Carbolin 19 Results

Nutrition
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Alphaboy wrote:

This guy couldve spent 150 bucks on steaks, chicken, fish and got better results.

Are you my son?

j/k with you

You have a point but only if he wasn’t already eating to his full capacity. If he was and if having to keep up with other responsabilities, one only has so much time to cook, chew and digest tons of protein from meat which if not properly absorbed won’t give you gains and will only slow you down for trainnig anyway, but I could be wrong.

Yes, you could be because I doubt most of the guys weighing under 200lbs are even eating as much as I do to maintain my body weight. I doubt the problem with most of them is that they are truly eating so much that they don’t have time to take care of other responsibilities. You make time.

Tons of protein? I could see getting enough protein being a problem for someone over 250lbs. For someone weighing under 200lbs, it should be easy enopugh to get that much from food alone with no added supplements.

I don’t know, but I have doubts as to the training intensity of someone before I label them a “hardgainer”. I very rarely see a guy truly busting his ass in the weight room as well as in the kitchen but who only shows fat gains as a result. While I am sure there are some out there like that, how is it they ALL claim to be on this website?[/quote]

i dont see how people don’t get enough protein. with my food logs i normally miss carbs but my protein is always over 2 g per pound. I guess its cause i love eating meat.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Yes, you could be because I doubt most of the guys weighing under 200lbs are even eating as much as I do to maintain my body weight. I doubt the problem with most of them is that they are truly eating so much that they don’t have time to take care of other responsibilities. You make time.

Tons of protein? I could see getting enough protein being a problem for someone over 250lbs. For someone weighing under 200lbs, it should be easy enopugh to get that much from food alone with no added supplements.

I don’t know, but I have doubts as to the training intensity of someone before I label them a “hardgainer”. I very rarely see a guy truly busting his ass in the weight room as well as in the kitchen but who only shows fat gains as a result. While I am sure there are some out there like that, how is it they ALL claim to be on this website?[/quote]

All that you said makes sense. My main point was : Isn’t the supplement supposed to facilitate protein absorbtion and speed up digestion?

If I train two hours after a solid meal I want to vomit, not to mention I burp the food throughout my work out.
But I’m a beginner and have a lot to learn.

Good point on intensity. Apart from the powerlifters there are very few people I see trainning with intensity so you cannot possibly even feel hungry for more meat if you are always trainning within your comfort zone.

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I am still astonished at this quantum machine…

Do tell us more or show us some links to this wonderous, cure-all creation.

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[quote]adguig wrote:
I am still astonished at this quantum machine…

Do tell us more or show us some links to this wonderous, cure-all creation.[/quote]

Thereis a link on the first post on this page. I can’t testify for the long distance issue, I never heard of it - but hey, that’s California…

I went on this treatment because I didn’t believe it and was going to prove my friend wrong so I went in highly sceptical and “willful” determined not to let this system get any information about me.

I have been using it for 5 years now and not only has it never been wrong (even when I was in denial) but I have never had to see a general practicioner since. Or take medicine.

I am frustrated in my trainning because I should have a year under my belt but I have always been getting injured and haven’t made much progress. This machine has helped me identify the injury with precision, treat it and recover faster from it.

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Have you actually READ that link?!? Methinks you’re on a serious placebo trick but whatever floats your boat. Try reading the red parts further down the page first of all.

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[quote]adguig wrote:
Have you actually READ that link?!? Methinks you’re on a serious placebo trick but whatever floats your boat. Try reading the red parts further down the page first of all.[/quote]

adguig,

Everything is placebo.

Fudamentally speaking there is nothing wrong with us - but that is another dimension, I won’t go there.

Just do some research, make up your mind for YOURSELF and take it OR leave it.

If you want the email of the practicioner I go to pm me and bombard her with questions.

I personaly do not believe I need Carbolin 19 BUT my circumnstances are such that my brain feels supported when I take it and with a strong mind I can master my domain. It could be Bastard Gu inside those pills but in almost every substance there is energy in it.

It’s about putting the energy back into my body, my system.

And it isn’t a cure all. Advertizing has a lot of hype, use your discretion. The common denominator in all form of supplementation, whether it is Carbolin 19, good sex, or quantum machine is YOU. aS LONG AS yOu are not getting screwd and believes you are benefiting from it IT, whatever it is, USUALLY WORKS.

That has been my experience.

The powerhouse is me. Unfortunately the system we live in doesn’t support or encourage true power (look at our role models, for God’s sake). Everything else is just placebo until I remember myself as a powerful creature again.

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[quote]adguig wrote:
Have you actually READ that link?!? Methinks you’re on a serious placebo trick but whatever floats your boat. Try reading the red parts further down the page first of all.[/quote]

I read the red parts.

Orthodox medicine kills a lot of people but that is OK becuse they are “licenced” to kill.

I don’t see the difference between a quack or a moo or an oinc, oinc to be honest with you.

Scientists are constantly changing their minds. I only trust my own.
Not to mention the motivation behind “proving” someone else’s achievement is wrong - the envy when a man who wasn’t part of their “uni” club discovered something, not perfect but useful. Who can you trust?

Yourself.

Or, like you said, “whatever floats your boat”.

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[quote]Trogdor wrote:
I tried Carbolin 19 for a few months myself, and I’m pretty sure that IF I could have eaten as much without it, I would have gained the same. It had a rather noticeable appetite enhancing effect, which I think is itself beneficial for those with difficulty taking in adequate cals.[/quote]

Really? I don’t think that was even a selling point for Biotest. If I try it I guess It’ll be when I’m bulking instead of dieting while trying to preserve LBM. Thanks for your input.

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I agree with Alpha F on this one for the reason that, when I try to answer the question about the Carbolin 19 results, I know I feel and perhaps think I look better and it is doing something. Can I prove it? Hell no. But it might be like a cascade effect in the mind. I feel better, I feel its working, so it “empowers” me to motivate in other areas and it all has a synergistic effect. Its comparable to being in the squat rack with a heavy weight, I know the safety racks are there, but when I call in a spotter, mentally I feel much better about it. Even thought they don’t do anything but stand there. The mind is such a powerful thing.

Hope that made any sense at all.

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I am almost too much in amazement to answer that post. Like you said, whatever floats your boat because I’m not going to change your opinion nor am I bothered about doing so.

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
Trogdor wrote:
I tried Carbolin 19 for a few months myself, and I’m pretty sure that IF I could have eaten as much without it, I would have gained the same. It had a rather noticeable appetite enhancing effect, which I think is itself beneficial for those with difficulty taking in adequate cals.

Really? I don’t think that was even a selling point for Biotest. If I try it I guess It’ll be when I’m bulking instead of dieting while trying to preserve LBM. Thanks for your input. [/quote]

I noticed this as well,biggest beneift i saw
I think it helps some but I don’t think I will order it again after my 3 month supply runs out

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Havent been in here for a while. Anyway, here is my commentary on my results.

Like I said, in 10 weeks I gained 4 pounds and stayed the same body fat. Which doesn’t sound too impressive initially, but if you extrapolate that out to over a year, it ends up being 21 pounds of weight gain with no body fat percentage increase.

I’ll take those gains. However, I still feel as though I have some things to learn in the gym and am currently trying to increase my intensity and doing HIIT cardio at night to hopefully offset the fat gains from my eating. Once I can dial up my intensity 100% and find the best program for me, maybe then Carbolin 19 will be in order again. But like I said…its prohibitively expensive.

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That’s awesome. A boomshock of righteous, informed, totally coherent awesomeness in the face of “Orthodox Medicine.”

Hey, Alpha F, I’ve been thinking about adding Cocoa Puffs to my supplement stack. Do you have any experience with this supp, and could you, if possible, give a succinct testimonial as to the efficacy of this product or lack thereof?

Thanks.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Everything is placebo.

Fudamentally speaking there is nothing wrong with us - but that is another dimension, I won’t go there.

If you want the email of the practicioner I go to pm me and bombard her with questions.

I personaly do not believe I need Carbolin 19 BUT my circumnstances are such that my brain feels supported when I take it and with a strong mind I can master my domain. It could be Bastard Gu inside those pills but in almost every substance there is energy in it.

It’s about putting the energy back into my body, my system.

And it isn’t a cure all. Advertizing has a lot of hype, use your discretion. The common denominator in all form of supplementation, whether it is Carbolin 19, good sex, or quantum machine is YOU. aS LONG AS yOu are not getting screwd and believes you are benefiting from it IT, whatever it is, USUALLY WORKS.

That has been my experience.

The powerhouse is me. Unfortunately the system we live in doesn’t support or encourage true power (look at our role models, for God’s sake). Everything else is just placebo until I remember myself as a powerful creature again.
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[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Havent been in here for a while. Anyway, here is my commentary on my results.

Like I said, in 10 weeks I gained 4 pounds and stayed the same body fat. Which doesn’t sound too impressive initially, but if you extrapolate that out to over a year, it ends up being 21 pounds of weight gain with no body fat percentage increase.

I’ll take those gains. However, I still feel as though I have some things to learn in the gym and am currently trying to increase my intensity and doing HIIT cardio at night to hopefully offset the fat gains from my eating. Once I can dial up my intensity 100% and find the best program for me, maybe then Carbolin 19 will be in order again. But like I said…its prohibitively expensive.
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Thanks man

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CT said he was going to do a case study of Carbolin 19 with his girlfriend Christianne as the sbuject.

I don’t recall him posting the results which doesn’t bode well considering the subject is very intune with her body.

I could be wrong though. Are those results out there somewhere guys?

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[quote]DTLV wrote:
That’s awesome. A boomshock of righteous, informed, totally coherent awesomeness in the face of “Orthodox Medicine.”

Hey, Alpha F, I’ve been thinking about adding Cocoa Puffs to my supplement stack. Do you have any experience with this supp, and could you, if possible, give a succinct testimonial as to the efficacy of this product or lack thereof?

Thanks.

[/quote]

Informative and coherent enough to hurt your “feelings” and make you overreact.

Cocoa Puffs will only further elevate your eostrogene levels. Try a man’s cereal.

Lava Oats with greazzily bears bits in it for the full “buffon” effect.

Doctor F, for you.

Hope that helps.

; )

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[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Havent been in here for a while. Anyway, here is my commentary on my results.

Like I said, in 10 weeks I gained 4 pounds and stayed the same body fat. Which doesn’t sound too impressive initially, but if you extrapolate that out to over a year, it ends up being 21 pounds of weight gain with no body fat percentage increase.

I’ll take those gains. However, I still feel as though I have some things to learn in the gym and am currently trying to increase my intensity and doing HIIT cardio at night to hopefully offset the fat gains from my eating. Once I can dial up my intensity 100% and find the best program for me, maybe then Carbolin 19 will be in order again. But like I said…its prohibitively expensive.
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I don’t think the extrapolation idea holds any water. That’s more like wishful thinking. One’s body may require different amounts of Carbolin 19 as mass increased and one’s system became accustomed to taking it.

Similar to the first gains one makes, it won’t continue and always tapers off. I doubt that you would gain 21lbs if you continued to take it for a year,then what 21lbs the following year as well, and so on? Highly unlikely. I know you didn’t say that but I’m just continuing that line of reasoning.

I think what happens with a lot of supplements is that people get the newest thing and say to themselves, “k I just spent this $ on this great supp, I’m really gonna apply mayself to get the best out of it” and voila, great gains. Why? because they get on top of their diet and really focus, I bet a lot of the progress would come without the magic pills. I know, I’ve done and said the same thing to myself, :).

Carbolin 19 as good as Anavar? Can’t see it, or this board would be flooded with tons of positive feedback.

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[quote]pbody03 wrote:
Lonnie123 wrote:
Havent been in here for a while. Anyway, here is my commentary on my results.

Like I said, in 10 weeks I gained 4 pounds and stayed the same body fat. Which doesn’t sound too impressive initially, but if you extrapolate that out to over a year, it ends up being 21 pounds of weight gain with no body fat percentage increase.

I’ll take those gains. However, I still feel as though I have some things to learn in the gym and am currently trying to increase my intensity and doing HIIT cardio at night to hopefully offset the fat gains from my eating. Once I can dial up my intensity 100% and find the best program for me, maybe then Carbolin 19 will be in order again. But like I said…its prohibitively expensive.

I don’t think the extrapolation idea holds any water. That’s more like wishful thinking. One’s body may require different amounts of Carbolin 19 as mass increased and one’s system became accustomed to taking it.

Similar to the first gains one makes, it won’t continue and always tapers off. I doubt that you would gain 21lbs if you continued to take it for a year,then what 21lbs the following year as well, and so on? Highly unlikely. I know you didn’t say that but I’m just continuing that line of reasoning.

I think what happens with a lot of supplements is that people get the newest thing and say to themselves, “k I just spent this $ on this great supp, I’m really gonna apply mayself to get the best out of it” and voila, great gains. Why? because they get on top of their diet and really focus, I bet a lot of the progress would come without the magic pills. I know, I’ve done and said the same thing to myself, :).

Carbolin 19 as good as Anavar? Can’t see it, or this board would be flooded with tons of positive feedback.[/quote]

Agreed, I believe there is too much money spent on these ‘miracle’ supplements when people should be more concerned on eating ‘food’ and working out harder than there used too. Don’t get me wrong because there are a few supplements that work, but all in all its down to the person and what works for them.

I know my supplement budget is low though my food bill is high. And from this my body weight is alot higher due to increase calories not supplement intake.

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True, And like I said I lost my Before Pics so I ended up chaning things a bit.

Who knows if the results would have stayed all year, I personally don’t have the money to find that out. It doesn’t seem likely, but it could have happened. If the only thing Carbolin 19 did was fend off fat gains on a bulk… That sounds like a winning supplement to me. As for losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time… I didnt expect it nor did it happen.

I wish Biotest would actually run studies on their supps before releasing them. I know there is a Colforsin study (only 1 I believe), but they did change the compound… Who knows what that did?

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Also, I am not really concerned with JUST gaining body weight. I did that before, it’s easy. The reason I “only” gained 4 pounds in 10 weeks is because I tend to add fat if I’m not careful with every aspect of my game. So I ate a tad bit over maintenece and took the supplement to see what would happen. I ended up gaining 4 pounds with not increase in bodyfat percentage…not too shabby. As stated before, If I can keep that up all year, thats 20 pounds of M-U-S-C-L-E gained, not just weight.

However, as I also said I am trying to up the intensity and am also trying to incorporate some “g-flux” ideas to see what those two things will do for me. I have a long way to go before I post anymore pictures, but stick around…I WILL get there.