I’ve been using a supplement called ‘90+’ by Nutrisport for absolute years. Instead of buying fast digesting whey and slow digesting casein separately, this product is cheap and is 35% casein and 65% whey.
Recently I’ve stumbled across several sources which state the dangers of casein. I have no idea how flawed this research is, but they claim that it is only the ‘A1’ strain of casein rather than the ‘A2’. I have absolutely no idea how to find out whether the ‘isolated nudernatured micellar casein’ in the ingredient list of my Nutrisport 90+ is A1 or A2. Or even if this claim is worth paying heed to.
Could someone please clear up this up for me before I buy a new tub of either straight up whey or a whey/casein combo.
Colin Campbell (China Study guy) has done research on 5% vs 20% casein diets in rats, and shown that the high casein group developed/died from cancer more often. There’s a lot more to it and Denise Minger has blogged extensively on the subject if anyone cares to check it out.
If you have netflix check out the “forks over knives.” Great documentary mainly about the dangers of a diet high in casein and its direct links to cancer and other degenerative diseases as well.
[quote]stackinattackin wrote:
If you have netflix check out the “forks over knives.” Great documentary mainly about the dangers of a diet high in casein and its direct links to cancer and other degenerative diseases as well.[/quote]
sorry, your first line threw me off “great documentary”… more like horrible documentary that is more filled with opinion than fact. And facts/studies are presented as truth when there are multiple problems with them.
Denise Minger shreds this documentary minute by minute, though she is more forgiving than me on my review.
[quote]plateau wrote:
post the dangers of research if you want anyone else to review it[/quote]
Seems from the other posters that the dangers of casein seems to be well known.
I don’t really have the time to read these documentaries and studies, what’s the bottom line with regards to casein? Is it dangerous? What about the casein found in foods such as milk? Are certain types OK but not others?
[quote]plateau wrote:
post the dangers of research if you want anyone else to review it[/quote]
Seems from the other posters that the dangers of casein seems to be well known.
I don’t really have the time to read these documentaries and studies, what’s the bottom line with regards to casein? Is it dangerous? What about the casein found in foods such as milk? Are certain types OK but not others?
Thanks.[/quote]
If you don’t have the time to devote to coming to conclusions for yourself, then fuck it and just eat what you want. Seriously, how much TV do you watch per day? Play video games? How about devoting some of that to researching a little for yourself, or at least take a full fucking 30-mins to read the link I posted above
Its not the red meat. Its the unnatural fats we create from burning the shit out of muscle grown in an animal that eats a diet not intended for it. Also almost every seed oil consumers can by is rancid due to exposure to heat light and oxygen in processing and shipping. When the essential fat (cannot make in your body an therefore must get from food) ratio of these unhealthy and rancid omega 6 and 3’s to the good unrefined, non-rancid omega 6 and 3’s gets out of hand every cell in your body is out of balance.
Rancid, unnatural fats are twisted into a different shape then the original ‘healthy’ fat molecule they formed from and preform differently inside your cells. You are literally what you eat and the fats we consume are a major factor in today’s degenerative diseases that virtually didn’t exist in 1900.
[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
Its not the red meat. Its the unnatural fats we create from burning the shit out of muscle grown in an animal that eats a diet not intended for it. Also almost every seed oil consumers can by is rancid due to exposure to heat light and oxygen in processing and shipping. When the essential fat (cannot make in your body an therefore must get from food) ratio of these unhealthy and rancid omega 6 and 3’s to the good unrefined, non-rancid omega 6 and 3’s gets out of hand every cell in your body is out of balance.
Rancid, unnatural fats are twisted into a different shape then the original ‘healthy’ fat molecule they formed from and preform differently inside your cells. You are literally what you eat and the fats we consume are a major factor in today’s degenerative diseases that virtually didn’t exist in 1900.[/quote]
I really didn’t even have much of a problem with this post until the last line. Stop acting like you know certain aspects of diet definitely contribute to degenerative diseases. It’s beyond idiotic
[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
Its not the red meat. Its the unnatural fats we create from burning the shit out of muscle grown in an animal that eats a diet not intended for it. Also almost every seed oil consumers can by is rancid due to exposure to heat light and oxygen in processing and shipping. When the essential fat (cannot make in your body an therefore must get from food) ratio of these unhealthy and rancid omega 6 and 3’s to the good unrefined, non-rancid omega 6 and 3’s gets out of hand every cell in your body is out of balance.
Rancid, unnatural fats are twisted into a different shape then the original ‘healthy’ fat molecule they formed from and preform differently inside your cells. You are literally what you eat and the fats we consume are a major factor in today’s degenerative diseases that virtually didn’t exist in 1900.[/quote]
So what do you eat then? No meat? How do you grow?
[quote]ElevenMag wrote:
Its not the red meat. Its the unnatural fats we create from burning the shit out of muscle grown in an animal that eats a diet not intended for it. Also almost every seed oil consumers can by is rancid due to exposure to heat light and oxygen in processing and shipping. When the essential fat (cannot make in your body an therefore must get from food) ratio of these unhealthy and rancid omega 6 and 3’s to the good unrefined, non-rancid omega 6 and 3’s gets out of hand every cell in your body is out of balance.
Rancid, unnatural fats are twisted into a different shape then the original ‘healthy’ fat molecule they formed from and preform differently inside your cells. You are literally what you eat and the fats we consume are a major factor in today’s degenerative diseases that virtually didn’t exist in 1900.[/quote]
So what do you eat then? No meat? How do you grow?
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He didn’t say no meat. He said we shouldn’t eat meat that gets loaded up with corn feed and other things that cows don’t naturally eat, (raising the omega-6 content by as much at 10 fold) before slaughter. And that is completely true. Omega-6 fatty acids combined with excessive alcohol, fructose or lactose are the main agents of cell death and damage, liver disease, and atherosclerosis. They basically transport oxidative damage to blood vessels.
