No one here carries mace though?
Am i really the only one?
I got that shit that will make bears drown themselves…
Its always on me because my neighbors have dogs and they arent very responsible with gates…
Sprayed one a few weeks ago and it started dragging its face othe road
Id imagine a nice mist would serve as a wall between the digs and me…kid
Theyre eyes also do not tear like ours so the chemicals wouldnt run out
Yea id suffer from the spray…wouldnt get killed by them though
Strategically minded? Are you serious? There’d be no strategy. Everything would happen so fucking fast that the whole situation would be surreal. No one’s formulating a strategy while a kid is getting eaten. You’d literally have to be on the kids heels over the ledge to even hope to give him a chance. And, I’m not saying I wouldn’t jump in. Looking at my past with the way I’ve handled crazy shit, I might 've landed before the kid. I’m saying if I did, there’d be two dead bodies unless 5 + people jumped in with me and had the mind for self preservation.
For the record, right now since I don’t have kids I’d most likely jump in. I don’t think the Marine in me would let me just let the kid die. Know once I have kids would I jump in to save this strangers kid? That’s a tough call especially since I’d likely not survive. My priority would have to be for my family, but again I can’t image the Marine in me is gonna just stand by.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, YOU ARE NOT KILLING half of their pack. If they attack you, you’re probably not getting one of them. If several of those things were to go at you all at the same time, you’re nothing more thand dinner. That’s it. You and your pocket knife wouldn’t do a thing. Those things would most certainly bite through your bones, specifically the smaller ones of the hands and lower arms.[/quote]
You’re crazy man! They’re small. No way they are anywhere close to strong enough to break your arm until you’re dead and then they can spend like 3 hours gnawing through it. If you had a knife and a mind to you should be able to kill some of them if they tried to rush at you which I don’t even think they’d try.
[quote]furo wrote:
I really think 4 relatively big, fit and strategically minded men [/quote]
…and the problem is you’re not going to find 4 of those in the right place at the right time. I’m talking Average Joe and Jane here, with just yourself as the big strong capable guy.
Hopefully if there were a whole platoon of Marines on leave at the scene they’d all be in there at once, but that’s not very likely.
I would definitely jump in. The key is taking them out in pairs.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, YOU ARE NOT KILLING half of their pack. If they attack you, you’re probably not getting one of them. If several of those things were to go at you all at the same time, you’re nothing more thand dinner. That’s it. You and your pocket knife wouldn’t do a thing. Those things would most certainly bite through your bones, specifically the smaller ones of the hands and lower arms.[/quote]
You’re crazy man! They’re small. No way they are anywhere close to strong enough to break your arm until you’re dead and then they can spend like 3 hours gnawing through it. If you had a knife and a mind to you should be able to kill some of them if they tried to rush at you which I don’t even think they’d try.[/quote]
Dude, a large dog can shatter the bones of your hand and lower arm. You are seriously underestimating these dogs and overestimating your abilities. You get in that cage, you’re Alpo. That’s all there is to it.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
You’re crazy man! They’re small.[/quote]
Famous last words! And your pocket knife isn’t going to kill a dog, Rambo. I have seen a Rotweiller shot in the head with a 20 gauge shotgun, and that didn’t stop its charge.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, a large dog can shatter the bones of your hand and lower arm. You are seriously underestimating these dogs and overestimating your abilities. You get in that cage, you’re Alpo. That’s all there is to it.[/quote]
They aren’t large though! They’re 40-80lbs according to wiki, these aren’t 130lb rottweilers. I’m certain a pack of 11 rottweilers would tear me apart in no time.
And by strategically minded I just meant guys who will work together as a unit and guard each others backs, nothing advanced.
[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
You’re crazy man! They’re small.[/quote]
Famous last words! And your pocket knife isn’t going to kill a dog, Rambo. I have seen a Rotweiller shot in the head with a 20 gauge shotgun, and that didn’t stop its charge.[/quote]
Why would someone want a dog like that in their house or neighborhood at all?
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, a large dog can shatter the bones of your hand and lower arm. You are seriously underestimating these dogs and overestimating your abilities. You get in that cage, you’re Alpo. That’s all there is to it.[/quote]
They aren’t large though! They’re 40-80lbs according to wiki, these aren’t 130lb rottweilers. I’m certain a pack of 11 rottweilers would tear me apart in no time.
And by strategically minded I just meant guys who will work together as a unit and guard each others backs, nothing advanced.
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Jesus fucking Christ this is getting silly. Did you not read the stats the one poster posted? That 40-80lb dog would shatter your ulna and radius if it bit your forearm, and there’s absolutely nothing you could do about it. It would also fuck up a Rotty. These aren’t house pets. They’re built for survival and live off instinct. It’s instinct is to win.
Listen based on the anatomy pf their jaws and the physical limit of its force production it is literally physically impossible for that thing to break my arm. Some hand bones maybe, but I think they’d be more likely to get you in the legs and arms than hands. And I also believe that dogs can be killed via stabbing, you probably don’t even need a silver weapon!
[quote]furo wrote:
In term sof being killed by hunting dogs, I’d be interested to know how it would be done. [/quote]
From wiki:
[quote]To hunt larger prey, wild dogs use a closely coordinated attack, beginning with a rapid charge to stampede the herd. One wild dog then grabs the victim’s tail, while another attacks the upper lip or nose, and the remainder attempt to disembowel the animal.
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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ this is getting silly. Did you not read the stats the one poster posted? That 40-80lb dog would shatter your ulna and radius if it bit your forearm, and there’s absolutely nothing you could do about it. It would also fuck up a Rotty. These aren’t house pets. They’re built for survival and live off instinct. It’s instinct is to win.
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Well of course I’m no expert and have no experience of being attacked by wild dogs, I guess none of us can know without being in the situation. Hopefully it never comes to that eh.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, YOU ARE NOT KILLING half of their pack. If they attack you, you’re probably not getting one of them. If several of those things were to go at you all at the same time, you’re nothing more thand dinner. That’s it. You and your pocket knife wouldn’t do a thing. Those things would most certainly bite through your bones, specifically the smaller ones of the hands and lower arms.[/quote]
You’re crazy man! They’re small. No way they are anywhere close to strong enough to break your arm until you’re dead and then they can spend like 3 hours gnawing through it. If you had a knife and a mind to you should be able to kill some of them if they tried to rush at you which I don’t even think they’d try.[/quote]
Let me tell you what would happen.
Two or three would keep you occupied from the front, the rest would circle you and attack you from behind and the sides.
Once one or two have their teeth in you the rest attacks, drags you to the ground and goes for your throat.
2-3 seconds max and you are dead.
Those are pack animals that instinctively work together.
They win, you die.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
In term sof being killed by hunting dogs, I’d be interested to know how it would be done. [/quote]
From wiki:
[quote]To hunt larger prey, wild dogs use a closely coordinated attack, beginning with a rapid charge to stampede the herd. One wild dog then grabs the victim’s tail, while another attacks the upper lip or nose, and the remainder attempt to disembowel the animal.
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Thanks. That only seems to apply to something that is running away though, I wonder how they’d go about killing someone who is standing their ground. It must be harder to get a hold of them and bring them down. I guess they’d all just latch onto the lower legs and pull until the guy fell.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ this is getting silly. Did you not read the stats the one poster posted? That 40-80lb dog would shatter your ulna and radius if it bit your forearm, and there’s absolutely nothing you could do about it. It would also fuck up a Rotty. These aren’t house pets. They’re built for survival and live off instinct. It’s instinct is to win.
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Oh no way! One ot those things against a rottweiler? The African dog would be totally hosed. Rottys are like twice the size of them and have a greater bite force. You’re acting like these things are some kind of Russian genetically engineered super soldier canine. There is nothing mystical about em. They’re only flesh and bone like anything else and they’re weaker than me! You sell yourself short man.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ this is getting silly. Did you not read the stats the one poster posted? That 40-80lb dog would shatter your ulna and radius if it bit your forearm, and there’s absolutely nothing you could do about it. It would also fuck up a Rotty. These aren’t house pets. They’re built for survival and live off instinct. It’s instinct is to win.
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Oh no way! One ot those things against a rottweiler? The African dog would be totally hosed. Rottys are like twice the size of them and have a greater bite force. You’re acting like these things are some kind of Russian genetically engineered super soldier canine. There is nothing mystical about em. They’re only flesh and bone like anything else and they’re weaker than me! You sell yourself short man.[/quote]
A chimpanzee is smaller than you and 2-3 times as strong.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, YOU ARE NOT KILLING half of their pack. If they attack you, you’re probably not getting one of them. If several of those things were to go at you all at the same time, you’re nothing more thand dinner. That’s it. You and your pocket knife wouldn’t do a thing. Those things would most certainly bite through your bones, specifically the smaller ones of the hands and lower arms.[/quote]
You’re crazy man! They’re small. No way they are anywhere close to strong enough to break your arm until you’re dead and then they can spend like 3 hours gnawing through it. If you had a knife and a mind to you should be able to kill some of them if they tried to rush at you which I don’t even think they’d try.[/quote]
Dude, a large dog can shatter the bones of your hand and lower arm. You are seriously underestimating these dogs and overestimating your abilities. You get in that cage, you’re Alpo. That’s all there is to it.[/quote]
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These are not your typical domesticated dogs, bud. They will keep at you until you’re dead.
On a separate point I’m not sure why so many people seem to think that these dogs are more aggressive than certain domestic dogs. Dogs such as rottweilers and pitbulls etc have had aggression bred into them whereas wild dogs will have evolved to survive, not fight to the death. No expert though.