Even though I now live in California, I grew up in West Virginia. I laugh when I hear these jokes linking incest with West Virginia (because they are so ridiculous), however, I think others from the Mountain State might not find it that funny. Cheney must really be trying to lose West Virginia for the Republicans this Fall 
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/cheney-apologizes-to-west-virginia/?hp
[quote]entheogens wrote:
Even though I now live in California, I grew up in West Virginia. I laugh when I hear these jokes linking incest with West Virginia (because they are so ridiculous), however, I think others from the Mountain State might not find it that funny. Cheney must really be trying to lose West Virginia for the Republicans this Fall
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/cheney-apologizes-to-west-virginia/?hp
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I’m willing to bet money that the mean IQ in W. Virginia is higher than California also, and probably DC.
You know… I remember watching the Jon Stewart show a few weeks ago, and he did a cute little bit about the people in West Virginia who overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. Of course he took all the interviews from the sterotypical “inbred hick” and just had a cute little 10 minute bit with it.
I don’t understand the hypocrisy here, Cheney has to apologize for making a comment, probably in reference to the media coverage of all the West Virginia “stupid white trash” who voted for Clinton, but Jon Stewart can dedicated an entire 10 minute bit to all the West Virginia “stupid white trash” who voted for Clinton, and he gets a free pass.
Here, I found it!
Does Jon Stewart really believe that all the people in West Virginia are racist, stupid, poor, and white?
Shooting lawyers in the face is easy.
Comedy is hard.
Cheney is hysterical.
Did anyone see his speech to the press club at their annual dinner? Normally the President gives it but he was meeting with the Pope. Quite funny.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
I don’t understand the hypocrisy here, Cheney has to apologize for making a comment, probably in reference to the media coverage of all the West Virginia “stupid white trash” who voted for Clinton, but Jon Stewart can dedicated an entire 10 minute bit to all the West Virginia “stupid white trash” who voted for Clinton, and he gets a free pass.[/quote]
Is Dick Cheney a politician or a comedian?
Oh and I watched the clip: Get over it -_- It was funny. Do you know how many asshole-New Yorker jokes get passed around every day on the news? Yeah. Still funny.
What, no outcry?
Something seems a bit inconsistent…
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
You know… I remember watching the Jon Stewart show a few weeks ago, and he did a cute little bit about the people in West Virginia who overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. Of course he took all the interviews from the sterotypical “inbred hick” and just had a cute little 10 minute bit with it.
I don’t understand the hypocrisy here, Cheney has to apologize for making a comment, probably in reference to the media coverage of all the West Virginia “stupid white trash” who voted for Clinton, but Jon Stewart can dedicated an entire 10 minute bit to all the West Virginia “stupid white trash” who voted for Clinton, and he gets a free pass.[/quote]
Cheney’s a politician. Stewart’s a comedian.
Both are very good at their job.
For the past 8 years, Jon Stewart’s bread and butter has been Bush and Cheney, without them his show definitely wouldn’t have lasted as long as it has.
Comedy is incredibly easy when your main source of material is Bush, take Bill Maher for another prime example. 8 years ago it was “Bill WHO?”, now that retard has his own HBO show.
Without Bush, many of today’s comedians’ bits would only be 5 or 6 minutes long. Yes, comedy is incredibly easy when your main source of material is Bush.
Another thing I hate about Stewart is that he claims to be a mere comedian and therefore he is infalliable and cannot be criticized for his crticism of Bush and Cheney, but he continues to push an obvious bias on his show which does, at times, come across as a news show where he gets to do his cute little “I hate Bush” monolouge every night. Just like…Olbermann…
I only watch his stupid show because of Rob Riggle.
Fuck Stewart, I guarantee he will retire after Obama gets elected.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
For the past 8 years, Jon Stewart’s bread and butter has been Bush and Cheney, without them his show definitely wouldn’t have lasted as long as it has.
Comedy is incredibly easy when your main source of material is Bush, take Bill Maher for another prime example. 8 years ago it was “Bill WHO?”, now that retard has his own HBO show.
Without Bush, many of today’s comedians’ bits would only be 5 or 6 minutes long. Yes, comedy is incredibly easy when your main source of material is Bush.
Another thing I hate about Stewart is that he claims to be a mere comedian and therefore he is infalliable and cannot be criticized for his crticism of Bush and Cheney, but he continues to push an obvious bias on his show which does, at times, come across as a news show where he gets to do his cute little “I hate Bush” monolouge every night. Just like…Olbermann…
I only watch his stupid show because of Rob Riggle.
Fuck Stewart, I guarantee he will retire after Obama gets elected.[/quote]
Er… the Daily Show started before Bush… and will continue after him. In fact, they’re at their best during election years, and tend to snooze a bit other wise. They make the occasional Bush joke, yes, but he’s not their main source of mocking.
They mock the retardation of the system. Yes, they lean left, but their humor doesn’t. When they talk seriously they tend to take the democrats side, but trust me when I say the humor of the show comes at the expense of the system.
If Obama is elected, he will have the same amount of material he always does, because the bureaucracy will still be retarded, Representatives will still reference Klingons (spelling?), pro-life politicians will still bring children holding plastic fetuses to a protest, and there will still be organizations like Guns for Tots that make more than half the country facepalm.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Here, I found it!
Does Jon Stewart really believe that all the people in West Virginia are racist, stupid, poor, and white?[/quote]
He probably does think that.
Look, I am not trying to be politically correct here. Surely, Cheney is not the first or last person to make in-breeding jokes about West Virginia. However, the stereotype is rather prevalent, and I think the people of West Virgina are rather tired of it. I don’t know exactly where the dividing line between a good-natured joke and a really hateful, hurtful one lies, but I suspect the jokes about West Virginia have crossed that thresh-hold. I mean, often, I have found that this stereotype is the first thing that comes to mind with people who have never been to West Virginia or even met someone from West Virginia.
I think these jokes are as bad (mean-spirited and damaging) as racist jokes you hear.
[quote]entheogens wrote:
I think these jokes are as bad (mean-spirited and damaging) as racist jokes you hear.[/quote]
I agree, in part.
I’m not one for political correctness, and I like politicians to speak their mind, and I like politicians that have enough of a sense of humor to have some color to their otherwise scrubbed-for-soundbyte-sterility presentations.
But, a national politician trafficking in that stereotype is just not acceptable, even if it is cloaked in humor.
As an aside, the Appalachian folks can’t catch a break, can they?
I live in Arkansas, so I TOTALLY can’t relate to any of that. By the by, can anyone loan me some shoes, toothpaste, and moonshine?
kthxbai
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
As an aside, the Appalachian folks can’t catch a break, can they?[/quote]
That’s an understatement!!! Here’s the thing. If Obama had actually spent more time in West Virginia or Kentucky he could have got a lot more votes. If he is perceived as “elitist”, it is because he did not do that. For goodness sakes, JFK did great in West Virginia as did his brother Bobby. You don’t get more New England, blue-blood, elitist than that! The latter did a one day road tour through tour the coal towns of southern West Virgina and that’s all it took. The young entheogens was even there to see the parade through his town
People from Appalachia just want to be recognized. They feel forgotten. I don’t think Obama succeded in that. That’s why he lost his ass there…I think this is a bigger factor than racism.