People take this too far though and apply it to too many animals. In terms of just strength, nothing to do with fighting, people greatly exaggerate the ability of animals versus humans. Great apes are extremely strong pound for pound (and just in general), but that doesnt mean all animals are. Dogs have two great strengths, endurance and bite force. They arent strong though. To some average modern day weakling I’m sure they are, but not to a strong person they’re not.[/quote]
Dogs aren’t strong, eh? Could you do that?[/quote]
a game of leverage and traction
People take this too far though and apply it to too many animals. In terms of just strength, nothing to do with fighting, people greatly exaggerate the ability of animals versus humans. Great apes are extremely strong pound for pound (and just in general), but that doesnt mean all animals are. Dogs have two great strengths, endurance and bite force. They arent strong though. To some average modern day weakling I’m sure they are, but not to a strong person they’re not.[/quote]
Dogs aren’t strong, eh? Could you do that?[/quote]
Any of ya’ll saying the dogs would kill ever been in a pen full of bulls? I’m talking about Jersey Bulls, aggressive and angry 1000lb+ battering rams, I go into a pen full of them every day with a small stick that just makes it seem like I have a freakish reach to them… Lots of bulls will stop in a charge just from an average man waving his arms. I’m not saying the dogs wouldn’t attack, but many animals change course when someone sticks their arms up and hollers at them. Upright body and forward eyes means predator to animals. No matter what this is a tragic story.
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Nah HE can’t. Mariusz can and a handful of other demigods can[/quote]
Yes I fucking personally could. 12000lbs? You have no idea how easy it is to pull something that’s on wheels. That plane they pull at WSM was something like 140,000lbs or 190,000lbs I don’t even know. Even amateur strongmen do truck pulls with vehicles at 30000lbs or more. I’m sure this sounds crazy to you, but pulling 12000lbs on wheels with the right harness and traction would actually probably feel like a joke.
Honestly, wheels are incredible things. So yes, I stand by my statement that dogs are weak. 12000lb truck pull for a tiny distance is laughable compared to the feats of men!
You don’t have to be a Big Z or Poundstone demigod to do it. That’s why those guys can do over 100k pounds with it. A strong guy like me could certainly do a measly 12,000 a lot better than that damn dog.
Why is everyone questioning what competent members of the top species on the planet can do? Do you guys know what bees do to wasps which rip them apart like they are a joke? They vastly out number the wasp, and surround it overheating it to death. A dog domestic, or wild will never kill a well built healthy human 1 on 1, there is no fucking way it will happen, 1vs11 yes but not on a 1:1 ratio.
How did this go from OT to Csulli announcing how tough he was? Csulli man, I will pay you $500 and fly to the states to watch you jump into the enclosure of the dogs and survive for a measly 10 minutes.
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Nah HE can’t. Mariusz can and a handful of other demigods can[/quote]
Yes I fucking personally could. 12000lbs? You have no idea how easy it is to pull something that’s on wheels. That plane they pull at WSM was something like 140,000lbs or 190,000lbs I don’t even know. Even amateur strongmen do truck pulls with vehicles at 30000lbs or more. I’m sure this sounds crazy to you, but pulling 12000lbs on wheels with the right harness and traction would actually probably feel like a joke.
Honestly, wheels are incredible things. So yes, I stand by my statement that dogs are weak. 12000lb truck pull for a tiny distance is laughable compared to the feats of men!
You don’t have to be a Big Z or Poundstone demigod to do it. That’s why those guys can do over 100k pounds with it. A strong guy like me could certainly do a measly 12,000 a lot better than that damn dog.[/quote]
Oh and C130’s are about 90k lbs empty, with a capacity for 64000lbs of fuel with external tanks. Max parking weight is 160000-ish. Just FYI
I’d sure as hell rather fight off 11 wild dogs, as apposed to 1 tiger,1 lion,1 bear,1 leopard,1 hyena,1 chimp, 1 gorilla,1 wolverine. and i dont mean 1 of each…
If it was my kid I’d be in there. No question. At all. If I had time before the dogs were on her (i.e. if they were circling and assessing etc like dogs often do before they attack) I would take a moment to enlist one or more specific individuals to make sure help (preferably armed zoo staff or police) and medical assistance was coming ASAP. If others present could be quickly inspired to offer direct backup, even better. Time permitting I would try to coordinate and execute some type of a super basic plan. Failing that, or if there just isn’t time, it’s on.
If I needed to go solo, would try to find the best improvised weapon I could (club and/or shield over knife), in or out of the pen. I would try to bridge the gap in such a way that I could still fight as effectively as possible when I hit the deck. I would then be as big, loud and aggressive as I could be. Most predators are much less interested in something that is actively trying to fight them. Attack the attack. I would target the Alpha dog first if I could tell which one he was. It’s about breaking their psychological will to attack as opposed to actually beating them. I say this because if it comes to an actual fight where the dogs fully engage, I’m very likely not coming out alive and almost definitely not coming out whole. It’s not about any one dog, no they don’t have super powers. It’s about ten dogs who employ team tactics to kill things much bigger than me for a living. It’s the numbers that are the problem. If you don’t see that you are not really getting it. Doesn’t matter in the least though, it’s my kid and she’s not getting torn apart by while I draw breath.
I would really like to believe I would have the courage to do the same for someone else’s child and I think it’s highly likely, but I can’t know that from the safety of my computer.
