[quote]Vegita wrote:
Here is your first post in this thread, V[/quote]
Hold up, why would you go to that post when I answered your directly as far as your question? That should have cleared up any problems you had with understanding what was meant.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
hedo wrote:
Perhaps you’ll pose a topic one day?
I have…but you knew that, right?
No great one…I didn’t that’s why I asked the question.
Most of your posts belittle others, defend something else you said, or mock the fact someone else has an opposing thought.
Good day.
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You didn’t ask if I had ever posted one. Your “question” implied that I never had. You could call that belittling…but of course you are above all of that.
Elkhntr1, just remember truth is the first casualty of war.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Conspiracy freaks.
Look, if there happens to be good news and bad news, which one do you think is the “real” news.
Hmm, which one will scare the audience or grab their attention more?
Sure, it may be under reported, but for goodness sakes, relax politically already.[/quote]
Doesn’t the consistent under reporting equal a bias? If the MSM is trying not to show a bias there would be an equal number of stories about the war. I don’t think anyone would argue that is the case.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Here is your first post in this thread, V
Hold up, why would you go to that post when I answered your directly as far as your question? That should have cleared up any problems you had with understanding what was meant. [/quote]
Nope, sorry, can’t keep dodging this one. Forget what you thought I was getting at, when I ask a question, I ask directly what I want to know… don’t think your so smart that you know what I was really after.
So again…Does posting soely a positive or negative story disqualify it entirely for the fact that it only paints one half of the picture? Assuming the exact same standards of information gathering and outline of the way the material is presented. You posted that you thought a one sided good post didn’t mean anything because it was misleading and didn’t paint the whole picture… are you backing away from this statement now? Because if you aren’t then that means you also have to dismiss every bad story because they are only painting half the picture as well.
V
Both half stories may be just as wrong, but which headling sells more papers?
- 21 die in Iraq.
- Charming schoolhouse built in Iraq.
Dammit, it’s a moneymaking conspiracy is what it is! Boohoo, this world is so unfair… it never does things exactly the way I’d like them to be done.
Start your own cheesetastic newspaper and we wouldn’t have this problem.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Start your own cheesetastic newspaper and we wouldn’t have this problem.[/quote]
Isn’t this exactly what lotharios whole fucking point was…
I understand bad news sells more papers, stop acting like were a bunch of tards. I don’t have to like the fact that bad news sells, neither does the rest of us. You guys are so on the attack over a thread about good news, how fucking stupid is that?
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Nope, sorry, can’t keep dodging this one.[/quote]
Right, because you are soooo threatening.
[quote]
So again…Does posting soely a positive or negative story disqualify it entirely for the fact that it only paints one half of the picture? V[/quote]
No, it doesn’t. Posting a story with no facts supporting it is what disqualifies it…for the 4th time now.
Maybe you missed the post above which explains that?
Instead of bitching and complaining about WHY there is no good news, the original series of posts could simply have said, good news doesn’t get published often… so I’m going to highlight that which I see.
This would have been a whole different ball game after that.
As for assuming you are tards (whoever that you might include I don’t know), I seem to get called on both sides of this issue. First I’m saying things nobody can actually follow, then I’m implying everyone is a bunch of tards because I’m talking about simple shit that everyone already knows.
Damn… since I’m not going to win either way, I guess I’ll just say whatever the hell I feel like… just like everyone else does.
[quote]vroom wrote:
You guys are so on the attack over a thread about good news, how fucking stupid is that?
Maybe you missed the post above which explains that?
Instead of bitching and complaining about WHY there is no good news, the original series of posts could simply have said, good news doesn’t get published often… so I’m going to highlight that which I see.
This would have been a whole different ball game after that.
As for assuming you are tards (whoever that you might include I don’t know), I seem to get called on both sides of this issue. First I’m saying things nobody can actually follow, then I’m implying everyone is a bunch of tards because I’m talking about simple shit that everyone already knows.
Damn… since I’m not going to win either way, I guess I’ll just say whatever the hell I feel like… just like everyone else does.[/quote]
Vroom, serious question: if there is good news and it never gets published or mentioned or what have you…is it fair to look around, find it and then start wondering why it’s not mentioned in the MSM?
Really. Serious question, not trying to start a pissing contest again. I’d just like to know where your mind is on it, and please forgive me if I’ve missed you already answering it or touching on it somewhere else.
Joe, that’s a fair question.
I’m not sure I have the answer, but I think assuming it is willfully supressed is just another conspiracy theory.
It costs real money to write up a story, publish it on paper, or online, or to air it.
If your competitors are showing pictures of dead bodies and screaming wounded, while you show a picture of a new schoolhouse, you are going to lose audience and therefore money.
I’m all for a market economy, but there are things it can’t do well. It can’t resist pandering to the masses and playing on emotions. Whatever makes more money is what gets emphasized.
Balanced reporting between good and bad news is generally understood to be one of those casualties.
Whether it is a war, or your own neighborhood, the TV station shows you every single violent crime, then perhaps may stuff in a single feel good story to mollify people who bitch about the news being negative all the time.
I don’t know what the solution is, or if this is all that is going on, but it’s certainly plausible. If someone could make a lot of money showing pictures of new schools and smiling Iraqi children, don’t you think they’d be doing it?
Hell, I know I would! I’d be happy to make money off of both conservatives and liberals, the money can’t tell the difference and neither could I once it was in my own pocket…
[quote]vroom wrote:
I don’t know what the solution is, or if this is all that is going on, but it’s certainly plausible. If someone could make a lot of money showing pictures of new schools and smiling Iraqi children, don’t you think they’d be doing it?[/quote]
In any market, for several decades now, it is understood that bad news sells. That isn’t “liberal conspiracy”. It is a money issue. I personally don’t want to hear about “wonderful school houses” without knowing how they are wonderful, in what time frame they were built, and how many there actually are in the country in relation to the goal. I also still hold the opinion that an american soldier’s life is not worth that schoolhouse.
Another Base Closure–this one closer to my home town. This is pure unadulterated proof that we are winning the war on Iraq and Terror:
taken From: http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4122
BLOOMINGTON, MN?The Pentagon announced Monday that Camp Snoopy, the largest indoor family theme park in America, is one of 34 major bases scheduled for closing as part of a vast military repurposing and realignment designed to save almost $50 billion.
“We never enjoy having to close a base,” said Anthony Principi, chairman of the Pentagon’s Base Realignment and Closure Commission. “But Camp Snoopy is a relic of America’s Cold War past. Everything in the facility?from the Petting Zoo to the Extreme Trampoline to the Pepsi Ripsaw Roller Coaster?was conceived at a time when America’s primary military threat was the Soviet Union. After careful evaluation, we determined that the only thing Camp Snoopy was enabling our soldiers to fight was boredom.”
According to an official Pentagon statement delivered Tuesday by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, most of the 300 men and women stationed at Camp Snoopy will be honorably discharged in a ceremony to be held in front of the Rock ‘N’ Wall.
Camp Snoopy Gen. Manager Craig Freeman said the camp’s decommissioning “came out of nowhere.”
“Certainly these last couple years have brought drastic changes in the national attitude toward combat readiness,” Freeman said. “But we thought our location in America’s northern defensive tier, combined with our many indoor roller coasters and log-flume rides, would shield us from the military’s increased emphasis on small-unit tactics. I suppose that was naive.”
Ranking managers and others in highly trained positions will be posted at other bases in the Mall of America.
“I heard a rumor that I’m going to be shipped out to the Lego Imagination Center,” Coordinating Concessions Manager Steve Voorhies said. “I’m still in shock. I had a distinguished food-service record here?a record I could be proud of?and now some desk jockey at the Pentagon sends me to the mall’s South Avenue quadrant? It’s bullshit.”
“Well, I guess I knew when I signed up that they could do whatever they wanted with me,” added Voorhies, who has applied for a transfer to Jillian’s Hi Life Lanes in the mall’s Party Central.
The camp closing, scheduled for November 2005, is expected to be a major blow to the local civilian economy.
“We’ve been supplying them with everything from disposable paper goods to uniforms,” said Debra Czynsci, the chief military and entertainment sales liaison for the Cedar Fair Management Corporation. “That was close to half a billion dollars annually pumped into the Twin Cities economy. Now, with this facility shutting its gates, we’re going to have massive layoffs of our own.”
The Pentagon said that the Lego Imagination Center, the Underwater Adventures Aquarium, A.C.E.S. Flight Simulators, and various other Mall of America attractions made Camp Snoopy “redundant.”
Insiders, however, suggest that misappropriations issues involving Cedar Fair, which was once investigated for charging Camp Snoopy $479 per case of Thirsty Linus FunCups, factored heavily into the decision to decommission Camp Snoopy.
Brig. Gen. Roy Haemer, who oversaw the Pentagon’s Midwest base-closing study, denied suggestions that the camp’s closure was politically motivated.
“It may seem counterintuitive to close bases during wartime,” Haemer said. “But not a single member of the forward-line units operating in Iraq and Afghanistan trained at Camp Snoopy. Tens of thousands of them visited the park, but the fast-paced gaming environment of the Ultimate Zone has little or no bearing on squad-level combat in a desert environment, and maneuvering around the Kite-Eating Tree will do nothing to prepare a soldier for the arid scrub of the Afghani steppes.”
Haemer added that California’s Camp Snoopy at Knott’s Berry Farm is being kept open primarily due to the Red Baron Ride, which he described as “a real hoot.”
Got sick of reading the Rah, Rah USArmy News. Show nme one ounce of "liberal media" in this post.I still find it amazing how some of you are so deluded that you are actually spinning the posting of good news stories into a bad thing. Loth can make any political statement he wants about why these stories are not being run… certainly the left uses every negative story to bash the administration. This is a free country and just because you don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean we need to stop doing what we are doing… and actually by the ferocity in which you are taking this on, i’d say we are doing a fine job at getting some good things out there because it obviously bothers you guys deeply.
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
I still find it amazing how some of you are so deluded that you are actually spinning the posting of good news stories into a bad thing. Loth can make any political statement he wants about why these stories are not being run… certainly the left uses every negative story to bash the administration. This is a free country and just because you don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean we need to stop doing what we are doing… and actually by the ferocity in which you are taking this on, i’d say we are doing a fine job at getting some good things out there because it obviously bothers you guys deeply.
V[/quote]
Vegita, thank you for showing us the error of our ways. You are so profoundly wise to see through our tactics and always bring up such sound valid points. How right you are about our ferocity at expressing our evil plan to quell any wonderful news coming out of Iraq. We thought we could pull a quick one over our internet brethren, but under your watchful eye we are foiled yet again. That Dungeons and Dragons keeps you sharp doesn’t it!
Veg, are you on crack? Seriously? Step away from the bong!
How many times have those of a liberal persuasion been told that having the right to post your opinion doesn’t mean that anyone has to agree with it or that you won’t hear a countering or differing opinion.
So, sure, Loth can make up any old bullshit he wants about why those stories aren’t “news”. However, he might also be wrong… and some of us might laugh at him for going off the deep end about it.
What part of this isn’t par for the course?
Who has argued that Loth can’t post good news stories until the cows come home?
Are you creating a new conspiracy out of bong smoke and mirrors?
Is it okay abort misconceptions?
Bong smoke and mirrors… you’re freakin hilarious Vroom.
Vegita, I’m really starting to think you’re retarded. Really.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
hedo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
hedo wrote:
Perhaps you’ll pose a topic one day?
I have…but you knew that, right?
No great one…I didn’t that’s why I asked the question.
Most of your posts belittle others, defend something else you said, or mock the fact someone else has an opposing thought.
Good day.
You didn’t ask if I had ever posted one. Your “question” implied that I never had. You could call that belittling…but of course you are above all of that.
[/quote]
Prof X
You are trying to say something aren’t you?
It’s really not any fun to belittle you. What do you find belittling about being asked a question. I have not seen you post a topic. You may have , but I hav not seen it.
However I can see, where others have mentioned, that arguing with you is a collosal waste of time.
Your bias is too extreme, it makes discussion with you pointless.
Have a nice day.
I swear you guys just want to annoy me into submission. Well there you have succeded, I will not continue to repeat myelf nor do I think you will stop repeating yourselves. Till next time.
V
[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
Bong smoke and mirrors… you’re freakin hilarious Vroom.
Vegita, I’m really starting to think you’re retarded. Really. [/quote]
And this accomplishes what? you guys get to the point where I bury you every time and you have to resort to calling me a bongsmoker and a retard. You guys rule. I am so envious of your intellectual power. Oh well looks like it’s back to ignoring you guys again.
V