My opinion is that the way this is being handled is not effective in reducing deaths and serious complications, plus there are a lot of unnecessary restrictions in some places. Incompetent people in high places.
The issue is if that field is part of the park since people may only walk through parks, not stop and play.
It wasn’t even a park.
It’s as effective as can be given the lack of preparation and slow start. It worked in Italy. Covid 19 is everywhere in the US but Italy managed to limit the worst of it to one region.
That’s the question. The father of the kid isn’t even sure if it’s a part of the park or not.
How is something we don’t know highly relevant? How do you propose we figure this out for everyone in two huge nations while fighting a massive health crisis?
Yes. I see that you are very focused on deaths with what seems like zero or minimal focus on the number of people hospitalized which puts everyone in the hospital at risk.
Just dying from Coronavirus isn’t the issue and never has been. Death rates and who’s dying are fine to track and point out. But it’s the number of people in the hospital that is the biggest concern by far. Putting more people with Coronavirus in the hospital at risk, putting doctors and nurses at risk, putting patients with other illnesses at risk.
This is a resources crisis more than anything else. The death rate from the actual virus isn’t nearly as significant as that.
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What’s the difference? Isn’t the death rate for all illnesses correlated closer to technology’s ability to treat it than anything else?
The difference is that if the numbers from Coronavirus are so high it will have a negative impact on everything people who are in the hospital already have. The ability for people to survive from all potentially fatal illnesses in the hospital will be impacted. We don’t have unlimited doctors, nurses, beds, machines, medicines etc. If ten million people require hospitalization from the virus it is likely the virus will have a deadly effect even if no one dies from the Coronavirus itself.
So it’s a technical issue? Sounds like one that modern technology may be unable to address.
I think modern medicine can address a lot, but it’s ability to do that is based on resources. If Coronavirus wasn’t infecting so many people it wouldn’t be nearly as big a deal. It’s the number and frequency of hospitalizations that are causing the need for the reaction.
Our healthcare system simply isn’t designed to deal with such a rapid increase in the number of people needing care. Which is why the pure death rate of the virus isn’t the only concern. Most people who get the virus won’t die (based on data we have). But it is stressing the entire system in a way that is unprecedented in modern history.
I believe statistically about 30-40% of those hospitalised for covid-19 in the US are aged between 20-44, indicating the elderly may not be the only demographic particuarly at risk. Infants (below 12 months), the elderly and all in-between with pre-existing ailments are the demographics particuarly at risk.
The pre-existing ailments known to impact covid-19 prognosis such as type 2 diabetes (common complication induced via obesity), hypertension, cardiovascular disease, airway pathology etc aren’t exactly uncommon. Plenty of younger people are obese, hypertensive etc. We live within a society wherein a sedentary lifestyle is the new normal, physical health/fitness is no longer prioritised.
You can propose to keep the elderly at home… But sometimes an individual might reside in the same house as his/her parents/grandparents. This creates quite a dilemma, those going out are now potentially exposing their parents/grandparents to covid-19.
Theoretically if restrictions were loosened entirely and we adopted the “herd immunity” strategy, over one million Americans would die.
Granted, the higher hospitalisation rates within younger demographics in the US could stem from a myriad of different factors. Perhaps the younger populace is significantly unhealthier in the US compared to Canada (doubtful, but possible). Perhaps the elderly in the US aren’t going out anymore, but younger people are etc.
This really isn’t aimed at anyone in particular, I promise, but does it seem amusing to anyone else that a small group of strangers with zero ability to change how the world reacts to this virus are spending so much time arguing about it?
And again, not aimed at anyone. I’m sure people have extra time on their hands, enjoy the discussion, etc. It’s just kinda like when older people say things like “I wonder how much progress this kid could make on _____ if he didn’t spend so much time on those video games” or something.
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Well, a portion of us are in isolation with little to do… This passes the time.
As you’ve stated, some of us have extra time on our hands. It’s also interesting to hear different political bodies of thought and engage with others/challenge particular ideologies of which we don’t agree with and vice versa.
Sometimes debates and/or arguements can get slightly heated/out of hand… But generally I find this forum is far more civil than say… Facebook (groups), wherein trolling/ad hominem attacks are very common.
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Life hack: never read infowars and you will be much more intelligent for it.
Unless you’re reading it for laughs at crazy people.
Obama creating Superstorm Sandy and the Sandy hook shooting was faked with child actors are two grade A onion level sarcasm stories.
Surely they are sarcasm?
Favorite sarcastic quote from the “Lady Gaga satanic super bowl halftime performance.”
“They say she’s going to stand on top of the stadium, ruling over everyone with drones everywhere, surveilling everyone in a big swarm. To just condition them to say, ‘I am the goddess of Satan,’ ruling over them with the rise of the robots in a ritual of lesser magic.”
Now that’s comedy folks.
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Come on. That’s absurd.
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This statement here is why I’m challenging you on this. Granted there aren’t many documented cases of pandemics for any sort of statistical significance, but which pandemic didn’t stress the system in place at the time? Regardless of whether you consider it ‘modern’ or ‘ancient’ history, how is a pandemic not directly correlated, if not causally related, to technology?
Wow! Thanks, doogie. I can’t believe the MSM isn’t reporting this (but I’m not surprised).
Here are some other thought-provoking articles that somehow slipped under the radar of most brainwashed T-nationers and libtards:
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Oh I’m not even attempting to argue that others didn’t. Merely that the fear with this one is largely that. The death rate isn’t super high (though with the number infected it will kill a lot), but that’s not the big reason for social isolation. It’s the number of people requiring hospitalization and resources at the same time. The stress to the system will be unprecedented precisely because of our ability to diagnose so many other things and to have knowledge of all this.
I’m confused by what you mean here or the point you’re wanting addressed?