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Friday, February 7 - Deadlift day

Deadlift
505x6 - Under cover of darkness I pulled a new 6rm. It sounds funny but it’s not a joke, one of the lights burnt out when I was warming up and I didn’t want to go looking for light bulbs. The plan was 5 reps but before I went to do this set I thought that if it feels good I would go for a 6th, it actually looks like I could have made it 7. Hook grip because I can’t pull for shit with straps.

RDL - no belt just to make it interesting
365x12 - About 7-8 RPE, not trying to die on the first day. It’s been a while

Barbell row
365x7 - I didn’t realize how much RDLs use my lats, they were the limiting factor more than my back. Yes, these are cheat rows.

Chin ups - close neutral grip
bw+60x7

Barbell row
115x17, 14

So for deadlift I’m just going to start off light and work my way back up, grinding away at triples and doubles doesn’t seem to work so great on deadlifts for me. Also I was trying to figure out what is holding me back and I think that neglecting hamstrings has something to do with it. Seems like if I go too long with any sort of RDLs my deadlift doesn’t go far, I just don’t want to put them on my squat day because it might be a little too much. I’m trying to err on the side of caution if anything.

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I think I might sign up for this meet on May 2nd:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RibhnAzmk/

Only difference is wraps can’t be over 2.5m, but that isn’t a huge deal.

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For a split second I thought that poster said row and thought perfect for you! Then I realised it was just the font and it was actually raw.

Also deadlifting in the dark doesn’t count, fake plates!

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Maybe it wasn’t even me either

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Hey Chris, hope training got better over the last month. Saw you ran into a rough patch back in early January.

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Saturday, February 8 - 2nd Bench day

Slingshot bench
430x3 - I probably should have just done a 4th rep, the 3rd slowed slightly but I definitely had another one in me. My ass stayed down on the bench though, I think my setup has to change by a few millimeters here and there, feels slightly different but I didn’t slide up the bench either.

395x7 - This must be a PR. Ass stayed down too. I’m going to start benching in a singlet as of next week to remove any possible doubt, last place I want surprises is in a meet.

Also, I watched that video of 375x3 from Monday again and realized I hit the hooks on all 3 reps, I couldn’t hear it on my little camera but on the computer I hear it. It was just way worse on the 3rd rep. I need to make sure not to set up too high on the bench, I need to be high enough to self unrack but couple inches further and I will hit the hooks or rack which can get you red lights in a meet.

JM press
265x10, 7

Neutral DB pushups
bw+light+super mini bands x10, 7 - I feel like I should switch this for something else, too much bands for my liking.

I’m trying to figure out what I will do about knee wraps. I have 2.5 SBDs, Kraits, and Super Heavies but the thing is that the 3m super heavies felt like they gave maybe 20lbs more than the kraits, minus half a meter for 6 revolutions will probably be about the same (they are harder to get tight when self wrapping) and if I wrap some other way with more wrap straight across and behind the kneecap it might be impossible to hit depth. After training I tried wrapping myself with the SBDs and kraits (one on each knee) just to see how it goes, I guess I got better at wrapping because now I can get 7 revolutions with the SBDs but I still can’t get 8 with the kraits. So I don’t really know at this point, I’m going to try the SBDs again and see how they feel now that I can get them tighter. The main complaint was that I wasn’t getting as much pop out of the bottom and they hurt, but so does everything else. The SBD wraps are actually 52% rubber according to the tag, which explains why they are hard to get tight.

What sort of rough patch are you talking about? My deadlift wasn’t cooperating until yesterday, but that’s nothing new. I found out I have and umbilical hernia and I was worried because if it gets big it can be a serious problem but mine is tiny, I just didn’t know what to do at the time.

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Well at least you found out about the problem. Anything they can do to fix the problem?

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It’s not even a problem right now, and apparently no surgeon would even operate on such a small hernia (I heard this from multiple sources including the doctor I saw) because the potential risk outweighs any benefit. It’s low risk, but there is zero benefit because it is basically nothing.

Everyone is at risk of getting a hernia, and a hernia is only a problem if either it hurts or there is intestine pushing through because the blood supply to that part of the intestine can be cut off. So basically I’m at a slightly higher risk of complications that someone who doesn’t presently have a hernia.

Jordan Feigenbaum, doctor and national level USAPL lifter, has had an umbilical hernia for over 10 years and it’s not bothering him, only after seeing his comments was I sure that I could keep lifting as normal.

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Monday, February 10 - Squat day - main objective was to figure out knee wraps since I can’t use 3m wraps in the meet I now plan to go to

Squat
Last warmup in knee sleeves:
445x1 - easy, below parallel

Warmup in wraps - SBDs - 7 revolutions
495x1 - not quite depth, I think 445 in sleeves moved a bit better, and just having these wraps on hurts a lot, like 50% worse than 3 super heavies. I remember why I don’t like these

535x2 - Kraits - 7 revolutions - it was alright, about RPE 8.5-9, could do another rep but it would be a grinder. Depth looks right about parallel, the wraps don’t feel bad at all, but in terms of carryover they are about equal to the SBDs the way I wrapped them today. A step backwards compared to the 3m super heavies

535x1 - Titan Signature Golds - 7 revs - I used these for my last meet and I thought I would give them another try. The main issue is that they really bind up at the bottom of the squat, this was probably 2-3 inches high. I only wrapped the to 6 revolutions in the meet for that reason. Rebound is about equal to the previous two, not too uncomfortable to have on but they have a hard and rough feel which scraped all around the knees like rug burn.

535x1 - Super Heavies (2.5m) - 6 revolutions - Not as comfortable as the Kraits but not terrible, big pop out of the hole, less than in the 3m pair but still good. Also this was the only rep with 535 today that actually looked like I hit depth, which is definitely a big deal. I think I’m going with these, they are at least as good as the Kraits.

So with all the other wraps I can only get 7 revolutions, maybe if someone was wrapping me I could get one more out of the kraits and SBDs but I don’t have that luxury, sig golds I can barely get 7 and there is no slack left to pull out of them. Maybe part of the problem is the way I’m wrapping, but experimenting with different wrapping styles means more fucking around and wasting time. I do the usual X over the knee style, if I have a 7th rev then the only place to put it is straight over the kneecap and behind the knee, it does add some rebound but the issue is that the extra wrap behind the knee makes it harder to hit depth so ideally I want something thicker and less stretchy (like the super heavies) that I get 6 out of or something either stretchier or longer that gives me 8. I guess I’m stuck with the super heavies, nothing seems to beat them.

If someone is wondering why I have so many fucking wraps, Nate and Reed were telling me a while back how good Super Heavies are and EliteFTS happened to have a big sale, I think it was about 50% off, I bought a few pairs of wraps for under $20US.

So back to my workout, I was supposed to do some Hatfield squats but I was already tired and demoralized and those were the last thing I wanted to do right now so I figured I would just do a set of regular comp squats without wraps to get some blood flowing in my legs again.

Squat - knee sleeves
405x5 - Could do at least 3 more reps, the plan was to go until it feels like something and 5 sounded like a good number. No problem squatting to depth on these, all this knee wrap bullshit makes me wonder what I’m trying to do here.

I was supposed to do some leg curls but I had enough for today, I don’t think they really do anything anyway. Now as I type this I think maybe I should have just done them, whatever.

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I think I just saw Prince Harry, I went to grab a burger at the McDonald’s drive thru and in an SUV behind me there was a guy who looked exactly like him behind the steering wheel wearing dark sunglasses. There was a girl sitting next to him who did no appear to be Megan Markle, maybe she is his bodyguard or something. I don’t follow those people at all but last I heard they were moving to Canada, if it’s not him then the guy could be his body double.

Next I’m going to see the queen of England waiting at a bus stop.

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@littlesleeper I see you liking my post, I totally forgot about you. Are you planning to go the EPC meet in May? I need to make sure I can get that weekend off before I sign up, but most likely that is what I’m going to do.

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I saw this and it makes me wonder what I’m doing wrong, my knees can’t be that much bigger than Yury’s. He’s getting 10 revolutions out of 2.5m phantoms.
@MarkKO

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8ZkSXMKWR7/

Squatting in wraps is one thing, but actually getting good at it is another story. I don’t think I could hit depth with that much wrap behind my knee, even with 300kg on the bar (which is what he was wrapping for it appears).

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Tell him he is knob next time

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Phantoms are stiffer than say Lilliebridge wraps IIRC too. Are you really red lining ur wraps? Absolutely no slack to pull out of em?

I feel like my Lilliebridges have a lot of stretch to them that with help I could get a dozen revs out of them or more. Self wrapping I get 8 comfortably in a spiral up and down (no x). Maybe the x loses you a rev

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I’m not really sure how they compare to the Lilliebridge wraps, apparently they are at least somewhat similar from what I was told. The thing is your legs are probably quite a bit smaller than mine (I weigh around 255-260) so I can’t really compare myself to you.

With the wraps I tried out today, no way I can get anything more out of the Sig Golds, maybe I could potentially get 8 out of the Kraits, SBDs the elastic is strong as fuck and I can’t come close to getting them fully stretched plus they hurt like hell (due to the elastic I’m guessing, they have an extra smooth exterior but that makes little difference). The Super Heavies I used today were fresh out of the package, I only tried the 3m’s so far and I initially thought these would be unusable for self wrapping but it looks like I can make them work. I could see myself getting 7 revs out of them, not easily though, I guess if I spiral up for 4 revolutions and finish like normal that could work but then again I could do that with the Kraits.

All I can say for sure is that I like the super heavies the most out of the wraps I have tried, Kraits would be number 2. Either one could give more carryover if I can get another revolution or two, but with the way I’m doing it right now the super heavies are slightly better it seems. I don’t want to fuck around with more wraps, they can only get so good. If wraps grew on trees I would the Inzer Atomics and Black Beauties as well as Phantoms, but it’s not really cheap as it is and then shipping and customs duties from the US make it worse. So fuck it, super heavies it is.

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His grip is bound to be stupid strong and he’s probably pre stretched them to hell and back. If I can get seven with them pre stretched by hand when they’re still very new I can definitely see someone like Yuri getting 10.

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He makes it look easy, I do the same thing pulling them tight before I lay down another revolution but he moves so fast it hardly looks like he’s trying. I never really found that pre stretching made much difference either, I roll them up under tension but I don’t go crazy.

What can I say, he’s the best for a reason.

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Ur cocky. Fite me IRL

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He keeps the wraps close to him as he pulls them tight. Less energy to pull out max slack that way.

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You’re the second person on this forum to challenge me to a fight in the last week, I must be doing something right.

I’m not really doing anything different, and I also pull the slack out again before I go behind the knee.

I was thinking about this and now I remember seeing a video where Brandon Lilly is show how he wraps with the red Slingshots and he didn’t even roll them up at all, they were just kind of folded up. He said something about it being easier to pull them tight like that, but again he was wrapping someone as opposed to self wrapping and doing it like that yourself would be a pain in the ass.

So I’m still on the fence on the pre-stretching thing, but for someone who finds that to make a big difference you could use a cordless drill to roll them up. I just hear stories about drills dying at the meet and the lifter relied on that and got fucked over as a result. I can just say from my own experience that the extra energy required to manually pre-stretch them to the max isn’t worth it because it fatigues your hands and it’s easier to stretch them more as you wrap.

The more I think about this the more I think I should just squat in sleeves, but it’s too late to turn back.

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