Good god… 700mg tren weekly… Jesus… Nice tats though
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Not only this, 700mg tren is probably more damaging than say 2 grams of test! Combine that with stanozolol… I made a post showcasing how dangerous a combination of these two drugs in particular is… it’s one of the most dangerous AAS combos, Dr Thomas O Connoor (anabolic doc) states this particular combo is the one he sees heart disease develop and progress at “unprecedented rates”…
OP should seriously get an echocardiogram… chances are he will be fine as it was one cycle, but that’s serious abuse… I believe @Singhbuilder only runs 7-900mg/wk dosages of tren in the few weeks coming up before a comp
This is somewhat irrelevant, if you seriously want to make it past 40 years of age I’d strongly reconsider future cycles… and don’t do anything of this calibre again… you’ll probably lose a lot of gains coming off (given you’re base point, I’d assume you don’t know how to make gains naturally as you’ve yet to figure that out, so it’ll be trial and error)… if you’re tempted to, and thus continually run cycles of this calibre it’ll spell disaster in the long run. Should be mentioned some can get away with high dosages for prolonged periods of time… or even forever… but high dosages of TREN, I’m not sure if anyone can get away with that long term
Beyond infertility issues regarding neurotoxicity/cognitive stunting (REGARDLESS of age, can link data here), cardiotoxicity, nephrotoxicity, haematological alterations/induction of a hypercoagulable state, impaired glucose tolerance and more are risks factors you’re increasing upon like… ten fold +… I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I’d rather try smoking crack (though I wouldn’t) than take tren + winny… however if you’re aware of the risks, yet simply don’t care then… all the more power to you
Wow… I didn’t notice the title of this thread, you want to use clen… after all this?
OP will end up killing himself if he continues to use and think like this, no offence, that’s just my observation
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Not really… with that level of abuse one could probably LITERALLY sit on their ass… like go to gym once per week, eat a decent diet and recomp
I lost everything when I came off test completely for a long time. If I stick to a 125mg weekly and cycle twice a year I don’t think I’ll lose too much? Or do you disagree?
Depends on whether you keep rigorously training whilst on test only… if you cycle like this twice per year you’ll probably drop dead from myocardial infarction and/or lethal arrhythmia within the next 15-20 years… thats the problem, I don’t think you realise just how damaging cycles of this calibre are… I tried explaining this to you prior, you said “thanks for the info, I’ll drop the tren dose and the winny”… but it was advice that appeared to go in one ear and out the other… if you’re going to use THESE kinds of dosages for gods sake… at the very least look at the literature/case reports pertaining to what actually happens to people who use these kinds of dosages for prolonged periods of time
Granted if you don’t care… that’s fine, but know the risks my man… know the risks…
Here’s what I think unreal is saying… given your before photos, it says that you either A) didn’t train before cycles or B) don’t know how to properly train.
If it’s option B, your gains will all but disappear. If you had not been lifting ever before and just ran that much gear, that’s silly, but if you continue training PROPERLY you will maintain some of it. The big thing is diet and training, and the reason most will assume or bet that you’ll lose it, is due to how you looked prior. However, if you have your shit together then you should keep some certainly.
The health risk is the biggie. You’re taking monster amounts of juice. I’m bigger than you, and I’ve never run more than 500mg of injectables, you’re running more than double that, and Tren and winny of all things, which I personally won’t touch.
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Admittedly I’ve done some risky things in my younger days, but my god. I still like to make sure the ol’ ticker is working by the age of retirement.
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Well over double that (in terms of potency)… probably closer to, or even more than quadruple that… he’s running like… competitive bodybuilder type dosages just to get ‘some shredz bro’
can’t compare tren and test, they’re completely different animals
also @aaronca, I know you don’t see it… but you have a very good, aesthetically pleasing physique, we ALL see it
Is you’re username based off the film “everybody wants some”? It’s a fantastic film, a spiritual sequel of sorts to “Dazed and confused”… in both films… nothing really happens, it just follows the lives of a bunch of kids in the 1970s/1980s.
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I LOVE the film Dazed and Confused. Watched it many times in my youth. But nah, my username is from Family Guy.
I wish the music (from that era within the film) still pertained to what kids listen to today… I love old school rock n roll, esp for parties… but no, kids put on terrible mumble rap, generic pop music etc…
Check out “everybody wants some”, if you liked dazed and confused you’ll love this film… directed by the same guy, pretty much the same type of film, but set in the early 1980s during the induction of college life for a group of baseball players (in school on scholarship)
I think my favourite part (from dazed and confused) was when the one kid is with his parents, they’re leaving and he’s planning to have a kegger… but the guy delivering the kegs comes an hour and a half early, drops off the keg in front of the parents… Either that or when the stoner kid (forget his name) is rambling on (high thoughts) about cannabis in the colonial era, stating George Washington “grew fields of the shit”
I’ll check it out tonight for sure! And I totally agree on the music scene these days. It’s hard to find concerts around my area that aren’t some synthesized crap on a turntable or rapper yelling in my face. Ugh. I need to break out Fast Times At Ridgemont High, too.
I haven’t seen this one yet… but I’ll def check it out
I saw a decent band a few days ago, king gizzard and the lizard wizard (they played through the majority of their new album infest the rats nest)… predominantly thrash metal, it’s damn good
Very true in terms of potency and damage potential for sure. I appreciate it man, I just started cutting a bit, feeling smaller sucks, but the flatter my stomach feels, the more motivating it is. Just curious to see how it looks then I’ll try to gain some more size.
seeing results like THIS though, make it very tough not to want to run some megadose of Tren and see how big I could get 
You’d get fucking huge, but you’re already pretty damn tanky, lean too… and I agree for myself too, the temptation is def there… but is it really worth it? Unless you’re going to make a living off you’re physique and that alone I don’t think so
I’d rather still… be a teenager, do teenage things on occasion… go out trying to get laid etc… I don’t wish to sacrifice all that because I’m running megadoses of gear etc
Can I see a picture of you? Is there a thread?
You had visible abs to begin with, are you cutting to like 6-8%?
I’m just gonna cut 10lbs. Should be ~182/183 at 10% body fat. Family vacation this weekend will slow the cut down, but will get back to it late next week.
I totally get what you mean. I actually used to do modeling, but was too small for true fitness, but was too big for traditional type stuff. Zero desire to do that anymore, but I do train a bit on the side, so the better my physique, the easier to establish clients. Still not worth the risk. If I didn’t have kids, I’d be running this exact cycle right now. Haha.
Here’s a photo from last cycle. Left was week 13, right was after PCT. I probably lost 3 more pounds since that photo.
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Damn your bloody massive
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Honestly dude… I’m not sure if you’ve lost ANY lean mass between the two photos
Slight difference in the forearms is all I can perceivable see with the naked eye