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[quote]rainjack wrote:
AlbertaBeef wrote:
I love the immature responses from all these people who accuse me of immaturity.

I feel sorry for freethinking Americans.

You hasve come to be quite the authority on immature responses. I have not read a single response of yours yet to suggest that you are anything but the punk-assed little bitch you are.

But I digress.

The wonderful thing about free thinking is that we are free to call you out, or flame you, or pretty much anything we feel like doing.

Agreeing with you is not a sign of free thinking.

Laughing at the death of 3000 innocent people is not proof of free thinking.

It is, though, a sign of your infantile intellect, and disconnect from real life.

I wonder just how much free thinking one can do when they still live with their parents. [/quote]

“Infantile thinking” is probably the best analysis.

He has not matured enough to have empathy for those 3000 folks who lost their lives needlessly.

It doesn’t directly effect him so he did not feel it. He’s probably never lost a close friend or relative to a tragic accident.

Hopefully, getting slapped around the message board for his immature comments has given him at least some maturity.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hopefully, getting slapped around the message board for his immature comments has given him at least some maturity.
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If so, it hasn’t kicked-in, yet.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

“Infantile thinking” is probably the best analysis.

He has not matured enough to have empathy for those 3000 folks who lost their lives needlessly.

It doesn’t directly effect him so he did not feel it. He’s probably never lost a close friend or relative to a tragic accident.

Hopefully, getting slapped around the message board for his immature comments has given him at least some maturity.
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Well then most Americans have not matured enough to have empathy for all the lives lost needlessly because of direct American military interventions or by ruthless dictators that were helped to gain power or helped to keep it by the US…

According to your reactions you are not deeply wounded and full of grieve because 3000 people died, it?s that 3000 American civilians died on your soil…

It is a whole different ballgame if it could actually happen to you and your family isn`t it?

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the concept the rest of the world talks about when it talks about war.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
And the third offers PROOF that ELVIS LIVES.

[/quote]

-crying tears of joy-
So he lives!
I always knew!
Thank you Internet, praised be the King!

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[quote]orion wrote:
Well then most Americans have not matured enough to have empathy for all the lives lost needlessly because of direct American military interventions or by ruthless dictators that were helped to gain power or helped to keep it by the US…[/quote]

This is just liberal anti-american bullshit. I am not suprised to see it originating from your keyboard as you are one of the top “hate America” folks on here.

Which US military interventions have lead to our people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings?

Have we made mistakes wrt foreign policy? Absolutely, but you are making the exact same far reaching parallels as the idiot that is equating pedophilia with religion.

I think the outrage over mass killings is there from us, regardless of the victims.

You’re damned right. AM I supposed to not feel outrage that my country was attacked? Is that what you are pissing about? That we dare take it personal?

Maybe you would give a shit if your country was attacked?

You know the rest of the world this well? I think you secretly cheered on 9/11 because the big guys got hit. I think that is more of the rest of the world than all this sympathy bullshit you are talkingabout.

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[quote]orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:

“Infantile thinking” is probably the best analysis.

He has not matured enough to have empathy for those 3000 folks who lost their lives needlessly.

It doesn’t directly effect him so he did not feel it. He’s probably never lost a close friend or relative to a tragic accident.

Hopefully, getting slapped around the message board for his immature comments has given him at least some maturity.

Well then most Americans have not matured enough to have empathy for all the lives lost needlessly because of direct American military interventions or by ruthless dictators that were helped to gain power or helped to keep it by the US…

According to your reactions you are not deeply wounded and full of grieve because 3000 people died, it?s that 3000 American civilians died on your soil…

It is a whole different ballgame if it could actually happen to you and your family isn`t it?

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the concept the rest of the world talks about when it talks about war.[/quote]

No, actually I have a great amount of empathy for all of those who have lost their lives in the war. And for their family mambers as well.

Was it General Douglas MacArthur who said “war is hell?”

But…

that doesn’t mean that our actions are wrong. Some things are just flat out nasty, but necessary.

As adults we can understand these things…well many of us do anyway.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
Well then most Americans have not matured enough to have empathy for all the lives lost needlessly because of direct American military interventions or by ruthless dictators that were helped to gain power or helped to keep it by the US…

This is just liberal anti-american bullshit. I am not suprised to see it originating from your keyboard as you are one of the top “hate America” folks on here.

Which US military interventions have lead to our people hijacking planes and flying them into buildings?

Have we made mistakes wrt foreign policy? Absolutely, but you are making the exact same far reaching parallels as the idiot that is equating pedophilia with religion.

According to your reactions you are not deeply wounded and full of grieve because 3000 people died, it?s that 3000 American civilians died on your soil…

I think the outrage over mass killings is there from us, regardless of the victims.

It is a whole different ballgame if it could actually happen to you and your family isn`t it?

You’re damned right. AM I supposed to not feel outrage that my country was attacked? Is that what you are pissing about? That we dare take it personal?

Maybe you would give a shit if your country was attacked?

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the concept the rest of the world takes about when it talks about war.

You know the rest of the world this well? I think you secretly cheered on 9/11 because the big guys got hit. I think that is more of the rest of the world than all this sympathy bullshit you are talkingabout.

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Well, if it is that simple for you, good for you…

I am absolutely sure people that have lost relatives all around the world sleep sound, knowing that they at least were not killed by a highjacked airplane, but by let`s say napalm…

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:

“Infantile thinking” is probably the best analysis.

He has not matured enough to have empathy for those 3000 folks who lost their lives needlessly.

It doesn’t directly effect him so he did not feel it. He’s probably never lost a close friend or relative to a tragic accident.

Hopefully, getting slapped around the message board for his immature comments has given him at least some maturity.

Well then most Americans have not matured enough to have empathy for all the lives lost needlessly because of direct American military interventions or by ruthless dictators that were helped to gain power or helped to keep it by the US…

According to your reactions you are not deeply wounded and full of grieve because 3000 people died, it?s that 3000 American civilians died on your soil…

It is a whole different ballgame if it could actually happen to you and your family isn`t it?

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the concept the rest of the world talks about when it talks about war.

No, actually I have a great amount of empathy for all of those who have lost their lives in the war. And for their family mambers as well.

Was it General Douglas MacArthur who said “war is hell?”

But…

that doesn’t mean that our actions are wrong. Some things are just flat out nasty, but necessary.

As adults we can understand these things…well many of us do anyway.

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Bin Laden defends the Umma, the summ of all believing people.

He does so because it is his holy duty…

I am sure he would agree that war is hell but sometimes necessary…

Is he an adult?

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[quote]rainjack wrote:

You’re damned right. AM I supposed to not feel outrage that my country was attacked? Is that what you are pissing about? That we dare take it personal?

[/quote]

This is probably what is really disturbing.

You are right, your reaction is perfectly natural, but if other people see it the same way, try to get back at you and actually succeed once…

It must be because they hate you for your freedom, right?

Through all of this thread there is this underlying assumption that American lives are worth more, are somehow special and that killing 3000 (American !!) people is unforgivable.

This is the attitude Americans are hated for, and no, not from me, because as a European I am relatively save from the consequences of that line of thinking.

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[quote]orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:

You’re damned right. AM I supposed to not feel outrage that my country was attacked? Is that what you are pissing about? That we dare take it personal?

This is probably what is really disturbing.

You are right, your reaction is perfectly natural, but if other people see it the same way, try to get back at you and actually succeed once…

It must be because they hate you for your freedom, right?

Through all of this thread there is this underlying assumption that American lives are worth more, are somehow special and that killing 3000 (American !!) people is unforgivable.

This is the attitude Americans are hated for, and no, not from me, because as a European I am relatively save from the consequences of that line of thinking.
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You mean American lives AREN’T worth more than the lives of everyone else?

HOW DARE YOU?!?! I CANNOT FATHOM THAT YOU COULD THINK THAT WAY! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE?! YOU’RE A FUCKING TERRORIST/LIBERAL/COMMUNIST!

SO LONG AS I KEEP LABELLING YOU WITH MY KINDERGARTEN-LEVEL REASONING, I DON’T HAVE TO CONSIDER YOUR ARGUMENTS!

I seriously doubt that they will ever understand that they are the exact mirror image of their enemy. They’re blindly self-richeous; brainwashed into the ideas of “my country, right or wrong!”

Beef

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I had empathy for those deaths, until America decided to use it as an excuse to go crusading across the world to spread its economic agenda under the guise of “freedom and democracy”.

When Saddam was toppled, many Iraqis held spontaneous elections to nominate the local leader of their choice. America put a stop to this and installed their own appointed leaders.

Totally there to spread freedom and democracy. Yeah. Good one.

American dominance: 1
Democracy: 0

When peaceful protests became so out of control that it forced the Americans to allow Iraq’s first election, Iraq’s first elected government’s first act was to demand a timeline for American withdrawal from their country.

America promptly states that the fact that this democratically elected government wants American troops to leave is proof that they’re not ready to have their own country yet.

American dominance: 2
Democracy: 0

In response to both these acts of imperialism by the American forces in Iraq, the people are rising up on their own through the funding of Iraqi businesses which don’t want American multinationals forced on them against their democratically-elected government’s will.

American dominance: 2
Democracy: 1

I do feel sympathy for the fact that people died.

I don’t feel sympathy for “America” as a whole because it’s used the event as an excuse to walk all over the world as if you’re the only ones this has ever happened to.

I’ve lost close friends and relatives, yes. The fact that it doesn’t affect me directly gives me a neutral point of view. If you’re directly affected, you can’t be objective.

“Maturity”: agreeing with the official story? I don’t think so. The evidence doesn’t add up.

Beef

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[quote]orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:

You’re damned right. AM I supposed to not feel outrage that my country was attacked? Is that what you are pissing about? That we dare take it personal?

This is probably what is really disturbing.

You are right, your reaction is perfectly natural, but if other people see it the same way, try to get back at you and actually succeed once…

It must be because they hate you for your freedom, right?

Through all of this thread there is this underlying assumption that American lives are worth more, are somehow special and that killing 3000 (American !!) people is unforgivable.

This is the attitude Americans are hated for, and no, not from me, because as a European I am relatively save from the consequences of that line of thinking.
[/quote]

To Americans, American lives are worth far more than other lives - especially when they are innocent lives taken at the hands of cowardly murderers.

If my attitude, make me hated, then so be it. I don’t see any of the countries that hate us so badly returning their foreign aid checks, and that includes castrated former world powers like you country.

SO they hate our swagger. Big fucking deal. Your freedom as a European was purchased with american blood - and our military installations that protected you from the East.

We have every right to walk, talk and carry ourselves with an air of superiority. We’ve fucking earned it.

FUnny thing is - I don’t run to Austrian message boards and run down your country. But you come here to do the very same thing. Difference? I could give a flying fuck about what Austria does or thinks - until they decide to come into my house and start the shit.

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[quote]AlbertaBeef wrote:
I seriously doubt that they will ever understand that they are the exact mirror image of their enemy. They’re blindly self-richeous; brainwashed into the ideas of “my country, right or wrong!”
[/quote]

You couldn’t be more wrong. Well - you could, but what does it really matter?

We are not the exact mirror inage of any country. You see - we are the the most powerful nation on the face of the planet. Were we to the mirror image, we would have to be poor, ignorant fucks that has no compassion for life.

Hate us all you want from the safety of your mother’s basement. I don’t care - until you bring your bullshit in here and start running your semen-filled mouth.

Prove the mirror image analogy with something other than your own opinion, as the words coming from your mouth are little more to me than unswallowed man-juice.

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[quote]Through all of this thread there is this underlying assumption that American lives are worth more, are somehow special and that killing 3000 (American !!) people is unforgivable.
[/quote]

3000 American civilians were deliberately targeted and killed in the course of a few hours. To me that is unforgivable. Why is that so hard to understand?

It is no different than the British members of this board reacting the same way to the bombing in London. It is equally unforgivable.

It is no different than the train bombings in India. Unforgivable.

The bombings in Madrid? Unforgivable.

I find all attacks of this nature to be equally despicable and the loss of life to be equally tragic. It is perfectly natural to react differently when your country is the target.

You are obviously clueless when it comes to knowing anything about the average American.

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A shiny quarter to the first person who can tell me why there never has been and never will be a terrorist attack on Canada.

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[quote]AlbertaBeef wrote:

I recall thinking, “Yeah? Shit happens in Israel all the time and nobody in the US cares. Man, they’re going to blow this out of proportion.”

They did. I was right. And that video is funny becase it proves the point of the effect sound can make. I thought it was hilarious.

And I’m an american.

I also recall thinking, “Now they know what it feels like.”

I grew up in a largely Muslim neighbourhood. Some of my classmates were raised in Hezbollah. Their point of view opened my eyes to “the other side”.

All that anger you people feel towards “the terrorists” and “the middle east”? They feel that towards you for exactly the same reasons. You killed their civilian brothers and sisters. It was equally unfair to them and they are equally as angry as you are.

They could give a damn that you were killing their loved ones “for freedom” as much as you don’t give a damn that they killed yours b/c “Allah” gave them “the right to vengeance”.

Someone posted Bush’s bullshit speech about “the terrorists” hating America because it is a “beacon of freedom”.

Read Osama’s letter. It clearly states that America was attacked because AMERICA ATTACKED THEM FIRST.

Anyway, I’m glad there’s at least one American out there who can see things objectively. It makes this all worth it.

Beef[/quote]

I’d love to drag your asses around my firehouse for an hour or two.

You fuckers should’ve been swallowed.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:

You’re damned right. AM I supposed to not feel outrage that my country was attacked? Is that what you are pissing about? That we dare take it personal?

This is probably what is really disturbing.

You are right, your reaction is perfectly natural, but if other people see it the same way, try to get back at you and actually succeed once…

It must be because they hate you for your freedom, right?

Through all of this thread there is this underlying assumption that American lives are worth more, are somehow special and that killing 3000 (American !!) people is unforgivable.

This is the attitude Americans are hated for, and no, not from me, because as a European I am relatively save from the consequences of that line of thinking.

To Americans, American lives are worth far more than other lives - especially when they are innocent lives taken at the hands of cowardly murderers.

If my attitude, make me hated, then so be it. I don’t see any of the countries that hate us so badly returning their foreign aid checks, and that includes castrated former world powers like you country.

SO they hate our swagger. Big fucking deal. Your freedom as a European was purchased with american blood - and our military installations that protected you from the East.

We have every right to walk, talk and carry ourselves with an air of superiority. We’ve fucking earned it.

FUnny thing is - I don’t run to Austrian message boards and run down your country. But you come here to do the very same thing. Difference? I could give a flying fuck about what Austria does or thinks - until they decide to come into my house and start the shit.

[/quote]

to keep it short:

Austria does not get any money from the US , it spends more per capita to help foreign countries than the US.

Cowards? An American pilot dropping bombs or a submarine commander starting a cruise missile => Americas finest?

Flying a plane into a building, killing yourself => cowards?

You could not even come on an Austrian message board because your German is as good as my Chinese…

Last but not least, you earned nothing. Your grandfather did, maybe your father, YOU were just born lucky.

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[quote]bigflamer wrote:

I’d love to drag your asses around my firehouse for an hour or two.

You fuckers should’ve been swallowed.

[/quote]

Yeah, that would proof that an overwhelmingly strong force does not have to have convincing arguments or be morally right, they can just bom…, um, beat the shit out of everybody…

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
A shiny quarter to the first person who can tell me why there never has been and never will be a terrorist attack on Canada.[/quote]

I’m TOTALLY guessing here, but is it because that’s how most of them get into the U.S.? Although as of late I have seen news reports that they (Canadian law enforcement) are doing quite a good job of catching them (terrorists.) -Aaron

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
A shiny quarter to the first person who can tell me why there never has been and never will be a terrorist attack on Canada.[/quote]
I guess no shiny quarters will be given out because that is a stupid question.

This is a list of terrorist attacks that occurred in Canada.
Prior to 1960

* April 7, 1868 - Thomas D'Arcy McGee is assassinated in Ottawa by an Irish nationalist.

1960s

* November 25, 1965 - Croatian nationalists bomb the Yugoslavian consulate in Toronto.
* September 22, 1966 - A bazooka attack on the Cuban embassy in Ottawa is made.
* October 5, 1966 - Anti-Castro forces bomb the offices of the Cuban trade delegation in Ottawa.
* January 29, 1967 - The Yugoslavian embassy in Ottawa and the consulate in Toronto are among six Yugoslavian offices bombed in North America.
* May 31, 1967: A small bomb explodes at the Cuba Pavilion at Expo '67 in Montreal. The attack is attributed to Cuban Nationalist Action.
* October 15, 1967: A bomb explodes at the offices of the Cuban trade delegation in Montreal.
* May 29, 1969: A bomb is placed in the doorway of the Cuban consulate in Montreal, it fails to go off.

1970s

* October 10, 1970: British diplomat James Cross and Quebec Minister of Labour Pierre Laporte are kidnapped by the Front de Lib?ration du Qu?bec (FLQ) in Montreal. (The dead body of Pierre Laporte was discovered in the trunk of a car in Montreal on October 17, 1970; Cross was released on December 3, 1970.)
* July 12, 1971: A small bomb goes off at the offices of the Cuban trade delegation in Montreal.
* April 4, 1972: Cuban official Sergio P?rez Castillo is killed by an explosion at the Cuban consulate at Montreal.
* January 21, 1974: A bomb explodes at the Cuban embassy in Ottawa. It is attributed to Orlando Bosch.
* September 22, 1976: An explosive device is thrown from a car at the Cuban consulate in Montreal.

1980s

* January 14, 1980: A large explosion significantly damages the Cuban consulate in Montreal.
* April 8, 1982 - Turkish Commercial Counselor to Canada Kani G?ng?r is paralyzed after an attack by Armenian nationalists at his Ottawa apartment.
* August 23, 1982 - Turkish military attach? to Canada, Col. Atilla Altikat, is assassinated by Armenian terrorists in Ottawa.
* October 14, 1982 - The anarchist group Direct Action bombs a Litton Industries factory north of Toronto that is manufacturing guidance devices for American cruise missiles, ten are injured.
* March 12, 1985 - A group of Armenian terrorists seize the Turkish embassy, killing a Canadian security guard
* June 23, 1985 - Air India flight 182 leaving Montreal's Mirabel International Airport is blown up mid-flight to London.
* May 26, 1986 - An attempt is made in Vancouver to assassinate Malkiat Singh Sidhu, a cabinet minister in the Indian province of Punjab
* August 28, 1988 - Indo-Canadian Times editor Tara Singh Hayer is shot and partially paralyzed
* December 6, 1989 - Anti-feminist Marc L?pine shoots 26 people at the ?cole Polytechnique de Montr?al.

1990s

* April 5, 1992 - The Iranian embassy in Ottawa is stormed by members of MEK, an Iraq-supported leftist group.
* November 18, 1995 - Newspaper editor Tara Singh Hayer is assassinated for his strident opposition to Sikh militants.