How’d I miss this? I believe there was speculation on my religious beliefs before… consider me an agnostic Hindu.
I’m a Christian and also a scientist and a bodybuilder. As such I can very confidently assert that although many think of science as an objective pursuit, is actually at least as if not more subjective and philosophical than Christianity.
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Why is this in the politics section?
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What’s the purpose of this thread? And don’t tell me it’s to “find other christian bodybuilders”, because this is the internet, not a fucking support group or match.com.
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Who gives three flying fucks if you’re both a christian and a bodybuilder. I can both get a blowjob and watch baseball at the same time. Whoop dee fucking do, let me start a thread about it.
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OP- you, like so many who are fanatically religious, are an attention whore. Please fuck off.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
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Why is this in the politics section?
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What’s the purpose of this thread? And don’t tell me it’s to “find other christian bodybuilders”, because this is the internet, not a fucking support group or match.com.
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Who gives three flying fucks if you’re both a christian and a bodybuilder. I can both get a blowjob and watch baseball at the same time. Whoop dee fucking do, let me start a thread about it.
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OP- you, like so many who are fanatically religious, are an attention whore. Please fuck off.[/quote]
It was moved by the mods - so go crawl up their panties.
Please define fanatic. You seem to be completely ignorant of its meaning if you are considering a single post “fanatical”.
I wonder if you expel this much fear and anger over people who start threads about a TV show, football, or even boxing.
I love fighting with you, but this was a little much. I mean, you lent a ton of credibility to my post and I should be thankful to you for that, but this was still over the top.
Why the hatred? Were you offended? Were you forced to click on this thread? What is it about the OP that gets you so upset?
Great job.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Why the hatred? Were you offended? Were you forced to click on this thread? What is it about the OP that gets you so upset?
Great job. [/quote]
Truthfully- because I don’t understand it. I just don’t understand.
You were here a few years ago when the rash of threads came up- “Jesus saved me”, “God loves me” whatever the fuck else it was.
No one else does this shit. No one. You don’t see “Jews for weightlifting” threads. You don’t see “Who prays to the east between sets?” You don’t see “Convert to Buddism or burn!” You don’t see “Atheists for protein powder”.
You don’t see it. Why is it that superchristians constantly feel the need to advertise their faith, which inevitably turns into pushing it down people’s throats?
There is nothing more that I hate than people trying to push their religious views down my throat. I am Catholic (not an atheist), and a sometimes dogmatic one at that even though it goes against my rational side. Do I advertise this in every thread? Do I bring up the Vatican? No. Never.
That’s the reason that I went after that cunt JpBear until she left- don’t push your shit on me, and don’t tell me your religion is more right than mine. Don’t you dare fucking tell me that me and the pope will be playing cards in hell because I don’t believe in batshit christianity.
This conversation always ends up being the same thing- a repent or die thread. Sometimes it will lead into abortion or stem cells, but more often its people spewing undeducated delcarations about whatever faith they subscribe too, and telling others their wrong.
I don’t hate christians, or christianity. It’s kind of like MMA though- I respect the fighters but hate the people that follow it and talk about it nonstop as if they have some inside track on what’s going on. Same thing with religion.
Now, excuse me, I’m going to start a thread… probably called “How do Catholics who have some issues with tenets of the Church mix the use of German Micronized Creatine with steroids, and whether one is worth taking while taking the other even if the Pope says supplements are bad.”
See you later.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Every belief (or conviction, or conclusion, or what have you) is founded upon a kind of faith. Scientists call them axioms. [/quote]
How does science fall into the realm of faith?
Axiom is not faith. It is a precise analytic statement of truth. Pure science deduced logically from axiom through the language of mathematics can be shown to be apodictically true. If science is based on faith then it has no foundation to base any of its claims – known as hypotheses*. We know this cannot be true because our livelihood relies upon that which the foundations of science has built. I do not require faith to turn on my laptop – just an electrical outlet with a flowing current.
Faith would be reserved for ideas that cannot be demonstrated to be true. Axiom does not fit this category. Sometimes I take my senses and imagination on faith but then I might be able to use science or logic to demonstrate whether they are true or not. If I cannot use either of those methods then I might take its trueness on faith. But we can’t even call it truth in the precise meaning of how truth is understood.
If all claims rely on faith then we cannot say we have any real knowledge. I may accept faith as a substitute for real knowledge in the meantime but in end it is not enough for me to just believe something to be true.
*One must not become confused with the epistemological constraints of science. Even though it does not attempt to answer the question of truth in a positive manner a claim of false or not false is a form of truth.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Why the hatred? Were you offended? Were you forced to click on this thread? What is it about the OP that gets you so upset?
Great job.
Truthfully- because I don’t understand it. I just don’t understand.
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That’s all you needed to say. Are you this hate filled over everything you don’t understand?
You say you don’t hate christians, but that is overshadowed by your vitriolic posts to the contrary.
How can a single thread be equated with forcing ANYTHING on you?
You do know that you are under no obligation whatsoever to click on threads you admittedly don’t understand, right?
Do you think your rants are going to do anything at all to dissuade these types of threads?
I don’t understand your hyper sensitivity to this subject.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
That’s all you needed to say. Are you this hate filled over everything you don’t understand?
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Oh stop.
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is [b]insane[/b].
IF it were a Jew or Muslim who came on here and said it, I’d react the same way. But…light bulb moment… they fucking don’t.
It’s not this thread-it’s the movement. I know people that “converted” to this insanity, and it changes them to the point where you don’t recognize them. It’s like brainwashing, and it’s sickening.
I frequent this forum. Pulling shit like this is going to get me pissed.
Oh fuckin stop. Because I don’t understand why they pull this shit is not a reason to not fight against it. It is what it is, they say what they say. I will respond.
Go ask JPBear, or SteveO, or any other fanatical whackjobs. But really, what the fuck do I care if it dissuades them? It might not, but I’m going to let every motherfucker on this board know exactly how I feel about religious extremists (and I’m not talking about the OP here, just the nature of the posts that have been made in the past).
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I don’t understand your hyper sensitivity to this subject. [/quote]
And I don’t understand why Texans fuck sheep and shoot shit.
Some stuff there just isn’t a middle ground on I guess.
Why do you have a crucifix in your avatar then? Why not just put a crescent up there and bang your head towards Arabia 5 times a day. LOL.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is insane.
Why do you have a crucifix in your avatar then? Why not just put a crescent up there and bang your head towards Arabia 5 times a day. LOL. [/quote]
It’s a celtic cross you dumb fuck, not a crucifix. A crucifix has Jesus on it. And the celtic cross predates Christianity’s arrival in Ireland.
Besides that, I don’t know what you’re “LOLing” about, that was the stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard in years.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is insane.
Why do you have a crucifix in your avatar then? Why not just put a crescent up there and bang your head towards Arabia 5 times a day. LOL.
And the celtic cross predates Christianity’s arrival in Ireland.
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Oh, so it’s a pre-Christian pagan religious symbol. Do you have a link so that I can read more about its pre-Christian origins?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
That’s all you needed to say. Are you this hate filled over everything you don’t understand?
Oh stop.
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Stop what? Showing you for the immature mouthy little piss ant you are, or stating the obvious.
[quote]You say you don’t hate christians, but that is overshadowed by your vitriolic posts to the contrary.
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is [b]insane[/b].[/quote]
Who said their religion is any more right? You are making shit up about this thread, plain and simple.
If you hate these people so much, start your own thread about your hatred. At least then you can build all the straw men you want to and not get called out on it.
So you would be equally full of shit. At least you don’t discriminate with your hate filled fear. That’s a good thing.
[quote]How can a single thread be equated with forcing ANYTHING on you?
It’s not this thread-it’s the movement. I know people that “converted” to this insanity, and it changes them to the point where you don’t recognize them. It’s like brainwashing, and it’s sickening.[/quote]
Big fucking deal. So you decide to throw a temper tantrum over it? People are blessed with the right to make choices. If their choices take them down a road you don’t like, tough shit. It’s none of your fucking business, now is it? But even if you are such a spoiled little child that you must throw a titty fit over the fact that people change, that is not what is being talked about in this thread. I really doubt you even read the entire thread. You got to a post you didn’t like and you reacted.
That is more a commentary on your level of maturity, or lack there of, than any subject matter discussed here. It scores no points with me, and I am sure no one else really gives a shit about what is going to set little Irish off on a rant.
Deal with it.
[quote]You do know that you are under no obligation whatsoever to click on threads you admittedly don’t understand, right?
Oh fuckin stop. Because I don’t understand why they pull this shit is not a reason to not fight against it. It is what it is, they say what they say. I will respond.[/quote]
Wow. Do you hold the same view of southern racist ignorance in the south, or is your particular brand of utter ignorance excusable for some reason?
Because I don’t understand why they pull this shit is not a reason to not fight against it.
Dude - you know I like you, but that line is beyond pathetic. If ANYONE were to use that bullshit as an excuse in this forum, you would crucify them, and you know it.
You are way too vitriolic about this subject. I know you are a knee jerk reactionary most of the time anyway - and I’m not saying that in a bad way - but holy crap, your postings in this thread are so vitriolic, you don’t even make sense.
And this is coming from a guy who actually likes your bullshit posts.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is insane.
Why do you have a crucifix in your avatar then? Why not just put a crescent up there and bang your head towards Arabia 5 times a day. LOL.
And the celtic cross predates Christianity’s arrival in Ireland.
Oh, so it’s a pre-Christian pagan religious symbol. Do you have a link so that I can read more about its pre-Christian origins?
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Man, now I know why I’ve never read your posts- you’re a dim fuckin bulb.
A Celtic cross is a symbol that combines a cross with a ring surrounding the intersection. The symbol is associated with Celtic Christianity, although it has older, pre-Christian origins. Such crosses form a major part of Celtic art. A standing Celtic cross, made of stone and often richly ornamented, is called a high cross or Irish Cross.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is insane.
Why do you have a crucifix in your avatar then? Why not just put a crescent up there and bang your head towards Arabia 5 times a day. LOL.
And the celtic cross predates Christianity’s arrival in Ireland.
Oh, so it’s a pre-Christian pagan religious symbol. Do you have a link so that I can read more about its pre-Christian origins?
Man, now I know why I’ve never read your posts- you’re a dim fuckin bulb.
A Celtic cross is a symbol that combines a cross with a ring surrounding the intersection. The symbol is associated with Celtic Christianity, although it has older, pre-Christian origins. Such crosses form a major part of Celtic art. A standing Celtic cross, made of stone and often richly ornamented, is called a high cross or Irish Cross.
Celtic cross - Wikipedia [/quote]
Yes, I read that wikipedia entry. Unfortunately, wikipedia never substantiated that claim and then went on to discuss how such crosses began appearing about the 7th century, which was when Christian evangelism began on that island. Being as stupid as I am, I tend not to believe unsubstantiated assertions from wikipedia pages, since wikipedia is already an unreliable source of information. I was just wondering if you could do the heavy-lifting for wikipedia.
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what it.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Who actually wrote the Bible, anyway? I know that it is the basis for Christian beliefs, and it does make a nice story, full of ancient creation mythology and folk tales, and is said to be the “inspired” word of God.
But isn’t all great literature the inspired word of God? So why choose to believe a collection of writings of unknown date and authorship, translated into English from supposed copies of supposed originals on ancient parchment that are unfortunately lost? Sounds kinda tricky to me.
Exactly.
It was written by ancient men, sexist ones obviously if you sit and read some of those stories.[/quote]
HAHA! That’s where you are wrong mate.
It was not written by ancient men at all but by me and a few drunk script writers from London one weekend whilst we were smashed on coke and alcohol. We thought it would be a laugh to send it back in time (with the home made time machine we had knocked up on the Friday night) just to see what happened.
What a bloody mistake, but then we were totally wankered.
Sorry.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
First- every post you make here is a big temper tantrum. Every single one. Not that I care, but you, of all people should not be trying to call me out for reactionary posts, because you’re the motherfucking poster boy for it.
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I won’t deny that I rant. But simply reading my first post in this thread makes your statement untrue. Read some of the investing shit, that makes your statement untrue.
I’m better at posting rants than you, but not all of my posts are hate-filled rants.
You know what you said is an gross overstatement.
But don’t worry - I don’t need an apology from you.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
No, I hate people who believe their religion is any more right than anyone else’s. It’s the cause of many of the world’s wars, and millions upon millions of lost lives based on who’s imaginary friend is more real. The idea is insane.
Why do you have a crucifix in your avatar then? Why not just put a crescent up there and bang your head towards Arabia 5 times a day. LOL.
And the celtic cross predates Christianity’s arrival in Ireland.
Oh, so it’s a pre-Christian pagan religious symbol. Do you have a link so that I can read more about its pre-Christian origins?
Man, now I know why I’ve never read your posts- you’re a dim fuckin bulb.
A Celtic cross is a symbol that combines a cross with a ring surrounding the intersection. The symbol is associated with Celtic Christianity, although it has older, pre-Christian origins. Such crosses form a major part of Celtic art. A standing Celtic cross, made of stone and often richly ornamented, is called a high cross or Irish Cross.
Yes, I read that wikipedia entry. Unfortunately, wikipedia never substantiated that claim and then went on to discuss how such crosses began appearing about the 7th century, which was when Christian evangelism began on that island. Being as stupid as I am, I tend not to believe unsubstantiated assertions from wikipedia pages, since wikipedia is already an unreliable source of information. I was just wondering if you could do the heavy-lifting for wikipedia.
The origin of the cross has many stories. It’s not strictly a Catholic symbol.
You want to know the history, go look it up. I got better things to do.[/quote]
I admit that several ethnic groups throughout history have probably figured out how to place materials orthogonally to one another such that one material bisects the other. That was never the question. I mean, the Romans were using them as a form of execution (see Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), which pre-dated Christianity. But we’re trying to figure out the origins of the Celtic cross, which appears to have purely Christian roots circa the time of St. Patrick, despite your unsubstantiated assertions.
It’s nice to see all the Christians getting along so well.
[quote]pookie wrote:
It’s nice to see all the Christians getting along so well.
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Is there a rule saying we have to?
Is there a rule saying we can’t argue?