Chris_ottawa's Training Log

[chris_ottawa]

@theonecamko

@guineapig

I’m thinking like barbell havk squats and Jefferson deadlifts where you start with your nuts on the bar lol

That would put you in the position where your hips are closest to the bar, so I think you are on the right track there. Should be called “nuts on bar lift” tho or “Clam on bar lift” for all the lady lifters.

With my short arms there will be no nuts left after a few reps.

[chris_ottawa]

@theonecamko

I thought with the deadlift that the most important think(Sumo or conventional) was having your hips as close to the bar as your body allows? this could mean a higher or lower hip position depending on the persons leverages, right?

More or less. Watch Chris Duffin’s video that I just linked, he explains it better than I can.

[FlatsFarmer]

Does anybody else here know who Rodney Dangerfield was?

[theonecamko]

only from caddy shack

[chris_ottawa]

What does he have to do with anything?

[FlatsFarmer]

He was a comedian, his famous line was, " I get no respect."

Everyone cutting on your deadlift and powerbelly made me think of it.

[gaelic]

@chris_ottawa

I have bad leverages, I was trying to use a lower hip position for a while but it made the lift harder, that is why my deadlift hasn’t made a lot of progress (if any) since last summer. Based on what I learned from Chris Duffin and the other Kabuki guys, you have to strike a balance between hip height and distance from the bar.

You must, as I have already written, improve the flexibility of your hips. The more your hips will be flexible, the lower your ass will be… I’m afraid of your potential injury with this bad technique of the sumo deadlift.

@chris_ottawa

Check this guy’s bad technique. I was never going for this, I just happened to see some of his videos and realized I had the same technique as him.

He de facto does the conventional deadlift with his legs stretched. LOL

[chris_ottawa]

@gaelic

You must, as I have already written, improve the flexibility of your hips. The more your hips will be flexible, the lower your ass will be… I’m afraid of your potential injury with this bad technique of the sumo deadlift.

I think I might experiment with a wider stance after the meet, right now is not the time to make changes like that. The thing is that I’m weaker in that position and I’m already weak off the floor, going wider makes it harder to get the bar off the floor. It’s not so much a question of flexibility or mobility, it’s just that I’m weaker in a wider stance. I don’t really see this as an injury risk though, if it were a conventional deadlift then nobody would say anything about the back angle.

Greg Nuckols has an article called “Everything You Think Is Wrong With Your Deadlift Is Probably Right”, it shows that I basically have the worst possible proportions for deadlifting and also that simply putting my hips lower is not going to fix anything (I tried that and wasted a few months). The two options at this point are to widen my stance, which will result in a lower hip position and hips closer to the bar, or just get as strong as possible with my current technique. I would settle for a 700 deadlift like Dave Ricks.

[chris_ottawa]

Monday, March 12 - Main bench day

Bench Press
Paused: 365x1 - this moved well, speed off the chest is good but if you look closely you will see the bar slow slightly in the mid range (I felt it more than you can see it). I am going to do isometrics starting in two weeks to work on that.

- YouTube

Volume work - touch and go - 305x3x4 sets, 90 sec. rest

Dead bench
315x7 singles - 90 sec. rest

Wide grip bench
290x7,7,6 - didn’t want to grind out another rep so cut it at 6, this is an exercise where you don’t really want to push too close to failure because it is hard on the shoulders.

Dumbbell flys w/ mini band
35’sX13,11,10

Chin ups - neutral grip
bodyweight +20lbsX10,10,9

[gaelic]

@chris_ottawa

I think I might experiment with a wider stance after the meet, right now is not the time to make changes like that. The thing is that I’m weaker in that position and I’m already weak off the floor, going wider makes it harder to get the bar off the floor. It’s not so much a question of flexibility or mobility, it’s just that I’m weaker in a wider stance. I don’t really see this as an injury risk though, if it were a conventional deadlift then nobody would say anything about the back angle.

It’s generally recommended for the sumo deadlift to have the same length of attitude that you use in squats. In this relationship there is a positive correlation that improves both exercises… I think your habit will help you in the future.

@chris_ottawa

Bench Press

Paused: 365x1

Congratulations.

[guineapig]

@chris_ottawa

I am going to do isometrics starting in two weeks to work on that.

I dunno why but that seems like really random lol.

What do isometrics do?

[chris_ottawa]

That was the plan all along. I was doing them when I benched an easy 375, they definitely work. Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCivoA9JhvI

[chris_ottawa]

@gaelic

It’s generally recommended for the sumo deadlift to have the same length of attitude that you use in squats. In this relationship there is a positive correlation that improves both exercises… I think your habit will help you in the future.

I don’t understand what you mean by “length of attitude”, can you explain?

[chris_ottawa]

I think this video is better:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnQ_MKbe0DI

He gives an in-depth explanation in the book “Bench Press: The Science”.

[gaelic]

@chris_ottawa

I don’t understand what you mean by “length of attitude”, can you explain?

I mean the same wider stance of your legs at the sumo deadlift and squats. I hope you understand me; English has a terribly poor language vocabulary.

[chris_ottawa]

@gaelic

English has a terribly poor language vocabulary.

Maybe your English.

So you are saying that my stance should be the same for both squats and deadlifts? My deadlift stance is already quite a bit wider than for squat, going much wider for squats makes it impossible to reach depth. There are some people who did this like Ed Coan but it seems like 99% of the time sumo deadlift stance is always wider than squat stance.

[gaelic]

@chris_ottawa

Maybe your English.

I don’t speak English from birth, don’t forget, I speak the language in which you can express one word another 6-7 words.

@chris_ottawa

So you are saying that my stance should be the same for both squats and deadlifts? My deadlift stance is already quite a bit wider than for squat, going much wider for squats makes it impossible to reach depth. There are some people who did this like Ed Coan but it seems like 99% of the time sumo deadlift stance is always wider than squat stance.

You understand poorly, I don’t write strictly that you have to do it, I just recommend.

Ed Coan was and is a mutant.

[duketheslaya]

@chris_ottawa

Maybe your English.

[mortdk]

Well there is an article here on TN saying that Squat stance deadlift has great carryover to Squat and conventional DL.

Tip: Do the Squat-Stance Deadlift

It says about taking a bit wider stance than the squat but not as wide as it turns into a sumo lift.

I’m trying out a bit of both, well to be honest just for fun at the moment.
Later I think I’ll use Squat stance DL as assistance on squat day.
Sumo kills my hips

[chris_ottawa]

@gaelic

I don’t speak English from birth, don’t forget, I speak the language in which you can express one word another 6-7 words.

It’s not my first language either, I didn’t speak English until I was 4 years old. All I’m saying is don’t blame the language if you don’t know how to express yourself. I hardly ever speak Polish anymore, I can understand 99% but I have lost most of my vocabulary. At work I have to speak French, I’m pretty much at the same level as you. I understand your situation, if I ask for clarification of something you say there is no need to take offence because none is intended.