quick question, i get milk that has 70% less lactose.
now what kind of carb is lactose? sugary? medium? slow?
also if it has 70% less lactose, whatever they use for the rest of the carbs in the processing what is that? sugary or slow or something in between?
im asking cause i drink 2-3 litres a day, cause well… squats and milk, and i love milk, and milk is good anyway whetheryou squat or not.
[quote]lordstorm88 wrote:
quick question, i get milk that has 70% less lactose.
now what kind of carb is lactose? sugary? medium? slow?
also if it has 70% less lactose, whatever they use for the rest of the carbs in the processing what is that? sugary or slow or something in between?
im asking cause i drink 2-3 litres a day, cause well… squats and milk, and i love milk, and milk is good anyway whetheryou squat or not.[/quote]
Lactose is a disaccharide composed of one glucose unit and a galactose unit. Ultimately, lactase will split the lactose into the aforementioned two sugars and they’ll be metabolized like any other dietary monosaccharide.
Dairy seems to have a high insulin load. If you’re doing the old “squats and milk” to gain mass, then that might not be a problem. Otherwise…
so its all sugars?
yeah, lactose is a sugar
ok thanks 
now im confused, how can it have a very low glycemic index if its a sugary carb?
It’s low GI because it is mixed with protein and fats. You don’t take lactose by itself.
Many people are alergic to lactose, that’s why low-lactose milk is available. Apparently the lactose is treated to break it down into it’s constiuent sugars. It’s nutritionally similar to normal milk.
Stu
The GI simply doesn’t matter. Milk causes quite a high insulin release. If you are drinking milk, then you are on an all out bulking diet. Funny, people go to great lengths to eat “clean carbs,” but then drink a bunch of a milk.
Not necessarily, milk PWO will give you the insulin spike you want, bulking or not.
Why is everybody afraid of insulin spikes outside of the workout?
I think it gets way blown out of proportion, it isnt like its going to kill you, is it?
I guess i dont get why most people are afraid of the dreaded carbs and insulin spike other than around workout time.
If it makes anybody feel better, i workout at 730 a.m. I ate a big bowl of kashi go lean crunch with skim at 730 p.m. Should i be afraid of getting fat now ? lol
[quote]bad bowtie wrote:
I ate a big bowl of kashi go lean crunch with skim at 730 p.m. Should i be afraid of getting fat now ? lol[/quote]
depends…how big is the bowl?
[quote]bad bowtie wrote:
If it makes anybody feel better, i workout at 730 a.m. I ate a big bowl of kashi go lean crunch with skim at 730 p.m. Should i be afraid of getting fat now ? lol[/quote]
Ya, you should. Unless you are a special case, try doing that on a high calorie diet, and you will pack on the pounds in no time - and not the good kind.
Oh it was good size, probly a good 2 cups of cereal and atleast a cup of milk lol.
I aint worried about gettin fat, i was just saying that people are afraid of carbs and insulin spikes outside of the workout window.
I like my carbs so i eat em up, seem to be ok for my body anyway.
quick question-
is the insulin response to whole milk similar to that of skim milk? i would think it isn’t nearly as high given the fat content of the whole milk…
I am also curious about the fats in milk causing a smaller type spike, skim vs 2% or whole milk?
“Dietary fat content alters insulin-mediated glucose metabolism in healthy men1,2,3”
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/3/554
It has to be a high-fat diet, though.
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
The GI simply doesn’t matter. Milk causes quite a high insulin release. If you are drinking milk, then you are on an all out bulking diet. Funny, people go to great lengths to eat “clean carbs,” but then drink a bunch of a milk. [/quote]
Yeah, I remember Thibs mentioning that the insulin response to milk is significant. Now that’s neither bad nor good, it just is what it is.
I don’t agree that milk is reserved for “all out bulking” though. If milk really is adversely affecting your physique, I would bet you dont’ train hard enough and/or frequently enough.
[quote]lordstorm88 wrote:
now im confused, how can it have a very low glycemic index if its a sugary carb?[/quote]
what do you mean “sugary carb”? a sugar is a type of carbohydrate.
[quote]bad bowtie wrote:
Why is everybody afraid of insulin spikes outside of the workout?
I think it gets way blown out of proportion, it isnt like its going to kill you, is it?
I guess i dont get why most people are afraid of the dreaded carbs and insulin spike other than around workout time.
If it makes anybody feel better, i workout at 730 a.m. I ate a big bowl of kashi go lean crunch with skim at 730 p.m. Should i be afraid of getting fat now ? lol[/quote]
you gotta remember insulin is the “storage hormone”. you have a lot of that floating around in your system regularly than your going to end up storing fat, glycogen, etc…
for example you eat a diet that would induce a insulin spike post workout it would be beneficial because the glycogen stores that were depleted during the workout would be restored.
But say you eat Mcdonalds 3 times today and didnt really get any exercise, than the insulin spike caused by this food is gonna lead your body to store all those excess calories as fat.
I think one of Dr. Berardi’s articles went into detail about the G.I. of various foods and its application to a diet.