throat and the like. [/quote]

Im out, good luck

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I dont know maybe try that Dr (ENT) who specializes in this shit?

Or just go ahead and ask random strangers on the internet what they have done.

Good luck. [/quote]

Lol.

Now, if you’ve done what I’ve done and seen something like 6 ENTs over the past 15 years, had a two septoplasties, some electric turbinate reduction procedure, bilateral sinus surgery, a couple rounds of allergy testing, trials of allergy meds, corticosteroids, decongestants, mucolytics, saline rinses, and even took the GI route with an upper GI endoscopy and H Pylori treatment to try and fix things… and the doctors still don’t know what’s wrong. I even ended up hospitalized once for vertigo which turned out to be because of a sinus infection (after an expensive CT and even more expensive MRI).

So in my case, I kinda care about what random strangers on the internet have to say since the traditional routes haven’t done much for me.

But I’m probably the exception.[/quote]
Now you can make this thread OP not so much, Hell just take over this thread.

Thought about changing climates?

OP go see an ENT.

[/quote]

I thought I mentioned already I have been seeing an ENT for the past 5 or 6 months, maybe I forgot to right it down… I am not really asking for advice per say, just curious if others experienced it and solutions they may have tried, for me I mentioned things I have down beyond just my ENT, and antibiotics, also was hoping for a solution I could use before surgery since its so expensive.
[/quote]
Yes putting down you had seen an ENT is important.

IF you have nasal polyps nothing is going to fix it but removing those.

The sinus cavities can become encapsulated with no blood flow to that cavity. No antibiotic in the world or any solution is going to fix it.

If your leg is broke, no matter how much rain water and happy thoughts you put into your leg, it still needs fixed.

Not being a dick, just saying the truth[/quote]

Exactly but I don’t think me or Lo Rez have them, I was already checked by my own ENT, though it seems on those cases its obvious to remove it. Some issues though are that some people will have them removed and then new ones grow back, suggesting a chronic auto immune response issue to irritants and a harder time of finding recovery.

Thanks for the Input as well, you are obviously WAY more knowledgeable in the medical field then others and myself on this thread, I believe I read before that you were a CRNA…

and most my input is obviously not professional, I just became interested in different therapies and techniques through this experience. Wanting to share and let people know of different options out there as well.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I dont know maybe try that Dr (ENT) who specializes in this shit?

Or just go ahead and ask random strangers on the internet what they have done.

Good luck. [/quote]

Lol.

Now, if you’ve done what I’ve done and seen something like 6 ENTs over the past 15 years, had a two septoplasties, some electric turbinate reduction procedure, bilateral sinus surgery, a couple rounds of allergy testing, trials of allergy meds, corticosteroids, decongestants, mucolytics, saline rinses, and even took the GI route with an upper GI endoscopy and H Pylori treatment to try and fix things… and the doctors still don’t know what’s wrong. I even ended up hospitalized once for vertigo which turned out to be because of a sinus infection (after an expensive CT and even more expensive MRI).

So in my case, I kinda care about what random strangers on the internet have to say since the traditional routes haven’t done much for me.

But I’m probably the exception.[/quote]
Now you can make this thread OP not so much, Hell just take over this thread.

Thought about changing climates?

OP go see an ENT.

[/quote]

I thought I mentioned already I have been seeing an ENT for the past 5 or 6 months, maybe I forgot to right it down… I am not really asking for advice per say, just curious if others experienced it and solutions they may have tried, for me I mentioned things I have down beyond just my ENT, and antibiotics, also was hoping for a solution I could use before surgery since its so expensive.
[/quote]
Yes putting down you had seen an ENT is important.

IF you have nasal polyps nothing is going to fix it but removing those.

The sinus cavities can become encapsulated with no blood flow to that cavity. No antibiotic in the world or any solution is going to fix it.

If your leg is broke, no matter how much rain water and happy thoughts you put into your leg, it still needs fixed.

Not being a dick, just saying the truth[/quote]

Exactly but I don’t think me or Lo Rez have them, I was already checked by my own ENT, though it seems on those cases its obvious to remove it. Some issues though are that some people will have them removed and then new ones grow back, suggesting a chronic auto immune response issue to irritants and a harder time of finding recovery.
[/quote]
What are you going to school for?

My suggestion is move.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I dont know maybe try that Dr (ENT) who specializes in this shit?

Or just go ahead and ask random strangers on the internet what they have done.

Good luck. [/quote]

Lol.

Now, if you’ve done what I’ve done and seen something like 6 ENTs over the past 15 years, had a two septoplasties, some electric turbinate reduction procedure, bilateral sinus surgery, a couple rounds of allergy testing, trials of allergy meds, corticosteroids, decongestants, mucolytics, saline rinses, and even took the GI route with an upper GI endoscopy and H Pylori treatment to try and fix things… and the doctors still don’t know what’s wrong. I even ended up hospitalized once for vertigo which turned out to be because of a sinus infection (after an expensive CT and even more expensive MRI).

So in my case, I kinda care about what random strangers on the internet have to say since the traditional routes haven’t done much for me.

But I’m probably the exception.[/quote]
Now you can make this thread OP not so much, Hell just take over this thread.

Thought about changing climates?

OP go see an ENT.

[/quote]

I thought I mentioned already I have been seeing an ENT for the past 5 or 6 months, maybe I forgot to right it down… I am not really asking for advice per say, just curious if others experienced it and solutions they may have tried, for me I mentioned things I have down beyond just my ENT, and antibiotics, also was hoping for a solution I could use before surgery since its so expensive.
[/quote]
Yes putting down you had seen an ENT is important.

IF you have nasal polyps nothing is going to fix it but removing those.

The sinus cavities can become encapsulated with no blood flow to that cavity. No antibiotic in the world or any solution is going to fix it.

If your leg is broke, no matter how much rain water and happy thoughts you put into your leg, it still needs fixed.

Not being a dick, just saying the truth[/quote]

Exactly but I don’t think me or Lo Rez have them, I was already checked by my own ENT, though it seems on those cases its obvious to remove it. Some issues though are that some people will have them removed and then new ones grow back, suggesting a chronic auto immune response issue to irritants and a harder time of finding recovery.
[/quote]
What are you going to school for?

My suggestion is move. [/quote]

English, though I live in southern california which is one of the least places to have serious issues regarding allergies, I would at least think… Probably something in my house, in which case I am moving regardless lol.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I dont know maybe try that Dr (ENT) who specializes in this shit?

Or just go ahead and ask random strangers on the internet what they have done.

Good luck. [/quote]

Lol.

Now, if you’ve done what I’ve done and seen something like 6 ENTs over the past 15 years, had a two septoplasties, some electric turbinate reduction procedure, bilateral sinus surgery, a couple rounds of allergy testing, trials of allergy meds, corticosteroids, decongestants, mucolytics, saline rinses, and even took the GI route with an upper GI endoscopy and H Pylori treatment to try and fix things… and the doctors still don’t know what’s wrong. I even ended up hospitalized once for vertigo which turned out to be because of a sinus infection (after an expensive CT and even more expensive MRI).

So in my case, I kinda care about what random strangers on the internet have to say since the traditional routes haven’t done much for me.

But I’m probably the exception.[/quote]
Now you can make this thread OP not so much, Hell just take over this thread.

Thought about changing climates?

OP go see an ENT.

[/quote]

I thought I mentioned already I have been seeing an ENT for the past 5 or 6 months, maybe I forgot to right it down… I am not really asking for advice per say, just curious if others experienced it and solutions they may have tried, for me I mentioned things I have down beyond just my ENT, and antibiotics, also was hoping for a solution I could use before surgery since its so expensive.
[/quote]
Yes putting down you had seen an ENT is important.

IF you have nasal polyps nothing is going to fix it but removing those.

The sinus cavities can become encapsulated with no blood flow to that cavity. No antibiotic in the world or any solution is going to fix it.

If your leg is broke, no matter how much rain water and happy thoughts you put into your leg, it still needs fixed.

Not being a dick, just saying the truth[/quote]

Exactly but I don’t think me or Lo Rez have them, I was already checked by my own ENT, though it seems on those cases its obvious to remove it. Some issues though are that some people will have them removed and then new ones grow back, suggesting a chronic auto immune response issue to irritants and a harder time of finding recovery.
[/quote]
What are you going to school for?

My suggestion is move. [/quote]

English, though I live in southern california which is one of the least places to have serious issues regarding allergies, I would at least think… Probably something in my house, in which case I am moving regardless lol.[/quote]
Most sinus allergy issues are related to the environment, YOU are not doing good in that area.

So get done with school and move out of that state. Period.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
What are you going to school for?

My suggestion is move. [/quote]

English, though I live in southern california which is one of the least places to have serious issues regarding allergies, I would at least think… Probably something in my house, in which case I am moving regardless lol.[/quote]

You’re an English major? Please, please don’t become an editor.

Secondly… how did you determine it’s “probably something in your house”? “Possibly” sure, but “Probably”?

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
What are you going to school for?

My suggestion is move. [/quote]

English, though I live in southern california which is one of the least places to have serious issues regarding allergies, I would at least think… Probably something in my house, in which case I am moving regardless lol.[/quote]

You’re an English major? Please, please don’t become an editor.

Secondly… how did you determine it’s “probably something in your house”? “Possibly” sure, but “Probably”?[/quote]

Lol bad internet habits. I don’t usually make an effort to correct grammar and punctuation here. I do however make sure not to do this in school or I would fail lol. Well linguistics aside I have had issues with mold in the past, possible dust mites, and a cat in the house. I have never done allergy testing so I am not sure what I am allergic too. I have however had allergies most of my life. I also recently found mold in my water brita filter. I have only been using it the past few weeks but I have been notably sicker.

looks like this.

[photo]39519[/photo]

Pulled the photo off google but looks identical to mine. I don’t know how it happened since my filter doesn’t need to be changed for a while.

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Get rid of cat and move.

Any thing else you want to share.

You smoke?

Snort Cocaine on Thursdays

Have a blow up doll of Jennifer Aniston that you have not cleaned in 5 years?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Get rid of cat and move.

Any thing else you want to share.

You smoke?

Snort Cocaine on Thursdays

Have a blow up doll of Jennifer Aniston that you have not cleaned in 5 years?[/quote]

Haha nope, that is about all I can say. My Jennifer Aniston doll is still in prime condition!

Thanks for the help!

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
If there is blockages such as nasal polyps and the like or a deviated septum then thats another issue, however if there are no blockages in the sinuses like that, and I assume for you based on past medical tests and surgeries there isn’t, then you have a chronic inflammation response that just won’t settle.[/quote]

You really can’t just go “well, it’s not those things so it must be this”.

One of the more realistic scenarios to consider is that the sinuses and nasal passages may be hosting topical biofilm-producing bacterial colonies. Because of their location and the biofilms, they can render most oral antibiotics and nasal sprays ineffective.

It’s an option to consider if an immune response is the cause, but it’s way way way down on the list.

“It seems”? Whereas corticosteroids have proven efficacy.

And there are entire classes of medications for allergies for that exact reason.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Get rid of cat and move.

Any thing else you want to share.

You smoke?

Snort Cocaine on Thursdays

Have a blow up doll of Jennifer Aniston that you have not cleaned in 5 years?[/quote]

Haha nope, that is about all I can say. My Jennifer Aniston doll is still in prime condition!

Thanks for the help! [/quote]

Just be careful with “alternate” methods.

I am not one of those medical guys with his head in the sand, there are proven methods that are not mainstream.

But with what you are going through, if you do not want surgery.

Moving away from your current area to a different climate will probably cure most of your problems.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
I also recently found mold in my water brita filter. I have only been using it the past few weeks but I have been notably sicker.

looks like this.

[photo]39519[/photo]

Pulled the photo off google but looks identical to mine. I don’t know how it happened since my filter doesn’t need to be changed for a while. [/quote]

Maybe you should stop drinking water then? Or only drink water that contains a high concentration of antimicrobial ethanol.

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Really though, I’d try lots of hydration at first and see if that thins things at all. Personally I’d stick to something with a higher electrolyte concentration than just water… Gatorade, or probably better, the MiO FIT water enhancers… but that’s me.

Actual Sudafed, the stuff you have to sign for with pseudoephedrine (not phenylephrine), works decently well to dry things out. The 4 hour stuff seems to work much better than the 24 hour ones for me. My current doctor frowns upon using it, but it does work. This is probably best used for acute congestion.

Rinsing at least once a day with that NeilMed Sinus Rinse contraption and their saline packets.

Spicy foods now and again, spicy enough to get your nose running. Also horseradish.

As for that NAC solution I used, you can pick up NAC capsules from a health food store or GNC. Dissolve that in water with a concentration no more than 100mg per ml of water. Warm and stir until you have a clear colorless solution. Then buffer with baking soda until you reach a more neutral pH. The NAC is highly acidic on its own and will burn if you don’t buffer it. However, it is one of the few compounds proven to break down bacterial biofilms as well as mucous in general. (It’s used clinically with a vaporizer for breaking down mucous in the lungs.)

Then filter it before putting it into a nasal mister.

The protocol I used with decent success for awhile:

  1. sinus rinse, wait – this clears out the easy-to-remove mucous
  2. nac spray, wait – this breaks down biofilms and some of the remaining mucous
  3. sinus rinse, wait – this washes away the stuff you just broke down
  4. fluticasone/Flonase – now that the nasal and sinus membranes are cleaned off, combat any allergic response with a topical corticosteroid [topical relative to the membranes themselves]
  5. 10 minutes of inhaling vaporized colloidal silver from an ultrasonic humidifier – now that the biofilms are broken down, the silver ions can reach the source of the infection

I ran this by two doctors before using it, and got a “I don’t know if it will work, but it makes sense”. The colloidal silver was the biggest concern mostly because of questionable results from long term use. For a couple weeks, nobody saw any issues.

But there’s also things like Claritin and Zyrtec that should be given a serious trial too.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:
Really though, I’d try lots of hydration at first and see if that thins things at all. Personally I’d stick to something with a higher electrolyte concentration than just water… Gatorade, or probably better, the MiO FIT water enhancers… but that’s me.

Actual Sudafed, the stuff you have to sign for with pseudoephedrine (not phenylephrine), works decently well to dry things out. The 4 hour stuff seems to work much better than the 24 hour ones for me. My current doctor frowns upon using it, but it does work. This is probably best used for acute congestion.

Rinsing at least once a day with that NeilMed Sinus Rinse contraption and their saline packets.

Spicy foods now and again, spicy enough to get your nose running. Also horseradish.

As for that NAC solution I used, you can pick up NAC capsules from a health food store or GNC. Dissolve that in water with a concentration no more than 100mg per ml of water. Warm and stir until you have a clear colorless solution. Then buffer with baking soda until you reach a more neutral pH. The NAC is highly acidic on its own and will burn if you don’t buffer it. However, it is one of the few compounds proven to break down bacterial biofilms as well as mucous in general. (It’s used clinically with a vaporizer for breaking down mucous in the lungs.)

Then filter it before putting it into a nasal mister.

The protocol I used with decent success for awhile:

  1. sinus rinse, wait – this clears out the easy-to-remove mucous
  2. nac spray, wait – this breaks down biofilms and some of the remaining mucous
  3. sinus rinse, wait – this washes away the stuff you just broke down
  4. fluticasone/Flonase – now that the nasal and sinus membranes are cleaned off, combat any allergic response with a topical corticosteroid [topical relative to the membranes themselves]
  5. 10 minutes of inhaling vaporized colloidal silver from an ultrasonic humidifier – now that the biofilms are broken down, the silver ions can reach the source of the infection

I ran this by two doctors before using it, and got a “I don’t know if it will work, but it makes sense”. The colloidal silver was the biggest concern mostly because of questionable results from long term use. For a couple weeks, nobody saw any issues.

But there’s also things like Claritin and Zyrtec that should be given a serious trial too.[/quote]

Wow quite extensive but seems very helpful! I wish I could use a saline nasal spray, I was for a while but my Eustachian tubes have been chronically closing. This making the spray get into my inner ear causing loud ringing and clogged water. It could lead to infection for me as well so that is my issue with the stuff. Though it is absolutely a god sent tool for the stuff, I wish I could use it without those issues! I was using the saline bottle rinse by neti pot, as well as a colloidal silver nasal spray for a couple weeks, tried nasal steriods to no avail. The Zyrtec seems to actually dry out the membranes which makes the facial pressure much more pronounced. Something else of interest to mention because you brought up spicy food. Another last thing is I hear that dairy and wheat can trigger mucus production and allergies for some, a lot of people benefit from taking it out of their diet and gaining allergy/sinus relief.

Sinus Plumber All Natural Nasal Spray Its basically Cayenne pepper in nasal spray form.

Thanks again for your input as well Derek, I am pretty conservative with stuff I am trying and not planning on using any possible adverse therapies for too long, such as colloidal Silver which can turn skin blue if used in excess for a longer period of time.

Yes, I also heard about the Bio Films. Mentioning that when infection gets in there it is much harder to treat. Though I would have thought the strong antibiotics I took would have cleared that up.

Of course too, the hook worm therapy is not necessarily totally relevant or a cure all. It was just an interesting thing to check into, because hell even if it doesn’t cure the sinuses it may help with allergies lol. For myself I am just going to go see an Allergist and get tests done, obviously moving out as well.

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This I think is worth a try. When I was flying constantly, I would often have a sinus issue develop into an infection. Best advice I got was drink a ton of fluids (to the point I thought I’d get that sorority girl water poisoning thing). Usually clears it up in a few days.

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Really though, I’d try lots of hydration at first and see if that thins things at all. Personally I’d stick to something with a higher electrolyte concentration than just water… Gatorade, or probably better, the MiO FIT water enhancers… but that’s me.

Actual Sudafed, the stuff you have to sign for with pseudoephedrine (not phenylephrine), works decently well to dry things out. The 4 hour stuff seems to work much better than the 24 hour ones for me. My current doctor frowns upon using it, but it does work. This is probably best used for acute congestion.

Rinsing at least once a day with that NeilMed Sinus Rinse contraption and their saline packets.

Spicy foods now and again, spicy enough to get your nose running. Also horseradish.

As for that NAC solution I used, you can pick up NAC capsules from a health food store or GNC. Dissolve that in water with a concentration no more than 100mg per ml of water. Warm and stir until you have a clear colorless solution. Then buffer with baking soda until you reach a more neutral pH. The NAC is highly acidic on its own and will burn if you don’t buffer it. However, it is one of the few compounds proven to break down bacterial biofilms as well as mucous in general. (It’s used clinically with a vaporizer for breaking down mucous in the lungs.)

Then filter it before putting it into a nasal mister.

The protocol I used with decent success for awhile:

  1. sinus rinse, wait – this clears out the easy-to-remove mucous
  2. nac spray, wait – this breaks down biofilms and some of the remaining mucous
  3. sinus rinse, wait – this washes away the stuff you just broke down
  4. fluticasone/Flonase – now that the nasal and sinus membranes are cleaned off, combat any allergic response with a topical corticosteroid [topical relative to the membranes themselves]
  5. 10 minutes of inhaling vaporized colloidal silver from an ultrasonic humidifier – now that the biofilms are broken down, the silver ions can reach the source of the infection

I ran this by two doctors before using it, and got a “I don’t know if it will work, but it makes sense”. The colloidal silver was the biggest concern mostly because of questionable results from long term use. For a couple weeks, nobody saw any issues.

But there’s also things like Claritin and Zyrtec that should be given a serious trial too.[/quote]