Chinese Warship Visits Japan

It begins.

This writer calls the visit “a highly symbolic display of improving ties.”

Bullshit, says I. This is a naked display of power, following shortly on the heels of China refusing the Kitty Hawk entry into Hong Kong, once the freest port in the world.

Frighten the Japanese, embarrass the Americans, and let everyone know who the new power in the Pacific is going to be. That’s what the Chinese are after. And while we put all our energy into putzing around in the Middle East, there’s nobody really to stop them.

I’m outta here.

[i]China Warship Makes 1st Visit to Japan

By ERIC TALMADGE, Associated Press Writer

A Chinese warship dropped anchor off Tokyo on Wednesday for the communist nation’s first military visit to Japan since World War II, in a highly symbolic display of improving ties between the two Asian giants.

The port call by the guided missile destroyer Shenzhen was part of a mutual exchange that will bring a Japanese warship on a visit to China at a later date. It was the first visit ever to Japan by Communist China’s People’s Liberation Army.

The Chinese ship arrived under heavy security with a Japanese destroyer as its escort and a half dozen helicopters buzzing the sky.

On board, a navy band played “Anchors Away,” while a cheering section of Chinese well-wishers brought by bus by the embassy waved Chinese flags and performed a lion dance.

During its four-day stay, the Shenzhen will be opened to the Japanese public for tours. It will also dock at the Japanese naval headquarters in Yokosuka, just south of the capital, before returning to its home base in the southern Chinese port of Zhanjiang.

Diplomatic relations between Japan and China, two nations which are increasingly vying for economic and political clout in the region, have visibly improved over the past year.

Ties hit a low two years ago over territorial disputes and Japanese leaders’ visits to a Tokyo war shrine, which many Chinese saw as inflammatory. But both sides have toned down their rhetoric and agreed to expand political and military exchanges.

China said before the Shenzhen departed for the trip that it hoped the call would “have a positive effect on the development of the relationship between the two countries and their defense departments.”

Still, distrust between Beijing and Tokyo runs deep, particularly in military issues.

Japan’s brutal invasion and occupation of much of China in the 1930s and 1940s have left a legacy of bitterness, one that Beijing has occasionally stoked to cater to nationalist sentiments.

Japanese officials, meanwhile, have repeatedly expressed concerns about China’s surging military spending in recent years, calling for more transparency.

[b]Japan and its top ally, the United States, are especially concerned with China’s growing naval capabilities and its development of submarines that can operate farther away from China’s shores for longer periods.

Washington, which has some 50,000 troops based in Japan, sees China’s military growth as a potentially destabilizing factor in Asia.

Beijing last week deeply embarrassed the U.S. by refusing to allow the USS Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier and its battle group entry into the port of Hong Kong.[/b]

The Kitty Hawk is home-ported in Japan.[/i]

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

It begins.

I’m outta here.[/quote]

Seriously, Varq? You thinking of relocating?

I agree with you - China has never abandoned its Soviet-esque ambitions of domination, it only modified the playbook to build its war machine.

You state: “it begins”. I wish I could disagree.

Yup. Didn’t you see my “Land of the Free” thread?

Alaska, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming made my short list.

Why do places with the highest degree of personal liberty have to be so fucking cold?

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

Yup. Didn’t you see my “Land of the Free” thread?[/quote]

I did - but I didn’t read it close enough to know that you were hunting specific places to move (I thought you were just striking up a debate).

[quote]Alaska, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming made my short list.

Why do places with the highest degree of personal liberty have to be so fucking cold?[/quote]

All beautiful, sorry about the cold - something about the harsh weather keeps away the urban, emasculated types, which are the ones most likely to be prone to hyperactive government programs and regulation?

A guess. :>

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Varqanir wrote:

Yup. Didn’t you see my “Land of the Free” thread?

I did - but I didn’t read it close enough to know that you were hunting specific places to move (I thought you were just striking up a debate).

Alaska, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming made my short list.

Why do places with the highest degree of personal liberty have to be so fucking cold?

All beautiful, sorry about the cold - something about the harsh weather keeps away the urban, emasculated types, which are the ones most likely to be prone to hyperactive government programs and regulation?

A guess. :>[/quote]

Good guess. As my coach used to say, “the north wind made the Vikings.”

I shall watch The 13th Warrior again and ponder that sentiment.

Like the guy said in 30 Days of Night:

To paraphrase it:

“There’s a reason why we live here. No one else can.”

Maybe that will help ya also.

The Chinese are still pissed off about Nanking, while Japan still refuses to acknowledge that the event even happened.

I am not exactly sure what game they are playing but they know.

I would get any assets out of Taiwan…

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:

I am not exactly sure what game they are playing but they know.

I would get any assets out of Taiwan…[/quote]

The US military does this thing all the time but usually avoid getting caught. We call it “war games”.

As far as Taiwan is concerned…there are many US business ventures there that are completely safe. I don’t think China is as erratic as everyone thinks it is. They are in the trade business now. They wouldn’t want to poison the cash cow.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Yup. Didn’t you see my “Land of the Free” thread?

Alaska, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming made my short list.

Why do places with the highest degree of personal liberty have to be so fucking cold?
[/quote]

You could try Arizona, New Mexico or Colorado too – just stay in the rural areas. Of course, they tend to have extreme temps as well, but at least you’ll get more sunlight in winter time…

China is flexing a lot of muscle lately. See this story as well: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/22/hongkong.us.warships.ap/index.html

After we made a stink they changed their minds.

However, I think they’re getting upset about the currency situation, as well as all of the U.S. market reaction against Chinese imports (mostly noise, but still).

International political posturing is a tricky thing to uncode, but the signals seem worrisome.