[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Depends on how the land was acquired…[/quote]
You mean, like using force to claim something that belongs to no one person?
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If something doesn’t belong to individuals, who are you using force against?[/quote]
The next person to come upon it.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I is the term for an individual and an individual’s actions.
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Excellent. Now explain to me the irony? See, I haven’t argued that AREN’T made up of individuals. But no, I can’t replace the sales team with one individual. I need a sales team, but I can replace an individual.
And once more. Does an individual build the entire car for GM? [/quote]
No, neither does GM. Point?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Depends on how the land was acquired…[/quote]
You mean, like using force to claim something that belongs to no one person?
[/quote]
If something doesn’t belong to individuals, who are you using force against?[/quote]
The next person to come upon it.[/quote]
You mean if you are using a place and someone else comes and tries to take it from you? That is hardly using force to acquire it.
What noone wants to admit is that they simply want it that way. And, that they will use force (or have others use force) to make it so. Then there others who see a different way.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I is the term for an individual and an individual’s actions.
[/quote]
Excellent. Now explain to me the irony? See, I haven’t argued that AREN’T made up of individuals. But no, I can’t replace the sales team with one individual. I need a sales team, but I can replace an individual.
And once more. Does an individual build the entire car for GM? [/quote]
Because to make claims for the actions of a collective you are forced to use individual terms for an action taken.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, neither does GM. Point?[/quote]
No, I’m happy with that answer.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I is the term for an individual and an individual’s actions.
[/quote]
Excellent. Now explain to me the irony? See, I haven’t argued that AREN’T made up of individuals. But no, I can’t replace the sales team with one individual. I need a sales team, but I can replace an individual.
And once more. Does an individual build the entire car for GM? [/quote]
Because to make claims for the actions of a collective you are forced to use individual terms for an action taken.[/quote]
So? I use “they” too…
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, neither does GM. Point?[/quote]
No, I’m happy with that answer.[/quote]
An individual can though.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, neither does GM. Point?[/quote]
No, I’m happy with that answer.[/quote]
An individual can though. [/quote]
And so can a group.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I is the term for an individual and an individual’s actions.
[/quote]
Excellent. Now explain to me the irony? See, I haven’t argued that AREN’T made up of individuals. But no, I can’t replace the sales team with one individual. I need a sales team, but I can replace an individual.
And once more. Does an individual build the entire car for GM? [/quote]
Because to make claims for the actions of a collective you are forced to use individual terms for an action taken.[/quote]
So? I use “they” too…[/quote]
They is still a term for individual people.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, neither does GM. Point?[/quote]
No, I’m happy with that answer.[/quote]
An individual can though. [/quote]
And so can a group.[/quote]
No, it can not. The corporation GM can’t even tighten a bolt.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, neither does GM. Point?[/quote]
No, I’m happy with that answer.[/quote]
An individual can though. [/quote]
And so can a group.[/quote]
No, it can not. The corporation GM can’t even tighten a bolt.[/quote]
Yes, a group can. They do it all the time.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I is the term for an individual and an individual’s actions.
[/quote]
Excellent. Now explain to me the irony? See, I haven’t argued that AREN’T made up of individuals. But no, I can’t replace the sales team with one individual. I need a sales team, but I can replace an individual.
And once more. Does an individual build the entire car for GM? [/quote]
Because to make claims for the actions of a collective you are forced to use individual terms for an action taken.[/quote]
So? I use “they” too…[/quote]
They is still a term for individual people.[/quote]
For a selected group of individuals.
Can you show me a picture of GM doing something?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can you show me a picture of GM doing something?[/quote]
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gm+assembly+line&FORM=BIFD#
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can you show me a picture of GM doing something?[/quote]
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gm+assembly+line&FORM=BIFD#[/quote]
There isn’t GM in any of those pics. Could you get someone to frame GM IN the shot? Unless GM is smaller than I thought. Besides, to me, it looks like you are taking partial pictures of the UAW.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can you show me a picture of GM doing something?[/quote]
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gm+assembly+line&FORM=BIFD#[/quote]
There isn’t GM in any of those pics. Could you get someone to frame GM IN the shot? Unless GM is smaller than I thought. Besides, to me, it looks like you are taking partial pictures of the UAW.[/quote]
I don’t know, maybe it’s Ford building GM cars.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can you show me a picture of GM doing something?[/quote]
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gm+assembly+line&FORM=BIFD#[/quote]
There isn’t GM in any of those pics. Could you get someone to frame GM IN the shot? Unless GM is smaller than I thought. Besides, to me, it looks like you are taking partial pictures of the UAW.[/quote]
I don’t know,Maybe it’s Ford building GM cars.[/quote]
still waiting on a pic showing GM, the entity, doing something.
What I really like is that Sloth understands that a “line” is not real because it is just a theoretical mathematical concept but he does not understand that a “group” is also nothing more than theoretical a mathematical concept.
A group can only exist because of the individual things contained in the group.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What noone wants to admit is that they simply want it that way. And, that they will use force (or have others use force) to make it so. Then there others who see a different way.[/quote]
Practically all libertgarians would be perfectly happy if you had little communes with 100% taxation or no indivudual property at all.
If they leave us alone we might do business with them.
However, if they make us live in such a community, then we have a problem.