Chicago Bans, and Gets Sued

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.

So your whole act is a routine in order to get around the fact that you want to punish people because they think differently from you. [/quote]

Punish? Punish whom, for what? What the hell are you talking about?
[/quote]

He seems to think that ordinances against strip clubs have nothing to do with how the people operating are thinking, but their “lewdness”.

“Lewdness” however is in the eye of the beholder and I hope that he will remember his stance when they shut down his church because it “corrupts” children, also something very much in the eye of the beholder.

[/quote]

You’d have to ignore evidence to believe it corrupts children. You however don’t have to be blind to see how a brothel or strip club is lewd.[/quote]

If only they had a way of preventing children from entering, perhaps a person at the door checking Ids to make sure everyone is a certain age, 18 maybe?

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.[/quote]

Yes, most people who want to do bad things are usually okay with them. That does not mean they are still not bad and in some cases regulated. Saying someone is okay with lewd behavior is parallel to saying that someone is okay with doing something bad, from stealing to murder. Of course, why would they not be for it? They want to do it! They think it will be good for them, though they are mistaken, the ultimate reason why humans do things is because they think it is good. However, as rational creatures we are to use logic to figure out what things are good and what things are evil. However, the subjective opinion of a person does not determine whether most things are good or evil.

Quite telling that your attack of my argument is just reductionism in order to ridicule instead of putting forth a rational argument.

You’re still missing the dichotomy of action and thought. The fact that they think different is inconsequential, they have a first amendment right to have freedom of conscience and freedom of speech. Let’s take an example of the guy up in Wisconsin. What I am point out is that, he has the freedom and right to believe that whites are superior, and he has the freedom of speech to voice this opinion, and he has the right to gather with like minded people to discuss why whites are superior (or bake cookies, idk). If he owned a business, the government would not have the right to close down his business or treat him differently because he’s a white supremacist.

However, his first amendment rights do not say that he can refuse service to non-whites based on skin color. It also does not say that he can kill a bunch of Sikhs at their Temple.

See the difference between a person having a different opinion and doing something evil? The action is always evil.[/quote]

Alright.

You can still believe in a God, but if you insist on ACTING on it…

Do I get the difference now?

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.

So your whole act is a routine in order to get around the fact that you want to punish people because they think differently from you. [/quote]

Punish? Punish whom, for what? What the hell are you talking about?
[/quote]

He seems to think that ordinances against strip clubs have nothing to do with how the people operating are thinking, but their “lewdness”.

“Lewdness” however is in the eye of the beholder and I hope that he will remember his stance when they shut down his church because it “corrupts” children, also something very much in the eye of the beholder.

[/quote]

You’d have to ignore evidence to believe it corrupts children. You however don’t have to be blind to see how a brothel or strip club is lewd.[/quote]

If only they had a way of preventing children from entering, perhaps a person at the door checking Ids to make sure everyone is a certain age, 18 maybe?[/quote]

But, but, you dont get it…

What they do is leeeeeeewd and apparently people can stop other people from acting based on what they think is going on.

Cause if someone dips his dick into a hooker it causes a ripple in the force and an angel looses its wings or some such.

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I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

No, a war on masturbation.

You see, the thinking is not the problem, but if you [i] act (/i] on it, [i)lewdly[/i], God forbid, that some people will get so irate that you strangle your snake where they cannot see it that they every right to stop you.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

No, a war on masturbation.

You see, the thinking is not the problem, but if you [i] act (/i] on it, [i)lewdly[/i], God forbid, that some people will get so irate that you strangle your snake where they cannot see it that they every right to stop you. [/quote]

This is true evidence that Romney is all for smaller government , why did I not see this before . I will surely vote for him now

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I think all little boys should have to go back to the Sears and Roebucks catalog to get their porn

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

To be fair, he specifically mentions filters that can be turned on by parents so their kids don’t see porn. Not exactly a radically puritan idea. A lot of people I know would probably have benefited from something like that growing up.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

To be fair, he specifically mentions filters that can be turned on by parents so their kids don’t see porn. Not exactly a radically puritan idea. A lot of people I know would probably have benefited from something like that growing up.[/quote]

I am sure this feature would add no cost to a computer and I am sure it would never malfunction and whoo is being fair :slight_smile:

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

To be fair, he specifically mentions filters that can be turned on by parents so their kids don’t see porn. Not exactly a radically puritan idea. A lot of people I know would probably have benefited from something like that growing up.[/quote]

I agree.

We needed to beg, steal or bribe us into porn possession, many an older brother was bribed with alcohol to get us some VHS tapes.

Nowadays, all they need is internet access and they get Finnish inter species reindeer porn.

Two weeks of that and they are more confused at 13 than I was at 20.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

To be fair, he specifically mentions filters that can be turned on by parents so their kids don’t see porn. Not exactly a radically puritan idea. A lot of people I know would probably have benefited from something like that growing up.[/quote]

I am sure this feature would add no cost to a computer and I am sure it would never malfunction and whoo is being fair :)[/quote]

Malfunction?

This would be hacked in 2 seconds.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

To be fair, he specifically mentions filters that can be turned on by parents so their kids don’t see porn. Not exactly a radically puritan idea. A lot of people I know would probably have benefited from something like that growing up.[/quote]

People would definitely benefit from it now.

Back in my day we had to steal porn from a corner store. We’d still look at porn, but we’d learn a valuable trade in the process.

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It is easy for you nerds . But try to be technologically challenged and you have a different game

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[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am also concerned about this raging problem. What we need is more regulation on computers . I think we need to declare war on porn [/quote]

To be fair, he specifically mentions filters that can be turned on by parents so their kids don’t see porn. Not exactly a radically puritan idea. A lot of people I know would probably have benefited from something like that growing up.[/quote]

People would definitely benefit from it now.

Back in my day we had to steal porn from a corner store. We’d still look at porn, but we’d learn a valuable trade in the process.[/quote]

Taught you right from the start that you have to become active to get some.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.

So your whole act is a routine in order to get around the fact that you want to punish people because they think differently from you. [/quote]

Punish? Punish whom, for what? What the hell are you talking about?
[/quote]

He seems to think that ordinances against strip clubs have nothing to do with how the people operating are thinking, but their “lewdness”.

“Lewdness” however is in the eye of the beholder and I hope that he will remember his stance when they shut down his church because it “corrupts” children, also something very much in the eye of the beholder.

[/quote]

You’d have to ignore evidence to believe it corrupts children. You however don’t have to be blind to see how a brothel or strip club is lewd.[/quote]

If only they had a way of preventing children from entering, perhaps a person at the door checking Ids to make sure everyone is a certain age, 18 maybe?[/quote]

It’s still lewd under or over 18.

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[quote]orion wrote:
But, but, you dont get it…

What they do is leeeeeeewd and apparently people can stop other people from acting based on what they think is going on.

Cause if someone dips his dick into a hooker it causes a ripple in the force and an angel looses its wings or some such. [/quote]

Great, now we’re just denying the definition of things.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.

So your whole act is a routine in order to get around the fact that you want to punish people because they think differently from you. [/quote]

Punish? Punish whom, for what? What the hell are you talking about?
[/quote]

He seems to think that ordinances against strip clubs have nothing to do with how the people operating are thinking, but their “lewdness”.

“Lewdness” however is in the eye of the beholder and I hope that he will remember his stance when they shut down his church because it “corrupts” children, also something very much in the eye of the beholder.

[/quote]

You’d have to ignore evidence to believe it corrupts children. You however don’t have to be blind to see how a brothel or strip club is lewd.[/quote]

If only they had a way of preventing children from entering, perhaps a person at the door checking Ids to make sure everyone is a certain age, 18 maybe?[/quote]

It’s still lewd under or over 18.[/quote]

says you

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.

So your whole act is a routine in order to get around the fact that you want to punish people because they think differently from you. [/quote]

Punish? Punish whom, for what? What the hell are you talking about?
[/quote]

He seems to think that ordinances against strip clubs have nothing to do with how the people operating are thinking, but their “lewdness”.

“Lewdness” however is in the eye of the beholder and I hope that he will remember his stance when they shut down his church because it “corrupts” children, also something very much in the eye of the beholder.

[/quote]

You’d have to ignore evidence to believe it corrupts children. You however don’t have to be blind to see how a brothel or strip club is lewd.[/quote]

If only they had a way of preventing children from entering, perhaps a person at the door checking Ids to make sure everyone is a certain age, 18 maybe?[/quote]

It’s still lewd under or over 18.[/quote]

says you
[/quote]

He must visit them frequently then to know what goes on inside. Or hes just speculating which I can do the same for the catholic church, all that child molesting going on inside, now that is lewd!

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Lewd behavior?

So what bothers you is what you think goes on behind closed doors?

Think about that when they come for your evil indoctrinating churches.
[/quote]

Is this even serious?[/quote]

Yes, you consider some things lewd that other people are okay with.

So your whole act is a routine in order to get around the fact that you want to punish people because they think differently from you. [/quote]

Punish? Punish whom, for what? What the hell are you talking about?
[/quote]

He seems to think that ordinances against strip clubs have nothing to do with how the people operating are thinking, but their “lewdness”.

“Lewdness” however is in the eye of the beholder and I hope that he will remember his stance when they shut down his church because it “corrupts” children, also something very much in the eye of the beholder.

[/quote]

You’d have to ignore evidence to believe it corrupts children. You however don’t have to be blind to see how a brothel or strip club is lewd.[/quote]

If only they had a way of preventing children from entering, perhaps a person at the door checking Ids to make sure everyone is a certain age, 18 maybe?[/quote]

It’s still lewd under or over 18.[/quote]

says you
[/quote]

Says the law.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:
He must visit them frequently then to know what goes on inside. Or hes just speculating which I can do the same for the catholic church, all that child molesting going on inside, now that is lewd![/quote]

I see. So, I have to frequent strip clubs and brothels to know that they are lewd? Explain this.

Yes, if there was actually all that child molesting going on that would be called lewd molestation. Back on topic, I know it’s tough, maybe you can actually, now, put forth a logical argument against why behaving in a manner considered lewd by the law and having beliefs that a governmental agent disagrees with is the same grounds to attempt to shut down a business.

Though, you seem to think shutting down a business based on what the owner believes is a good enough reason, though if something is considered lewd, that is not good enough because it violates some imaginary freedom to do whatever that you wish without responsibility.