These numbers don’t jibe with your other labs. It would be really difficult/impossible to have total T that low at the same time.What were you taking during these results?
these are other results
free t - 107.8 pg/ml (2.5-64.8)
total t - 12.30 nmol/l (9.90 - 52.40)
unfortunately i didn’t measure shbg that day
Those numbers don’t make sense IMO
Your SHBG would have to be a negative number for that to be accurate. I would question those labs honestly.
ignore free T then. Total T is valid
ignore free T then
Free T is the one that matters.
My advice is based onwhat you describe from HCG and Omnadren. Your initial up from the Omnadren comes from the short ester test in it. It hit your system quick and helped a little, but not enough because it’s not enough on it’s own. The problem is that the long ester (undecanoate) take a long time to build up to stable levels, so you can’t really judge the effects on one or two injections, it has to build up over a few months. It also take a while to leave your system once you build up. A lot of guys hate on it, but I think it’s just fine to use, it’s just different than using a single ester like cypionate. Get a shot every ten days, give it at least two months, you will have a completely different point of view on things after that.
I’m not sure what your purpose in posting was…it sounded in the beginning like you were asking for advice, but you effectively ignored and self-reasoned away some very good advice given to you.
You made a determination that you don’t need testosterone after having one injection, and your HCG protocol every 4 days was way less than optimal (given its extremely short half life). I’m thinking now that you want a magic pill and have no idea how to play the long game. You’re going to have to try ignoring what you think you know and start considering looking at this from another perspective. Listen to @hardartery, and your endo as well. He knows what he’s talking about, and it sounded to me like the endo does too, and would have gotten you where you needed to be (even if it took a little while) if you would have given them the chance and the benefit of the doubt.
My endo is female and she’s a quack. She thinks that testosterone is a remedy for all diseases. She thinks you dont need to measure estradiol, DHT and TRT has no side effects. She has no idea what PCT is.
Sounds like a great doc that will prescribe you whatever you want!
Jackpot!!
She’s a quack !
But she can prescribe T so there’s that
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I have to say you endo isn’t a complete idiot, Sustanon every 2 weeks is more than reasonable and for some is more than enough considering the multiple half lives of Sustanon. TRT treats and prevents multiple diseases, metabolic syndrome, diabetes, heart disease, cardiovascular disease PAD and many more.
Focus on dosing, if you have symptoms, lower the dosage, you feel a little better, lower the dosage again until that’s no longer true. If you can find as single ester like cypionate or enanthate and inject daily, the numbers don’t matter as much, only dosing up and down.
When I’m on TRT injecting daily, I increase the dosage until I feel good, if I increase the dose again and feel worse, then I go back down to the previous dosage and I don’t need labs doing things this way.
You previous protocol using Sustanon only needed a decrease in dosage and maybe every 14 day dosing or even once weekly dosing.
I already have high
Hematocrit - 46.7 % (39-49)
Where did you read that 46.7% was high?
Again, you need to unlearn everything you think you know, and listen to someone that has a clue…
It’ll be elevated on TRT. I dont wanna blood clots, heart attacks, strokes
Best of luck to you buddy!
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That’s not high hematocrit, high hematocrit is over 54%, this is when doctors will take necessary action to get a reduction by either suggesting a blood donation and/or a decrease in dosage.
Your hematocrit ranges are a bit narrow.
High hematocrit doesn’t cause blood clots, a form of cancer which produces high hematocrit causes blood clots. TRT doesn’t “cause” blood clots, a clotting disorder does, but these individuals shouldn’t be considered part of the general population and only make up 1-2%.
TRT can cause erythrocytosis and a lot of doctors treat it as if it were polycythemia, the cancer causing blood clots I mentioned earlier. The erythrocytosis while it can have symptoms, is easily corrected by decreasing your dosage and or blood donation.
TRT doesn’t cause prostate cancer either as once believed.
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What about people who have high T and still depressed ?