Does anyone know where I can find more info on the Poliquin diet? I did a search on T-Nation, but was unable to turn up much. I know he as an advocate of low-carb/high-protein diets, but I would like to learn what seperates his diet from the rest.
Thanks in advance.
[quote]MizzouDawg wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find more info on the Poliquin diet? I did a search on T-Nation, but was unable to turn up much. I know he as an advocate of low-carb/high-protein diets, but I would like to learn what seperates his diet from the rest.
Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Poliquin charges more!
5 Days low carbohydrates
2 Days high carbohydrates
1.5-2.5 grams protein per Lb body weight depending on goals.
That is the general diet he uses with most of his athletes. Its simple but very effective. One of my prior posts had more detail.
If you have further questions fire away.
[quote]BOSS wrote:
5 Days low carbohydrates
2 Days high carbohydrates
1.5-2.5 grams protein per Lb body weight depending on goals.
That is the general diet he uses with most of his athletes. Its simple but very effective. One of my prior posts had more detail.
If you have further questions fire away.[/quote]
A few questions:
Can you have fruit/veggies on the low carb day?
What type of carbs are you supposed consume on high carb days?
Do you remember the name of the prior thread?
Thanks for your help.
Do a search for David Boston and you should get right to it. We had a great thread on it a couple years back.
Try this thread, it explains the diet and workout that goes with it, if this what you were looking for.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=FCE47DECCA624224F6CBDDEEB76B47B3.ba13-1?id=11629
just sounds like bodyopus or rebound diet.
I know that Charles has said that he uses a low carb approach with approx 75% of his clients, carbs coming almost exclusively through greens. I read, too, that he has people abstain from carbs, even in post workout shakes until, they are 10% bodyfat or lower. His methods are always chaning it seems.
I can also tell you that he openly says his philosophies on diet are heavily influenced by Mauro DiPasquale and his books are easy to find on the web.
Personally, I’ve used Pasquale’s methods with great success.
For a brief while, I was trying what was probably the most insane but healthiest diet on the planet, inspired by one iteration of Polliquin’s diet.
CHO=1g/lbs bodyweight
Protein=2b/lbs bw
Fat=to fill out dietary needs.
The carbs must come entirely from greens. In a nutshell, this diet has you eating nothing but steak, peas, steak, green beans, steak, spinach, steak, broccoli, and fish oil. At that point in time, I think Polliquin reccommended a lots of omega three, like in the neighborhood 20-30 g/day, along with alpha lipoic acid frequently. Others–but I’m not sure Polliquin himself–claimed that this allowed for a near-steroidal nutrient partioning effect.
If I remember–it was a while ago and it felt pointless to log calories when each meal was a bag of peas and tough beef–I did alright on this. I felt great–lots of vitamins and fiber (enough fiber for a family of seven) and had consistent energy levels, and it helps kidney pH, too. The carbs aren’t low enough to lead to all-out depletion; I could usually make it through an hour with weights and an hour of judo without getting acetone breath and keto-stupid. I’d recommend carb-loading with this diet though.
You’ll notice it resemebles the T-dawg diet, which is probably more sane.
How is this diet “insane”? Any healthy diet is not insane.
[quote]nishur1 wrote:
For a brief while, I was trying what was probably the most insane but healthiest diet on the planet, inspired by one iteration of Polliquin’s diet.
CHO=1g/lbs bodyweight
Protein=2b/lbs bw
Fat=to fill out dietary needs.
The carbs must come entirely from greens. In a nutshell, this diet has you eating nothing but steak, peas, steak, green beans, steak, spinach, steak, broccoli, and fish oil. At that point in time, I think Polliquin reccommended a lots of omega three, like in the neighborhood 20-30 g/day, along with alpha lipoic acid frequently. Others–but I’m not sure Polliquin himself–claimed that this allowed for a near-steroidal nutrient partioning effect.
If I remember–it was a while ago and it felt pointless to log calories when each meal was a bag of peas and tough beef–I did alright on this. I felt great–lots of vitamins and fiber (enough fiber for a family of seven) and had consistent energy levels, and it helps kidney pH, too. The carbs aren’t low enough to lead to all-out depletion; I could usually make it through an hour with weights and an hour of judo without getting acetone breath and keto-stupid. I’d recommend carb-loading with this diet though.
You’ll notice it resemebles the T-dawg diet, which is probably more sane.[/quote]
Thanks for the reply. A few questions:
Can other protein sources replace steak i.e. chicken, salmon, eggs etc. I am all about eating red meat, but steak for every meal sounds like overkill.
Complex or Simple carbs on the carb loading day?
How much r-ALA should be taken?
Thanks.
Bomber, I meant that the diet was sound but just absurd–I was eating pound upon pound of veggies a day to get the carbs. You wanna stick close to a toilet.
Anyway, here’s the answers to the questions:
The steak thing was a joke. It just happened that there was one of those “Manager’s [rotten] Meat Specials” going on when I started the diet. Any fatty meat or protein source is good, from a k/cal viewpoint, fish would be best, if it weren’t all mercuried-up, because it’s mostly unsat. fats.
For carb days, I did both complex and simple carbs, eating mostly oatmeal, my roomies’ boxed cereals, and beer. Maybe try 80% CHO, 20% protein.
I didn’t use the ALA; it’s too rich for my blood. I’d assume 200-300 g w/ a post-workout shake–which may or may not have carbs. That’s really your choice. Whenever I used a keto-like diet, I would use 40g of protein, then either flax oil & cream or 25g of maltodextrin; I didn’t see either resulting in a big change in skinfolds.
One thing I might suggest, instead of the ALA, is two tablespoons apple cider vinegar with two or three meals.
ALA doesn’t seem to be the miracle nutrient partioner it once was hailed as, but I believe that it will increase insulin sensitivity and function as an insulin mimic. I, for one, notice a less severe “duh” feeling after a high insulemic meal if I use ALA.
Try searching for “poliquin diet” on the forums, there’ve been at least two other informative threads on it; it had a cult following.
Gotcha. But I actually like to eat like that. I’m just weird though.